Cleveland-New Orlans

[DowJones]

Cleveland Trades
-Ben Wallace (bought out/retire)
-Sasha Pavlovic (non-guaranteed contract)
-Wally Z (sign and trade for 1 year as a filler--to be bought out and returned to Cleveland)
-2010 1st round pick

New Orleans Trades
-Tyson Chandler
-James Posey
-Peja Stojakovic

New Orleans dumps MAJOR cash and Cleveland gets taller, deeper, and more athletic.

PG: Mo Williams
SG: Peja Stojakovic
SF: LeBron James
PF: Rasheed Wallace (signed to the MLE)
C: Tyson Chandler

Bench
-Daniel Gibson
-Delonte West
-James Posey
-Anderson Varejao
-Zydrunas Ilgauskas

[loserX]

I honestly kind of doubt the Cavs take on all that money...and I can't imagine that the Hornets will trade 3 big-minute rotation players for zero regardless of the savings. They still have to field a team.

[I am Ra]

^lol at Peja starting at the 2. Remove the pick from Cleveland and this still looks bad, i just don't know if they are willing to take on Peja's huge contract. I actually think this would work without Peja.

[spidythejoe]

Wow, the last time something screwed up New Orleans this bad they named it Katrina.

[nadiroo13]

New Orleans take this and run.
you eliminate their toxic contract of Peja willingly...scary.

[DowJones]

Money shouldn't be an issue with Cleveland right now. They have to win or else their entire franchise just walks out the door. And Cleveland had a pay-roll of about $90 million last year and the team still managed to break even. They decreased that pay-roll by about $20 million this year alone.

And I for one thing Peja would be a good fit. The man is still (arguably) the best 3-point shooter in the NBA. Combine that with his height (outstanding at 6-10) and the LeBron James factor (he will be getting AMAZING looks) and I could see him really doing well in Cleveland. People forget that from 2000 to 2008 he was a consistent 18-19 ppg type of player. Last year his production dropped as his minutes dropped due to injury. And his contract isn't THAT bad because it only has 2 years. At worst you bite the bullet for 1 year and next year he is a huge expiring contract.

[mcfly1204]

Our backcourt would get smoked night in and night out. I want nothing to do with Peja or his contract. I could go for Wallace/Sasha for Chandler/Posey though.

[DowJones]

Look, there are about 3 or 4 teams in the NBA that can beat us in a Best of 7 series. That is how you have to look at it. Those 3 or 4 teams are...

-Orlando
-Lakers
-Boston
-Denver/San Antonio

Now my question is how many of those teams could take advantage of Peja's problems on defense?

1. Denver can't. Just stick Peja on Jones, JR Smith, etc and the problem is solved.

2. San Antonio can't. Just stick Peja on Bowen, Finley, MasonJr, etc.

3. Orlando can't. Just stick him on Lee or even Peitrus.

4. Boston might be able to but Ray Allen is getting old and Peja's height would really bother Allen's outside shot. I don't think Allen can take Peja to the hoop.

5. LA can't. Just stick Peja on Ariza and you are good.

On top of all that you have 2 excellent wing defenders off the bench (Posey and West) to give support. So the defensive argument is not a good one, imo.

[Westfo3]

I'd rather do wallace and 30 for chandler and posey


IDK why some dumbasses keep saying wallace and sasha for Posey and Chandler that only hurts the cavs and NOH's

Cavs lose a good trade value in sasha and NOH's have to pay 1.5 million for sasha which isn't needed to make the trade work on the trade machine.

This mans we can use Sasha and Hickson to do a S&T for a player like josh childress and use the MLE on sheed


PG Mo, West, Gibson
SG Josh, West, TK
SF Lebron, Posey, Josh
PF Sheed, Andy, Jackson
C Chandler, Z, Sheed

Thats if Josh wants to come back and play in the NBA.. and Cavs would have to give up something like Hickson in a S&T for Sheed or Josh....

Cavs get a younger center, scoring PF, moves west to the 6st man role and has the best backup center in the NBA in Z and match up with Boston, Magic and Lakers better with size.

[Tim Lehrbach]

If LeBron wants the workload of having to play guard on defense, this could work, but as with the Brand/Dalembert idea, I think this runs too great a risk of going horribly wrong for the Cavs.

