Rockets and Bobcats trade offer

[wadero]

Saw this on Bobcats forum wanted to get everyones input.
Bobcats get
Incoming Players
Brian Cook
6-9 PF from Illinois
3.0 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.2 apg in 6.9 minutes
Tracy McGrady
6-8 SG / SF from Mount Zion Christian Academy (HS)
15.6 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 5.0 apg in 33.8 minutes

Rockets get
Outgoing Players
Vladimir Radmanovic
6-10 PF / SF from Serbia-Montenegro (Foreign)
5.9 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 0.8 apg in 16.8 minutes
Nazr Mohammed
6-10 C from Kentucky
2.6 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.2 apg in 8.5 minutes
Emeka Okafor
6-10 PF / C from Connecticut
13.2 ppg, 10.1 rpg, 0.7 apg in 32.8 minutes

Would we do this?

[rocketsballin]

this trade would secure houston a playoff spot next season. it would be up to the back court and wing players if it happens. cuz the frontcourt is already proven what they can do.

[Mr. E]

As loathe as I am to take on too much salary past this year I'd have to seriously consider this. I think that in our system Okafor would thrive.

[RoxFan08]

I don't know what draws people to Okafor. He's not capable of playing center, and he just isn't very good. But of course he's paid like he is.

I'd much rather let Tmac expire and chase someone who's worth Emeka's contract.

[Fred Williamson]

But like I said on the bobcats board, you need to swap Cook for Landry or Hayes, because we need a good backup PF.

I don't know what draws people to Okafor. He's not capable of playing center, and he just isn't very good. But of course he's paid like he is.

I'd much rather let Tmac expire and chase someone who's worth Emeka's contract.

lol. He's our starting center and also able to play PF. And what do you mean, he's not very good?
He is one the few guys in the NBA who will get you 14/11 every single night with very good inside defense. He's without a doubt one the best defenders in the NBA and combined with Yao, you will have the best frontcourt in the NBA.

[barnsleyman123]

Don't get me wrong it is a good trade offer but I just think that the Rockets are better suited to see what McGrady can do this season and let him expire if they don't like what they see.

[MaxRider]

very reasonable trade
problem is okafor is often injured as well

nvm didn't realize okafor played all 82 games in the past 2 years

[KiDdFrESh]

Tempting but no thanks. If JVG was our coach then I'd be all for it but I do not see Okafor adapting to RA system very well. That is a lot of salary and 3 guaranteed contracts that we would have to keep for 2 expiring ones. Not worth it imo.

Here's a cheaper alternative.

Stand pat with what we got. Sign Fabrico Oberto. We could probably get him for cheap considering that SAS is the front runner for McDyess. And I think if Matt Barnes could be had for the minimum he would be a good addtion off the bench.

PG: Brooks, Lowry
SG: Battier, White, Jackson
C: Hayes, Oberto, Dorsey
SF: Ariza, Barnes
PF: Scola, Landry

IR: Cook, McGrady, Yao

BOOM ! Sign Jackson, Oberto, & Barnes unleash James White and call it an off-season!

[wadero]

We cant go into next season with Hayes as our starter. We are going to have to get a center with some size and it will be a chris Mihm or a Robert swift type free agent we need some size at the 5. Okafor being a local kid would probably play out of his mind if we able to acquire him.

[texasholdem]

But like I said on the bobcats board, you need to swap Cook for Landry or Hayes, because we need a good backup PF.
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Landry can't be traded to Charlotte because of the whole free agent signing thing.

[BaYBaller]

Very tempting offer. If that was in fact on the table the question would be what kind of FAs does HOU realistically expect to secure in 2010?

[Ribalding]

But like I said on the bobcats board, you need to swap Cook for Landry or Hayes, because we need a good backup PF.
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Landry can't be traded to Charlotte because of the whole free agent signing thing.

Hayes can. Bu bye, Chuckwagon. Have fun.

