OT: Bobcats Review

moofs · Post #1 » by **moofs** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:34 pm

http://thesportcount.com/2009/07/29/the ... yre-doing/

That list is sad.

I actually like the Okafor/Chandler trade for them, although it reeks of "accidentally good". They were paying Okafor like a franchise player, when he is most certainly not. They're still paying Chandler like one, when he isn't either, but in his case they're only doing so for 2 years instead of 4. A team can grow if they can find a way to overpay a guy like Okafor or Chandler after their core is built, but not if they overpay BEFORE it's built. At that point you've got 1/5 of your cap tied up in a marginal guy. Say you drafted all the rest of your players in the 3-18 spots (likely, if you're building), each of them will cost 1.5-6m per year for you to keep them, multiply by 10 - you're likely to land in the ~25-40m range. Add Okafor's 12m, and BOOM you're already somewhere between 40m and the cap - on unproven draft picks. You don't overpay for a C just because he's a C, you can only do it if it makes sense, and Okafor didn't. Factor in that they're hemorrhaging money, effectively lowering their cap, and that they have to have a few "savvy vets" for 4-7m, and BOOM, no proven talent, no proven leadership, no chemistry, no financial flexibility, money tied up long term in areas that don't produce to their needed levels, all of which sums up to Michael Jordan graduating from the Isaiah Thomas School of Wtfgm. They haven't changed any management, so as I said, I don't see this as a calculated good move, but it is.

Post #2 » by **Optimism Prime** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:12 pm

"If you’re a logical general manager — especially one who just picked up a trey specialist like Jason Richardson — you don’t throw so much cash at Matt Carroll. Especially over six years. You don’t even contemplate it. Can you see the Spurs making that offer?"

Absolutely correct.

Not being sarcastic: every move should be evaluated that way. Not saying they're a perfect front office that's never made a bad move (see: Scola, Luis) but they're pretty up on things. Anyone want to evaluate our moves since '02 with that standard?

jove9 · Post #3 » by **jove9** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:05 pm

Time for a timeless quote:

KWSN-Men wrote:Reportedly the highest IQ of any NBA GM is the Rockets GM Daryl Morey. His IQ is 160. That's definitely genius level, but it's hardly by any stretch impressive. It's actually quite an indictment that teams that have billions at stake and only a 160 IQ is the highest in the league. And yeah he's not a former basketball player or coach..... Well it's low compared to my IQ and plenty of other people's as well.

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Post #4 » by **Optimism Prime** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:07 pm

jove9 wrote:Time for a timeless quote:

KWSN-Men wrote:Reportedly the highest IQ of any NBA GM is the Rockets GM Daryl Morey. His IQ is 160. That's definitely genius level, but it's hardly by any stretch impressive. It's actually quite an indictment that teams that have billions at stake and only a 160 IQ is the highest in the league. And yeah he's not a former basketball player or coach..... Well it's low compared to my IQ and plenty of other people's as well.

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Good times, good times... how did he not get banned right away?