Salmons upset in Sac Town

[wdrummel]

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Salmons would be a massive upgrade mentally over Barbosa. I think he could spell Nash more effectively and fit in better with the half court offense. Not having to rely on hitting every other shot would increase his passing efficiency and he is not a bad in other facets.

I would pull that trigger in a heart beat.

[Wayne Kerr]

I as well would pull this fiction trigger... he also can play the point.

[wdrummel]

Here is the article..

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=11143

I dunno though... I cant tell if he wants to be the man, or if he can handle being just another piece to the big puzzle. I think even though he is doing much better this year he realizes that it is crap because they are losing and losing badly... He seems like he wants to win.

[Phoenix Suns]

Wouldn't be upset if the Suns did this trade but if Barbosa was given the same minutes as Salmons he could put up the same production, plus Barbosa's two years younger. The Suns would be better off looking to trade Barbosa for a true pg.

[wdrummel]

I as well would pull this fiction trigger... he also can play the point.

He can play one through three effectively. His defense is much better than any of our guards as well.

[wdrummel]

Wouldn't be upset if the Suns did this trade but if Barbosa was given the same minutes as Salmons he could put up the same production, plus Barbosa's two years younger. The Suns would be better off looking to trade Barbosa for a true pg.

Its not about points. We need all purpose in the place of Barbosa. Salmons can RUN THE POINT (playing pass first) so much better than Barbs, his defense on the ball is much better, furthermore he can shoot a high percentage if we need it. On this team he is so much more of what we need than Barbosa is that it isn't even funny.

Barbosa can score with minutes... But his decision making is abysmal and not far behind it is his defense. I think D'antoni's system has ruined Barbosa from embracing these intangibles.

[Phoenix Suns]

Wouldn't be upset if the Suns did this trade but if Barbosa was given the same minutes as Salmons he could put up the same production, plus Barbosa's two years younger. The Suns would be better off looking to trade Barbosa for a true pg.

Its not about points. We need all purpose in the place of Barbosa. Salmons can RUN THE POINT (playing pass first) so much better than Barbs, his defense on the ball is much better, furthermore he can shoot a high percentage if we need it. On this team he is so much more of what we need than Barbosa is that it isn't even funny.

Barbosa can score with minutes... But his decision making is abysmal and not far behind it is his defense. I think D'antoni's system has ruined Barbosa from embracing these intangibles.

As long as he can play the point sign me up than

[wdrummel]

DYANASTY!!! GET IN KERRS EAR NOWWWW! Throw in that 2nd rounder if you have to!

Pull those strings baby!

[NashtyNas]

Salmons cannot be a SG for us. Doesn't fill what we need. We don't need a slasher, we need a shooter, and Barbosa can do both well, (kinda).

[wdrummel]

Salmons shoots 40% from three and 48% overall. We have J Rich to slash and hit midrange and he already plays close to 40 minutes a game.

We do not need him to play SG except for spot minutes. The fact that he can distribute at point guard and defend other point guards alone makes him a better choice. Barbosa looks like a pinball in our half court offense and the other four on our team are just pegs for him to run off his defender. Salmons can run half court, slash, and still shoot a respectable clip from mid and three point range.

J Rich's addition makes it even easier to give up a player with Barbosa's skills for a solid player like Salmons.

[TASTIC]

Salmons>Barbosa everywhere except speed and 3s

The guy can play, and he can handle it with pressure. He's as close to JJ as you'll find out there and available, but half the price...

[Frank Lee]

I dont see the need for barbs in Sac w/ K Martin. I'd be surprised if Kerr-laid would be able to pull something off to get Salmons striaght up so a 3rd team would have to be involved.

Realistically, are there many teams that would want the Brazilian Blurb ? He's a poor mans Ben Gordon, and he's having a tough time getting a deal. A 1 dimensional SG isn't that hard to find. I am inclined to keep LB, and have him bust it hard on learning D. We have little else to offer so do you really expect this to happen ?

This lack of a decent back up PG is the egg on face that our front office may have to wear the rest of the season. I can't get excited over Salmons wanting out... after all, it was he who got God in his ear and started this whole PG-less mess.

[NashtyNas]

Salmons shoots 40% from three and 48% overall. We have J Rich to slash and hit midrange and he already plays close to 40 minutes a game.

We do not need him to play SG except for spot minutes. The fact that he can distribute at point guard and defend other point guards alone makes him a better choice. Barbosa looks like a pinball in our half court offense and the other four on our team are just pegs for him to run off his defender. Salmons can run half court, slash, and still shoot a respectable clip from mid and three point range.

J Rich's addition makes it even easier to give up a player with Barbosa's skills for a solid player like Salmons.

My question to you then, is how we are going to play FOUR guys at the SF spot...

Hill/Barnes/Dudley/Salmons...

Don't say Dudley plays PF, hes so pinner..

It could work, if we placed Barnes as the backup 2-Gaurd but I'd rather get a PG in return for Barbosa right now.

[Frank Lee]

oops...double post

[wdrummel]

Salmons could play PG every minute Nash is on the bench. Why is that rough to understand?

Although I agree that I don't see Sac giving up Salmons for anything close to Barbosa.

[lilfishi22]

I think teams with scoring issues ie Cats or Clips would like Barbs.

It would be nice to get a guy like Salmons. He's definitely an upgrade over Barbs as he has a much more balanced game. The guy can still shoot the 3, post up, slash and defend. He's not as exciting or as quick as Barbs but that guy can play. I remember last season when Artest was out and Salmons exploded. Proves with minutes he can ball with the best of them

My question to you then, is how we are going to play FOUR guys at the SF spot...

Hill/Barnes/Dudley/Salmons...

Don't say Dudley plays PF, hes so pinner..

It could work, if we placed Barnes as the backup 2-Gaurd but I'd rather get a PG in return for Barbosa right now.

As for a lineup of Hill/Barnes/Dudley/Salmons at the 3. Dudley won't play and Salmons can play the 1, 2, 3 with relative competence so I don't think it would be a problem. Remember we would be giving up Barbs for Salmons so only Rich would be playing the 2.

[TASTIC]

NY surely would want Barbosa...well, DA would, Donnie probably wouldn't though...

[lilfishi22]

^ Didn't Walsh say he has total confidence in D'Antoni and would give him whatever player he wants?

Maybe we could get a 3-team trade going since there's no one on the NY roster I'd really want. Chandler maybe.

[collidingNeurons]

^ Didn't Walsh say he has total confidence in D'Antoni and would give him whatever player he wants?

Maybe we could get a 3-team trade going since there's no one on the NY roster I'd really want. Chandler maybe.

Ny fans would hate this idea and i imagine the NY brass would too. The seem to think Chandler is destined to be a super star. I can't see it, but who am i to rain on a parade that's endured so many torrential down pours over the last few years.

[collidingNeurons]

part of me would be very amused at the idea of adding yet one more player complaining about not getting enough shots to a team full of "what about me types"... the Suns could become the new malcontent team of the decade.