I'm reticent about the size/length of the incoming contracts. HOWEVAH, that's not the big sticking point, as I see it:

Next summer, T-Mac's expiring isn't going to be "worth" what it was before the new cap figures were released. You have to think the Bobcats front office would realize this and be less than enthused about taking on an expiring contract that is only worth a portion of what it says it's worth.

I would be.

[matt6715]

Just happened to come into this team forum and saw this trade, and I think it works great for you guys. He can play center while yao is out and easily make the transition to his more natural power forward spot when yao comes back. He is a solid rebounder, post defender, and inside scorer. Plus, he is young enough that he fits into your long-term plans. If this trade was offered I feel like you would have to pull the trigger.

[texasholdem]

I don't know what draws people to Okafor. He's not capable of playing center, and he just isn't very good. But of course he's paid like he is.

I'd much rather let Tmac expire and chase someone who's worth Emeka's contract.

he's the same size as dwight howard so why can't he play center? he has for charlotte since they got rid of brezec. he's averaged a double double every season he's played.

[Munchlaxatives]

I had no idea Nazr Mohammed was still in the league. Same with Radmanovic until LA traded him. Any chance you want Moochie Norris in a sign-and-trade?

But like I said on the bobcats board, you need to swap Cook for Landry or Hayes, because we need a good backup PF.
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Landry can't be traded to Charlotte because of the whole free agent signing thing.

I have no idea what that is, care to explain?

[texasholdem]

we matched charlotte's offer for landry last sept 25th so he can't be traded there until sept 25 this year

[michaelc204]

Why would Charlotte do this is a better question. Whos going to play center? DeSagana Diop for the full 48 minutes? A trade takes 2 teams, not just one robbing the other of all of its assets.

[moofs]

Why would Charlotte do this is a better question. Whos going to play center? DeSagana Diop for the full 48 minutes? A trade takes 2 teams, not just one robbing the other of all of its assets.

Salary cap relief for a financially struggling franchise that only costs them a 27yo center who's overpaid by at least 6m/yr for 5 years, a backup C who's signed for 2 years at about 3m too much, and a backup PF who's signed for 2 years at about 2m too much is not a bad deal for you guys.

That said, I don't want Okafor at our C spot for 5 years. It's not that he's a bad player, it's that he's WELL overpaid. 15m in 2013-2014 at age 32, and acquiring him would probably signal the end of Yao? I don't think the franchise is ready to do that yet. We'd be building a star-free offense. See my response to Ribalding in the "Shot Creation" thread for why we wouldn't do that. viewtopic.php?f=16&t=924838#p20138526 We may be ad-hoc'ing one this season out of necessity, but I wouldn't expect we'd lock ourselves into it for 5 years.

For the Bobcats, as long as you're building around him, you're going to lose. He doesn't provide enough for the cap space he takes up, and you guys can't spend enough to compensate for that fact. You can state that you don't have a C without him, but I'd ask what he really provides as-is. http://hoopshype.com/salaries/charlotte.htm Your team's top 7 players ALL have HORRIBLE contracts. Wallace's and Okafor's are the closest to being "fairly priced", and that's a very bad thing. The sooner you can jettison Jordan's best imitation of Isaiah and start over, the better. When your team just won 35 games and is in a stage where it's likely to peak within 2 years without massive improvements, which you won't able to get because of your financial situation, you need to step back and be objective.

In short, you're our team during the Francis years.

p.s. Why is Jordan not included in the Isaiah/Wallace/Ainge/McHale Atrocious GM conversations? He's every bit as bad. My guess is that he's given passes based on it being an expansion team in a small market.

[DraftBoy10]

The offer isn't bad, it's a quality offer. It's just not the route I think we'd wish to go, honestly.

[Ribalding]

The offer isn't bad, it's a quality offer. It's just not the route I think we'd wish to go, honestly.

Mr. President? Is that you?