Deshawn Stevenson

Nuggets18 · Post #1 » by **Nuggets18** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 5:07 pm

What was the reason to Deshawns terrible shooting year?

The lack of Gill?
Injuries?

Feel free to delete this in a day or so, just wondered

Optms · Post #2 » by **Optms** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 5:13 pm

Here's a thought; he's just not that good of a shooter to begin with. Injuries, along playing without a guy who'd give him more open looks (Arenas) might have contributed some too.

rockymac52 · Post #3 » by **rockymac52** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 5:13 pm

mostly likely a combination of both. he tried to play through a bad back injury, but it just wasn't working for him. if you think about it, a back injury would really mess with your shot, so if you're an optimist you could assume deshawn comes back healthy and finds his stroke again, but realistically he'll be stuck on the end of the bench or another team. playing next to gil helped him a lot, so that probably hurt him last season as well

Post #4 » by **LyricalRico** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 5:51 pm

Yeah, he had knee and back issues last year. When healthy he can make open 3's and be a very pesky defender. Even at best, though, he's only a below average NBA shooting guard. A capable backup and stopgap starter but nothing more.

Nuggets18 · Post #5 » by **Nuggets18** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 6:06 pm

Do you see him getting any PT next year, with your new players?

What i would like would be a Deshaw for Steven Hunter deal.

Hunter is an 3.7 mill expiring

And i think he would be good in denver with billups to replace dahntay jones

Post #6 » by **LyricalRico** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 6:10 pm

Nuggets18 wrote:What i would like would be a Deshaw for Steven Hunter deal.

Oh man, I'd take that in a heartbeat. I can actually see him fitting in with Denver if they don't re-up Jones. He's probably about equal with Jones defensively but he gives you the added advantage of being able to make open shots. He can also play point in a pinch.

Brenice · Post #7 » by **Brenice** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 6:26 pm

DeShawn is basically self check as far as NBA 2-guards are concerned. The #1 reason he was 50/50 was playing next to Gil. When Gil went down, he was exposed.

However, in my opinion, he is a decent defender especially considering he is a wizard and not a spur. The wizards historically have never been given any slack from refs.

He is also the toughest wizard. Even more tougher than Caron. Caron gets hurt every year playing ok defense but DeShawn plays LeBron headup and then also is willing to step in front of LeBron attempting to draw charges while not flopping. That is probably how he got so beat up. He had a ironman streak going.

Post #8 » by **nate33** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 6:41 pm

Nuggets18 wrote:Do you see him getting any PT next year, with your new players?

What i would like would be a Deshaw for Steven Hunter deal.

Hunter is an 3.7 mill expiring

And i think he would be good in denver with billups to replace dahntay jones

I really like that deal and I would throw in the Wizards 2010 2nd rounder to make it happen. We'll probably sell our 2nd rounder anyhow, and Denver could use some extra 2nd rounders to fill up their roster at the cheapest possible cost.

Regarding Stevenson, if he retains his form from a year ago, he'd probably be a modest upgrade over Dahntay Jones. He's an adequate 3-point shooter, an above-average defender, a willing passer, and he takes care of the ball with very few turnovers. His cons are that he is no good at attacking the rim or creating his own shot, and he's a below average rebounder. Last season, he was absolutely terrible offensively, but it's probably due to the back injury. He was riding a consecutive games streak and didn't want to take himself out when he probably should have much earlier.

eltacoman · Post #9 » by **eltacoman** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 8:14 pm

Nuggets18 wrote:Do you see him getting any PT next year, with your new players?

What i would like would be a Deshaw for Steven Hunter deal.

Hunter is an 3.7 mill expiring

And i think he would be good in denver with billups to replace dahntay jones

man that deal would be heavenly ... we get our 5th big and even out our gaurds out and take a year off in contracts

i would even give them Critt with Deshawn for Steven Hunter

Steven Hunter 7 foot 220 pounds
Overview: A long, athletic center who never quite lived up to his offensive potential, but is a nice defensive-minded backup. Possesses great length and size for the center spot. Shows good quickness and explosiveness. Not strong enough to maintain position against bigger players. Doesn’t offer much offensively, but can have nice games when he has a favorable matchup. Makes his money as a shot blocker. Has been essentially the same type of player since his days at DePaul. Spent only two years in college before making the leap to the NBA. Was picked almost exclusively on potential, and didn’t put up big numbers as a collegiate.

