LA and NY part deux

[warren weel im]

Lakers and Knicks deal once more.

Ammo + Farmar to NY.

Jared Jeffries to LA.

The question becomes: what does NY add?

[I am Ra]

a second round pick? or a heavily protectd 2012 first that becomes a second. Thats the most we can add.

[qclakers]

LA is looking to cut salary, not add it. Jeffries would never get on the floor. Waste for LA.

[toffeemonster]

If Ariza and Odom are back, i dont see how Jeffries gets any minutes.

there is no need for LA to do this.

[dockingsched]

expiring plus farmar for jeffries? the value and the fit sucks for the lakers.

[daddyfivestar]

LA is looking to cut salary, not add it. Jeffries would never get on the floor. Waste for LA.

check me if im wrong sandy but last time i looked 6.4 was less than 7.2.
this would cut 09-10 salary, which is what LA is looking to do in order to maximize their FA signing options.

agree with all the comments about jj not getting pt or being worth it (obviously he'd be the 6th forward after all), but from a $ perspective it accomplishes the goal of making 09-10 room (and don't give a hoot about 10-11 salary at this point) because if there is no cutting NOW there's no Ariza/LO/Brown back with the Lakers.

don't like the deal but don't get why some say it doesn't help financially right now. edit- but I do like the Alston one thrown out by NJ fan much more.

[dockingsched]

there is no way u can look at the lakers financial situation and just look at next yr. they aren't signing ariza/odom to one yr deals.

[daddyfivestar]

I can look at the 09-10 only because I want both back (all 3 actually), but I just don't see Buss paying 90-95m since the Lakers are his primary stream of income - he doesn't have many real estate holdings, or a TV station, or product line of any kind to fall back on - and it employs his entire family so it's their only stream of income as well, and with AEG's% and Magic's%, that pie gets sliced up pretty fast.
They have to keep moving out 09-10 payroll THIS SUMMER to get LO and Ariza back.. This is what the entire league is hoping doesn't happen and the only way to make it happen is to save 09-10 dollars by taking on future dollars with some combo of Ammo, Farmar, Vujacic out. (I just do not see Luke being moved even those many LA fans constantly whine about it, he's Phil's glue guy).

Again, I don't want Jeffries at all, but any move to save $$ this summer by exiting those three salaries of 12.21 mil will help. I like several other options thrown out on the boards though to get to where the Lakers need to get $$ wise (like ones with expirings, Alston, QRich, Ridnour, but that may not be what is avail in trade negotiations).

Core- Kobe, Pau, Bynum, Fisher, Luke = 61.14 m
Keepers- Odom, Ariza, Brown, Powell = 16.46 m
= that is 77.6 for the Core 9

Fillers (roster or trade)- Mbenga, Elonu, Yue = 2.18 m
Moveable asset - Farmar 1.95 m
Just move- Morrison, Vujacic = 10.26 m

Something has to give, some sort of 2 for 1 out with $$ savings.

[moocow007]

Yeah this really doesn't seem to make sense for the Lakers. You'd perhaps do it if money wasn't an issue long term and if you had a need at the position and skillset that Jeffries brings. Don't think either is satisfied here if the Lakers bring back Odom and Ariza.

[qclakers]

I can look at the 09-10 only because I want both back (all 3 actually), but I just don't see Buss paying 90-95m since the Lakers are his primary stream of income - he doesn't have many real estate holdings, or a TV station, or product line of any kind to fall back on - and it employs his entire family so it's their only stream of income as well, and with AEG's% and Magic's%, that pie gets sliced up pretty fast.
They have to keep moving out 09-10 payroll THIS SUMMER to get LO and Ariza back.. This is what the entire league is hoping doesn't happen and the only way to make it happen is to save 09-10 dollars by taking on future dollars with some combo of Ammo, Farmar, Vujacic out. (I just do not see Luke being moved even those many LA fans constantly whine about it, he's Phil's glue guy).

Again, I don't want Jeffries at all, but any move to save $$ this summer by exiting those three salaries of 12.21 mil will help. I like several other options thrown out on the boards though to get to where the Lakers need to get $$ wise (like ones with expirings, Alston, QRich, Ridnour, but that may not be what is avail in trade negotiations).

Core- Kobe, Pau, Bynum, Fisher, Luke = 61.14 m
Keepers- Odom, Ariza, Brown, Powell = 16.46 m
= that is 77.6 for the Core 9

Fillers (roster or trade)- Mbenga, Elonu, Yue = 2.18 m
Moveable asset - Farmar 1.95 m
Just move- Morrison, Vujacic = 10.26 m

Something has to give, some sort of 2 for 1 out with $$ savings.

I agree wholeheartedly. But you said it yourself that there are WAY better options out there.

[dockingsched]

I can look at the 09-10 only because I want both back (all 3 actually), but I just don't see Buss paying 90-95m since the Lakers are his primary stream of income - he doesn't have many real estate holdings, or a TV station, or product line of any kind to fall back on - and it employs his entire family so it's their only stream of income as well, and with AEG's% and Magic's%, that pie gets sliced up pretty fast.
They have to keep moving out 09-10 payroll THIS SUMMER to get LO and Ariza back.. This is what the entire league is hoping doesn't happen and the only way to make it happen is to save 09-10 dollars by taking on future dollars with some combo of Ammo, Farmar, Vujacic out. (I just do not see Luke being moved even those many LA fans constantly whine about it, he's Phil's glue guy).

Again, I don't want Jeffries at all, but any move to save $$ this summer by exiting those three salaries of 12.21 mil will help. I like several other options thrown out on the boards though to get to where the Lakers need to get $$ wise (like ones with expirings, Alston, QRich, Ridnour, but that may not be what is avail in trade negotiations)....

how much is this saving this summer? how much will it cost next summer?

[daddyfivestar]

question 1- don't care about next summer at this moment as i've said multiple times. only care about getting as much money clear right now to retain odom, ariza, brown, saving in this case more than sun yue is schedule to make all next year. question 2- http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... knicks.jsp
depending on what happens with farmar's final year will depend the ultimate costs
i have an idea, lets continue with the "but what about 2010" questioning by you and "i'm only concerned with 2009" response by me for about 100 posts to boost our post count, ok.

[Jajwanda]

That's ridiculous. Buss isn't so short-sighted that he'll screw himself next year to save a buck this year.