The reason why the Clippers keep losing is . . .

WCDYNASTY · Post #1 » by **WCDYNASTY** » Thu Dec 4, 2008 4:14 am

. . . their damn bench! They basically have the worse bench in the NBA . . .

C - Paul Davis
F - Brian Skinner
F - Ricky Davis
G - Mardy Collins
G - Mike Taylor

I'd like to see the Clippers pull a trade with the Chicago Bulls, Chris Kaman for Joakim Noah, Tyrus Thomas, Thabo Sefolosha, Michael Ruffin, Lindsey Hunter, and future 1st Round Pick . . . salaries match up exactly on the trade checker. Ruffin and Hunter would be included for salary purposes but bought out immediately after the trade. Now the Clippers bench would be as follows . . .

C - Joakim Noah
F - Tyrus Thomas
F - Ricky Davis
G - Thabo Sefolosha
G - Mike Taylor

This bench would allow starters to rest when needed as well as give the Clippers a boost as the Lakers great bench does for them.

DO IT MIKE!!!

mj_shoefanatic · Post #2 » by **mj_shoefanatic** » Thu Dec 4, 2008 4:26 am

This should be our 1st issue come Feb trade deadline.

btw nobody wants our garbage :noway:

Post #3 » by **thanumba2clippersfan** » Thu Dec 4, 2008 4:30 am

I already knew that our bench would be a problem once we made the trade from Randolph

WCDYNASTY · Post #4 » by **WCDYNASTY** » Thu Dec 4, 2008 4:39 am

mj_shoefanatic wrote:This should be our 1st issue come Feb trade deadline.

btw nobody wants our garbage

Chris Kaman is not garbage at all. He's definitely a top 10 center in the NBA.

GuyverX · Post #5 » by **GuyverX** » Thu Dec 4, 2008 4:48 am

Chris Kaman can get us more than those Bulls scrubs.

corgiBear8 · Post #6 » by **corgiBear8** » Thu Dec 4, 2008 4:50 am

You have to remember that Kaman is out. When he comes back that moves either Zach or Camby to the bench as one of them will be our 6th man.

Also, if Ricky comes back healthy he might regain his starting position. This would move EJ to the bench and provide a spark off the bench.

That would change the whole problem with the bench by itself. P Davis and Skinner are very good role players, we just need a SG/SF that can come off the bench and contribute (since we lost Cat).

JJ LoDuca · Post #7 » by **JJ LoDuca** » Thu Dec 4, 2008 4:54 am

corgiBear8 wrote:You have to remember that Kaman is out. When he comes back that moves either Zach or Camby to the bench as one of them will be our 6th man.

Also, if Ricky comes back healthy he might regain his starting position. This would move EJ to the bench and provide a spark off the bench.

Thats the key. We get two deeper on the bench as soon as these issues are addressed. Yes, the bench is weak, but I think it's only temporary. I move for Kaman off the bench, Z-Bo and Camby starting.

WCDYNASTY · Post #8 » by **WCDYNASTY** » Thu Dec 4, 2008 4:58 am

corgiBear8 wrote:You have to remember that Kaman is out. When he comes back that moves either Zach or Camby to the bench as one of them will be our 6th man.

Also, if Ricky comes back healthy he might regain his starting position. This would move EJ to the bench and provide a spark off the bench.

That would change the whole problem with the bench by itself. P Davis and Skinner are very good role players, we just need a SG/SF that can come off the bench and contribute (since we lost Cat).

Either Camby or Kaman have to go and my bet is on Kaman, especially since Camby's contract expires in 2 years.

Ricky won't regain his starting position, he has stunk badly so far this season. I'd have have Gordon as the starter with Ricky Davis off the bench, Gordon adds to the inexperience of the bench while Ricky would be great veteran.

C'mon lets be honest here, Paul Davis and Brian Skinner stink.

GuyverX · Post #9 » by **GuyverX** » Thu Dec 4, 2008 5:01 am

corgiBear8 wrote:Also, if Ricky comes back healthy he might regain his starting position. This would move EJ to the bench and provide a spark off the bench.