Offense: Gets most of his points off of hustle. Runs the floor extremely fast for a player his size. Has some very impressive tools, but never seems to put them together. Will hit a midrange jumper once in a blue moon. Has a slow release, and shoots the ball on the way down, but doesn’t have much trouble getting it off due to his size. Doesn’t show much back to the basket game because he sets up so far off the block he has no choice but to take a turnaround jumper. Won’t get low to fight for position. Has a decent right handed hook shot, but it’s not smooth enough and he lacks the proper touch for it to be consistently effective. Faces up more than half of the time he gets the ball with his back to the basket. Has a surprising solid handle, but is too tall to avoid turning the ball over. Does most of his damage by using his athleticism, not his skills. Gets a lot of easy baskets by cutting to the rim and working off of his teammates. Not a great finisher due to his lack of touch at the rim, but capable. Will dunk whenever he can, but shies away from contact. Still goes to the line at a decent rate, but shoots a bad percentage. Decent offensive rebounder due to his leaping ability and length. Doesn’t use leverage to compensate for his lack of strength. Will shows some unusual skills for a seven footer, but lacks the focus, footwork, strength, basketball IQ and touch to utilize them.

Defense: A talented shot blocker who shies away from physical play on the block. Will get taken advantage of by players who thrive on bullying their way to the rim. Lacks bulk and doesn’t use leverage to compensate for it. Gets his hands on a lot of shots by virtue of his length and athleticism. Has the lateral quickness to defend the midrange, but has very poor footwork and plays off balance. Will get caught up in screens and doesn’t have the ability to fight through them. Doesn’t have great awareness. Contests some shots, but is actually rather poor at rotating over from the weakside. Doesn’t box out well either. Bites on too many fakes. Needs to learn to get low and play with leverage. From draftexpress

VA_story · Post #10 » by **VA_story** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 8:50 pm

Optms wrote:Here's a thought; he's just not that good of a shooter to begin with. Injuries, along playing without a guy who'd give him more open looks (Arenas) might have contributed some too.

I agree

jarrettjackfan · Post #11 » by **jarrettjackfan** » Thu Jul 9, 2009 1:22 am

I don't think he was all that great last year because his shots he actually had a hand in his face, and he couldn't handle it. Like Optms said, with Arenas in there, he got more open shots, and any NBA player can knock down shots if their wide open, Those are my thoughts on this topic.

Kanyewest · Post #12 » by **Kanyewest** » Thu Jul 9, 2009 3:27 am

Stevenson 06-07 and 07-08 season were actually comparable. Sure his field goal percentage was at 38%. However, he was also manged to shoot better from 3 point range: he had a 38 % from 3 with twice as many attempts from the previous year. He also managed to increase his free throw percentage from 70% to 80%.. Despite the loss of Arenas in 07-08, his TS % only dropped from .542% to .529%. I think the injuries to his back and knee did him in more than anything. He can still be a serviceable role player off the bench if he can return back to 100%.

verbal8 · Post #13 » by **verbal8** » Thu Jul 9, 2009 12:45 pm

I think The Nuggets might be interested in this deal also, because Hunter does not to seem to have much of a role on their team. Andersen is basically a better version of him.

nate33 wrote:
Nuggets18 wrote:Do you see him getting any PT next year, with your new players?

What i would like would be a Deshaw for Steven Hunter deal.

Hunter is an 3.7 mill expiring

And i think he would be good in denver with billups to replace dahntay jones

I really like that deal and I would throw in the Wizards 2010 2nd rounder to make it happen. We'll probably sell our 2nd rounder anyhow, and Denver could use some extra 2nd rounders to fill up their roster at the cheapest possible cost.

Regarding Stevenson, if he retains his form from a year ago, he'd probably be a modest upgrade over Dahntay Jones. He's an adequate 3-point shooter, an above-average defender, a willing passer, and he takes care of the ball with very few turnovers. His cons are that he is no good at attacking the rim or creating his own shot, and he's a below average rebounder. Last season, he was absolutely terrible offensively, but it's probably due to the back injury. He was riding a consecutive games streak and didn't want to take himself out when he probably should have much earlier.

BigA · Post #14 » by **BigA** » Thu Jul 9, 2009 11:54 pm

The other thing to consider is that DeShawn exudes class and sophistication.

pancakes3 · Post #15 » by **pancakes3** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:27 am

HAH. that pic never gets old...

bulletproof_32 · Post #16 » by **bulletproof_32** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:13 am

This offseason is huge for DeShawn. If he's added a few more arm tats (and maybe a neck tat) then a trade to Denver is a very real possibility. A face tat though would certainly seal the deal.

Wizards2Lottery · Post #17 » by **Wizards2Lottery** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:27 am

I will personally drive him to Dullest Airport if he gets traded.

jarrettjackfan · Post #18 » by **jarrettjackfan** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:56 am

I would just ask you to please not bring him to Indy, I really don't want anything to do with him.

eathy · Post #19 » by **eathy** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:44 am

LyricalRico wrote:
Nuggets18 wrote:What i would like would be a Deshaw for Steven Hunter deal.

Oh man, I'd take that in a heartbeat. I can actually see him fitting in with Denver if they don't re-up Jones. He's probably about equal with Jones defensively but he gives you the added advantage of being able to make open shots. He can also play point in a pinch.

Chucky Atkin's TE for Aaron Affalo... is a BETTER and CHEAPER option.