[mcfly1204]

Look, there are about 3 or 4 teams in the NBA that can beat us in a Best of 7 series. That is how you have to look at it. Those 3 or 4 teams are...

-Orlando
-Lakers
-Boston
-Denver/San Antonio

Now my question is how many of those teams could take advantage of Peja's problems on defense?

1. Denver can't. Just stick Peja on Jones, JR Smith, etc and the problem is solved.

2. San Antonio can't. Just stick Peja on Bowen, Finley, MasonJr, etc.

3. Orlando can't. Just stick him on Lee or even Peitrus.

4. Boston might be able to but Ray Allen is getting old and Peja's height would really bother Allen's outside shot. I don't think Allen can take Peja to the hoop.

5. LA can't. Just stick Peja on Ariza and you are good.

On top of all that you have 2 excellent wing defenders off the bench (Posey and West) to give support. So the defensive argument is not a good one, imo.

LOL at Peja guarding JR Smith, Ginobli (who you did not list), Lee, Pietrus, or Ariza.

[DowJones]

Do you think these teams are going to isolate their 4th or 5th options all game in order to take advantage of Peja's defense? Hell no. What is Courtney Lee, Michael Pietrus, Trevor Ariza, or JR Smith going to do 1 on 1 against Peja and why would those teams take the ball out of the hands of Kobe, Billups, Melo, Hedo, Howard, Lewis, etc?

I didn't forget about Manu either. First of all he is a 6th man, so when he comes in the game you can substitute James Posey or Delonte West in off the bench. Secondly Cleveland could throw Lebron on Manu if they had to.

It isn't hard at all to hide one poor defender if your overall team defense is solid. Courtney Lee isn't exactly a great defender yet the Magic did pretty good w ith a combination of him and Hedo.

[Westfo3]

Do you think these teams are going to isolate their 4th or 5th options all game in order to take advantage of Peja's defense? Hell no. What is Courtney Lee, Michael Pietrus, Trevor Ariza, or JR Smith going to do 1 on 1 against Peja and why would those teams take the ball out of the hands of Kobe, Billups, Melo, Hedo, Howard, Lewis, etc?

I didn't forget about Manu either. First of all he is a 6th man, so when he comes in the game you can substitute James Posey or Delonte West in off the bench. Secondly Cleveland could throw Lebron on Manu if they had to.

It isn't hard at all to hide one poor defender if your overall team defense is solid. Courtney Lee isn't exactly a great defender yet the Magic did pretty good w ith a combination of him and Hedo.

warning sent for personal attack

[tidho]

Money shouldn't be an issue with Cleveland right now. They have to win or else their entire franchise just walks out the door...

lmao, LeBron isn't going anywhere.
They need to do what they've been doing...add talent without screwing up their cap. I can definately see a Chandler/Wallace deal worked out but beyond that Cleveland isn't going to take on that kind of salary.

[RevMan26]

Do you think these teams are going to isolate their 4th or 5th options all game in order to take advantage of Peja's defense? Hell no. What is Courtney Lee, Michael Pietrus, Trevor Ariza, or JR Smith going to do 1 on 1 against Peja and why would those teams take the ball out of the hands of Kobe, Billups, Melo, Hedo, Howard, Lewis, etc?

I didn't forget about Manu either. First of all he is a 6th man, so when he comes in the game you can substitute James Posey or Delonte West in off the bench. Secondly Cleveland could throw Lebron on Manu if they had to.

It isn't hard at all to hide one poor defender if your overall team defense is solid. Courtney Lee isn't exactly a great defender yet the Magic did pretty good w ith a combination of him and Hedo.

warning sent for personal attack

You're going to send a warning on him when prior in this thread, you labeled some people around here "dumbasses"?

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IDK why some dumbasses keep saying wallace and sasha for Posey and Chandler that only hurts the cavs and NOH's

[hornets686]

i like

[eyejayem]

I kind of like that westfo3 idea. I may do a deal for Childress to play the two and let him battle West for it and still go for Posey and Chandler plus try and sign Sheed or CV. Resign AV. That makes the team 10 deep.