Chris Kaman

crazykidd2k6 · Post #1 » by **crazykidd2k6** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:15 am

We should go after him he is such a perfect player for the players we are building around (Harris and YI) We should trade Carter for him or maybe brook lopez and a bunch of young Players

Post #2 » by **Rich Rane** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:19 am

Eh...I'm far from giving up on Brook. We're rebuilding. No way Vanderthorn trades young talent to put the team right in the middle of the pack at best.

crazykidd2k6 · Post #3 » by **crazykidd2k6** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:41 am

That's true but we are still going to need a Big that make us to a championship calibur team by 2010 I don't think Brook is Talented enough to be that person. If Lebron comes or whoever in 2010 we still wont have that team that will win it all I think Kaman will be a BIg Piece of us being a championshiop calibur team. Also he is not really old i think he is only 26. Plus If we get Carter in the deal We get rid of his huge contract

Post #4 » by **Rich Rane** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:50 am

It's been 6 games. That's nowhere near enough time to put judgment on a rookie. I understand that no big free agent would want to come here if they'll just be coming to the same situation as their old team, but our young talent this year and the high draft picks we'll receive until then will continue to develop pending Frank never plays any of them. I think the big free agents pick up their options in 2010. Carter gets his team option pulled in 2011 and we'll have the cap space to sign a free agent.

And as far as LeBron goes, we all know the story...No Brooklyn = No LeBron

Da big3 · Post #5 » by **Da big3** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:16 am

crazykidd2k6 wrote:That's true but we are still going to need a Big that make us to a championship calibur team by 2010 I don't think Brook is Talented enough to be that person. If Lebron comes or whoever in 2010 we still wont have that team that will win it all I think Kaman will be a BIg Piece of us being a championshiop calibur team. Also he is not really old i think he is only 26. Plus If we get Carter in the deal We get rid of his huge contract

i think brook has shown flashes of being kaman, and better already, now if u said this last year, i would have a hard time disagreein...

Preludepunk27 · Post #6 » by **Preludepunk27** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:45 am

Am I the only one that can't stand Kaman? My arguments about it hold no water, it's really personal preference. I just see him as a decent big man on a bad team. He'll be a Brian Cardinal in a few years in my opinion.

I'd rather roll the dice with what we got...only trading for someone I see as a legit talent.

Jersey Generals · Post #7 » by **Jersey Generals** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:46 am

Giving up on Brook Lopez? Are you serious? That's...that's an awful idea.

crazykidd2k6 · Post #8 » by **crazykidd2k6** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:14 am

Rich Rane wrote:It's been 6 games. That's nowhere near enough time to put judgment on a rookie. I understand that no big free agent would want to come here if they'll just be coming to the same situation as their old team, but our young talent this year and the high draft picks we'll receive until then will continue to develop pending Frank never plays any of them. I think the big free agents pick up their options in 2010. Carter gets his team option pulled in 2011 and we'll have the cap space to sign a free agent.

And as far as LeBron goes, we all know the story...No Brooklyn = No LeBron

I'm not saying Lopez will be a bad player I just think Kaman is the perfect fit for us in the center position on the situation we are in. I actually think offensively Brook will probably be better. However Kaman's Athleticsm and his activeness will just make our team so much more better than it already would be.

And it doesn't matter if it's lebron or whatever there are so many good players out there we are still probably going to get a star player if we just have the cap space.

http://www.realgm.com/src_freeagents/2010/

crazykidd2k6 · Post #9 » by **crazykidd2k6** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:19 am

Da big3 wrote:
crazykidd2k6 wrote:That's true but we are still going to need a Big that make us to a championship calibur team by 2010 I don't think Brook is Talented enough to be that person. If Lebron comes or whoever in 2010 we still wont have that team that will win it all I think Kaman will be a BIg Piece of us being a championshiop calibur team. Also he is not really old i think he is only 26. Plus If we get Carter in the deal We get rid of his huge contract

i think brook has shown flashes of being kaman, and better already, now if u said this last year, i would have a hard time disagreein...

No way Lopez would be better than Kaman. Kaman tops Lopez in every category accept on offensive post moves and i guess midrange shooting. However agility, speed, athleticsm, hands, activeness Kaman owns him.

crazykidd2k6 · Post #10 » by **crazykidd2k6** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:30 am

Preludepunk27 wrote:Am I the only one that can't stand Kaman? My arguments about it hold no water, it's really personal preference. I just see him as a decent big man on a bad team. He'll be a Brian Cardinal in a few years in my opinion.

I'd rather roll the dice with what we got...only trading for someone I see as a legit talent.

How do you not see Kaman as a legit talent didn't he play with elton brand few years back and still got a double double per game? Watch this youtube video of him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sk55SbX ... re=related

I know it's only highlight which and it doesn't mean really mean anything but atleast it shows how athletic he is. Like in the begining he crossed up Yao and did a reverse dunk against him shows alot from a 7 footer

crazykidd2k6 · Post #11 » by **crazykidd2k6** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:31 am

Jersey Generals wrote:Giving up on Brook Lopez? Are you serious? That's...that's an awful idea.

Not giving up upgrading to be a better team from the future

Preludepunk27 · Post #12 » by **Preludepunk27** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:54 am

crazykidd2k6 wrote:
Preludepunk27 wrote:Am I the only one that can't stand Kaman? My arguments about it hold no water, it's really personal preference. I just see him as a decent big man on a bad team. He'll be a Brian Cardinal in a few years in my opinion.

I'd rather roll the dice with what we got...only trading for someone I see as a legit talent.