You've got to be kidding me. Ricky Davis taking Eric Gordon's spot? The only thing Ricky Davis is good for right now is retirement. He couldn't throw a rock in the ocean before. Eric Gordon has been shooting lights out and he's the future. This season is over as far as the playoffs are concerned so they need to give Gordon PT to get him ready for next season. Ricky Davis is done. He's done here after this season, he's likely done as a serious player in the NBA. I see him getting 5 pts a game as a journeyman even if he gets a job elsewhere. He'll come back and he'll play soon....he'll hopefully shoot above 40% from the field and play no defense as usual. This is Ricky Davis.

No wonder we signed him for next to nothing! I knew there had to be a reason. Ricky Davis and Jason Williams for dirt cheap = something fishy going on here.

JJ LoDuca · Post #10 » by **JJ LoDuca** » Thu Dec 4, 2008 5:05 am

Yeah, Ricky won't start ahead of EJ at any point this season, but I think he'll be okay off the bench. I don't think he'll get shipped off into NBA exile like Guyv said, I actually think he'll be better when he comes back. Make no mistake, I'm no Ricky fan, and I really wouldn't mind to see him bounce. But I've seen a lot of Ricky D over the years and I don't think he's gonna go out like this. And plus, he was so stinkin' bad before he went down, that almost anything will be better than what we got from him before.

mj_shoefanatic · Post #11 » by **mj_shoefanatic** » Thu Dec 4, 2008 5:15 am

WCDYNASTY wrote:
mj_shoefanatic wrote:This should be our 1st issue come Feb trade deadline.

btw nobody wants our garbage

Chris Kaman is not garbage at all. He's definitely a top 10 center in the NBA.

CK with that foot problem is deemed USELESS :sleep2:

illastrate · Post #12 » by **illastrate** » Thu Dec 4, 2008 5:25 am

corgiBear8 wrote:You have to remember that Kaman is out. When he comes back that moves either Zach or Camby to the bench as one of them will be our 6th man.

Kaman for 6th man of the year, cause there's no way in hell he should start over Z-Bo after 3 straight 20/10 games. Z-Bo = consistency, Kaveman = ADD. Go figure.

Also, if Ricky comes back healthy he might regain his starting position. This would move EJ to the bench and provide a spark off the bench.

If Dumbleavy opts to start Ricky over EJ, I'm gonna revoke my US Citizenship, move to Europe and become solely a soccer fan.

Post #13 » by **thanumba2clippersfan** » Thu Dec 4, 2008 5:28 am

I did mention before that our bench should be better with Ricky and Kaman

mj_shoefanatic · Post #14 » by **mj_shoefanatic** » Thu Dec 4, 2008 5:58 am

Ricky and Kaman coming off the bench playing limited minutes could be a plus f'sho.

GuyverX · Post #15 » by **GuyverX** » Thu Dec 4, 2008 6:01 am

This team is close to the worst in the league. How could them coming back hurt? Other than Gordon's minutes to gain experience...

mj_shoefanatic · Post #16 » by **mj_shoefanatic** » Thu Dec 4, 2008 6:03 am

Obviously my reasoning is based on a healthy Bricky and kaveman. :sigh:

scratch21 · Post #17 » by **scratch21** » Thu Dec 4, 2008 7:05 am

this is season is over.
dont we get the wolves pick and our pick is gonna be a lottery so we can build our bench off picks or trades.

ClipperDomination · Post #18 » by **ClipperDomination** » Thu Dec 4, 2008 7:11 am

Guys, Ricky D is useless. I just want to get that through your minds.

mattfish · Post #19 » by **mattfish** » Thu Dec 4, 2008 8:37 am

I just think it's funny Doneleavy kept on saying that he needed ZBo because of the lack of depth in the post and "in case" Kaman got hurt. All of a sudden Kaman gets "hurt" and is out a couple weeks. Seems fishy...

Post #20 » by **mkwest** » Thu Dec 4, 2008 8:51 am

The thing that is on my mind with the way that Ricky has been playing is that he has a player option next season. If he keeps playing like this, he'd be a damn fool to turn down $2.5M.