How do you not see Kaman as a legit talent didn't he play with elton brand few years back and still got a double double per game? Watch this youtube video of him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sk55SbX ... re=related

I know it's only highlight which and it doesn't mean really mean anything but atleast it shows how athletic he is. Like in the begining he crossed up Yao and did a reverse dunk against him shows alot from a 7 footer

The only year he averages a double double was the year Brand was out with the achilles injury. With Brand, he never had better than 12 and 9. Boone can do that. Boone = Kaman, therefore, no need to trade any young talent for him.

SteveNets15 · Post #13 » by **SteveNets15** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:38 pm

Your crazy kid there's noway we give up on Brook this early.Thats like trading Dirk on draft night for robert trailer.3 years from now if brook hasn't shown any improvement then we might think about it. Why are u so big on kaman anyway?? he's only kris kaman.I'd rather have Kristic back.

S.I.C. GM · Post #14 » by **S.I.C. GM** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:55 pm

No need to trade Lopez for Kaman.

With a new coach Lopez will be better then Kaman. Lopez can be a center piece of a team. Kaman is just a center.

Post #15 » by **jerseyjac** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:13 pm

yeh I want Lopez...Kaman is better than Boone...but he's not really a piece I'm seeking for this team down the road...

Revolutionistt · Post #16 » by **Revolutionistt** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:03 pm

The Nets DO NOT need kaman. this team is too soft and so is kaman. we need some gritty players on this team to put some fear in the other team. the type of players we should be going after are sheed, stephen jackson, carlos boozer, even al harrington. i admit i dont like boozer and his child molester look, but i think he would fit well into this team and may be the type of star to attract a big time free agent come 2010 AND even help us this season to make the playoffs.

crazykidd2k6 · Post #17 » by **crazykidd2k6** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:48 pm

Preludepunk27 wrote:The only year he averages a double double was the year Brand was out with the achilles injury. With Brand, he never had better than 12 and 9. Boone can do that. Boone = Kaman, therefore, no need to trade any young talent for him.

Alright if you really want to be accurate he averaged 12.0 ppg and 9.6 rpg that's is basically a double double or if you want to be mathimathical he got at least 10 rebounds in about 75 games. Plus, in that year, He played with Brand that year which Brand Average 24.7 ppg and 10 rpg. BTW the Fact that he can average that much with a player that scores besically 25 and 10 means him averaging 15 and 13 last year was no fluke. You are comparing him to Josh Boone which he average 8.3 ppg and 7.8 rpg when he is the only legit big we had that year when he should average more. Basically, what i'm saying is your obviously underating Kaman by ALOT. Plus, Boone is a powerfoward and Kaman is a Legit Center. They are totally different on the way they play.

stevieboy wrote:Your crazy kid there's noway we give up on Brook this early.Thats like trading Dirk on draft night for robert trailer.3 years from now if brook hasn't shown any improvement then we might think about it. Why are u so big on kaman anyway?? he's only kris kaman.I'd rather have Kristic back.

That is probably the worst comparison I've ever seen. You really think Brook will have a high value 3 years when he did not prove anything from now that we can trade him for a legit talent that's proven? :lol:

I'm not big on Kaman I actually barely seen him play. I'm just not biased like half of the people here that are prejiduce on whatever you think of him. I just see his basketball skills and talent nothing else. Please don't even response to this because your just making yourself look like a fool and showing your ignorance to other people that read this.....

S.I.C. GM wrote:No need to trade Lopez for Kaman.

With a new coach Lopez will be better then Kaman. Lopez can be a center piece of a team. Kaman is just a center.

I 100% agree with you that Lopez can be a better center piece but the fact that we dont have an identity in this team and the fact that we are building around Harris and Yi means we need to build around them the perfect player around them that will perfectly compliment them to have an identity which leads to winning games and the championship.

jerseyjac wrote:yeh I want Lopez...Kaman is better than Boone...but he's not really a piece I'm seeking for this team down the road...

I think Boone is a good player he is a good player to compliment centers for his style of doing all the dirty work but, he is not a player that should be starting at the center position he doesn't have enough weight, height and power to guard against big centers. If he plays center he it should only be temporary.

Revolutionistt wrote:The Nets DO NOT need kaman. this team is too soft and so is kaman. we need some gritty players on this team to put some fear in the other team. the type of players we should be going after are sheed, stephen jackson, carlos boozer, even al harrington. i admit i dont like boozer and his child molester look, but i think he would fit well into this team and may be the type of star to attract a big time free agent come 2010 AND even help us this season to make the playoffs.

If your talking about players that are physical inside players that are athletic I 100% agree with you. I dont think Kaman is soft at all he is pretty phsysical that can score inside.

Preludepunk27 · Post #18 » by **Preludepunk27** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:21 pm

Only goofy tall white center I want on my team is Big Z. I'm sorry but I giggle every time I see his expressionless face. My friends and I have made up an entire life for him where we think he HATES playing basketball but he knows nothing else so he just keeps playing and hates life. What a badass.

Post #19 » by **jerseyjac** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:53 pm

Preludepunk27 wrote:Only goofy tall white center I want on my team is Big Z. I'm sorry but I giggle every time I see his expressionless face. My friends and I have made up an entire life for him where we think he HATES playing basketball but he knows nothing else so he just keeps playing and hates life. What a badass.

he actually has pyschological issues...actual mental disorders, and from what I remember reading, SI?, he was on medication for them or it...but I dont think thats why he makes faces or that he hates basketball...

Post #20 » by **jerseyjac** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:58 pm

crazykidd2k6 wrote:We should go after him he is such a perfect player for the players we are building around (Harris and YI) We should trade Carter for him or maybe brook lopez and a bunch of young Players

so Carter or our rooks for Kaman...let me say this much, the MAJORITY WILL disagree...dont try and convince...IB4TL :wink: