Salmons

Post #1 » by **snowman** » Sat Dec 26, 2009 5:51 pm

Any interest in Salmons? We could have him, I think, for Scal and House. Then trade TA for Nate Robinson and we would have:
Wallace / Williams
Davis / Williams
Daniels / Walker
Salmons / Giddens
Robinson / Hudson

That is a top notch bench.

BRUNiNHO91 · Post #2 » by **BRUNiNHO91** » Sat Dec 26, 2009 6:32 pm

Tony Allen >> Salmons
Eddie House>>Nate(Not talent wise, but as in a WAY WAY WAY better fit for our team)

I see no point in doing this..If we had to do some sort of trade, I would rather give Lue a contract(which I think we will sometime soon anyways) and trade Scal, TA and House for a solid back up SG/SF(A Corey Maggette or Raje Bell type)...but that's just me... :dontknow:

Post #3 » by **Hilltop** » Sat Dec 26, 2009 6:36 pm

What's the scouting report on TA? I heard you Celtic fans hate him. Is that true?

BRUNiNHO91 · Post #4 » by **BRUNiNHO91** » Sat Dec 26, 2009 6:46 pm

Hilltop wrote:What's the scouting report on TA? I heard you Celtic fans hate him. Is that true?

He's pretty good when healthy. All those knee injuries **** him up though. But I like him. I think he is great defensively(still haven't seen anybody play as great a defensive game on Kobe as he did a couple years back when he was healthy). His offense is very sloppy, he turns over the ball alot, and he is pretty (Please Use More Appropriate Word)(which is why fans hate him so much)..as long as he doesn't force anything he is pretty solid though. He can get to the basket pretty easily, as he did yesterday a few times. IMO, when 100% healthy, he brings more to the table than Marquis Daniels does.

Bcustom28k · Post #5 » by **Bcustom28k** » Sat Dec 26, 2009 6:46 pm

Poster 2 above me says that tony allen is better than Salmons. and he is a reputable member of this board

I rarely post here but im love real GM...

That was flat out stupid what you said. are you being serious?

BRUNiNHO91 · Post #6 » by **BRUNiNHO91** » Sat Dec 26, 2009 6:51 pm

Bcustom28k wrote:Poster 2 above me says that tony allen is better than Salmons. and he is a reputable member of this board

I rarely post here but im love real GM...

That was flat out stupid what you said. are you being serious?

Yea. I would take Tony Allen's 7 and 3 off the bench on a contending team in limited minutes, over Salmons whopping 13 and 3 with starting minutes for the mighty Chicago Bulls anyday. But if you think it's stupid, than that's on you. You should really learn how to respect other people's opinions even though you don't agree with them.

famadihana · Post #7 » by **famadihana** » Sat Dec 26, 2009 6:59 pm

BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Yea. I would take Tony Allen's 7 and 3 off the bench on a contending team in limited minutes, over Salmons whopping 13 and 3 with starting minutes for the mighty Chicago Bulls anyday. But if you think it's stupid, than that's on you. You should really learn how to respect other people's opinions even though you don't agree with them.

You're allowed to have an opinion, but that doesn't mean it's a smart one.

In terms of talent alone, Salmons is clearly the superior player -- in my opinion

BRUNiNHO91 · Post #8 » by **BRUNiNHO91** » Sat Dec 26, 2009 7:14 pm

famadihana wrote:
BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Yea. I would take Tony Allen's 7 and 3 off the bench on a contending team in limited minutes, over Salmons whopping 13 and 3 with starting minutes for the mighty Chicago Bulls anyday. But if you think it's stupid, than that's on you. You should really learn how to respect other people's opinions even though you don't agree with them.

You're allowed to have an opinion, but that doesn't mean it's a smart one.

In terms of talent alone, Salmons is clearly the superior player -- in my opinion

Nobody in here is good enough to judge another persons opinion. That's what I think.
Salmons might be the superior player, but it doesn't look like that this year.

John Salmons

MPG: 36.7 / PPG: 13.4 / REB: 3.7 / AST: 2

Tony Allen

MPG:15.9 / PPG: 7.8 / REB: 3.10 / AST:1

Why is it stupid to prefer a player that puts up almost the same stats as the other one in 20 less minutes, is 3 years younger and a better defender? It might be stupid to pick Scalabrine over Kobe..but Tony over Salmons? Come on...

Hemingway · Post #9 » by **Hemingway** » Sat Dec 26, 2009 8:27 pm

BRUNiNHO91 wrote:
famadihana wrote:
BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Yea. I would take Tony Allen's 7 and 3 off the bench on a contending team in limited minutes, over Salmons whopping 13 and 3 with starting minutes for the mighty Chicago Bulls anyday. But if you think it's stupid, than that's on you. You should really learn how to respect other people's opinions even though you don't agree with them.

You're allowed to have an opinion, but that doesn't mean it's a smart one.

In terms of talent alone, Salmons is clearly the superior player -- in my opinion

Nobody in here is good enough to judge another persons opinion. That's what I think.

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Judging people's opinions is pretty much what an internet message board is. And to say that no one is good enough to judge someone's opinion that in and of itself is a judgment which contradicts your statement. Lawyered!

Tony Allen is terrible. He has had a few games so now half the board goes from hating him to loving him. He is a constant letdown due to his injuries and bad decision making skills both on and off the court. We are showcasing him now to try to get something for him in a trade. I haven't looked at Salmons contract but if the money is close enough I think Boston would do the trade.

EJay33 · Post #10 » by **EJay33** » Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:58 pm

You guys...Can't you at least pretend like you've seen Salmons play before? I'm not a huge fan, but you take him over Tony Allen any day. He has a very nice shot. Inexplicably terrible season this year, though. What makes you guys think TA and Scal would get Salmons? Even with the way he's playing no way this happens.

BRUNiNHO91 · Post #11 » by **BRUNiNHO91** » Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:54 pm

Hemingway wrote:Judging people's opinions is pretty much what an internet message board is. And to say that no one is good enough to judge someone's opinion that in and of itself is a judgment which contradicts your statement. Lawyered!

Tony Allen is terrible. He has had a few games so now half the board goes from hating him to loving him. He is a constant letdown due to his injuries and bad decision making skills both on and off the court. We are showcasing him now to try to get something for him in a trade. I haven't looked at Salmons contract but if the money is close enough I think Boston would do the trade.

Mhm...no..an internet message board is to have discussions with people, if both have different opinions, you debate it. You don't just degrade somebodies opinion, call them stupid just because you don't agree with them. You digs?
I actually lol'd at that lawyered statement..good one... :oops:

..but you know what I mean. Nobody here is better than the other person. Show some respect. You don't agree with me, tell me why..put up stats or facts to prove what makes it so ridiculous of me not to want to trade Tony for Salmons....kind of like I did..people here just dislike Tony Allen because he has his share of 'basketball illiterate' plays and wanted to be killed by Chicago fans, and have no real reason to say why Salmons is better than him. And if your terrible, you don't have you 'good games'. TA has played well in every single game since he has come back, except the Chicago one, and even Doc has said that. Everytime Tony Allen gets 100% healthy, he is very good. You know that..we've seen it before, and we are beginning to see it again.

Godmoney wrote:You guys...Can't you at least pretend like you've seen Salmons play before? I'm not a huge fan, but you take him over Tony Allen any day. He has a very nice shot. Inexplicably terrible season this year, though. What makes you guys think TA and Scal would get Salmons? Even with the way he's playing no way this happens.

I seen him play...he was great on that series against Boston last year, yet if that made me choose him over TA, I would also have to choose Rondo over Chris Paul, since CP3 has never averaged an almost a 'trip dub' playoff series.

And to wether or not Scal+TA lands us Salmons(even thought the trade on the thread was House+Scal, not TA), It probaly does as Chicago is a MESS right now, and he has been riding BENCH to Kirk Hinrich for some games. If Tony Allen can step in place of Paul Pierce and get himself a GREAT GREAT game like he had yesterday, than he sure as hell can get good numbers in Chicago. And that 'Salmons is having a bad year' won't cut it, IMO. His career numbers are not all that better than this years number, so I don't buy that 'bad season' arguement...

Cyclical · Post #12 » by **Cyclical** » Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:33 pm

The original post actually said Scal+House. To that I say - where do I sign?

biggamejames2 · Post #13 » by **biggamejames2** » Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:02 am

Salmons is having a pretty below avg season for him and I may be wrong but hasn't this been pretty solid so far for TA? You guys all saw what kind of game Salmons has in the playoffs last year. If you're talking about their skill vs. what they get paid you have somewhat of a discussion but if you're just comparing talent then it's not close. The addition of Scal doesn't change anything imo, he's pretty worthless.

captain green · Post #14 » by **captain green** » Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:03 am

salmons is better than tony allen not even close. better stats better IQ better locker room guy. and can guard the 3 and 2.
I'd take him over T.ALLEN, GIDDENS, SCALABRINE OR ALL 3 COMBINED.

bc legends · Post #15 » by **bc legends** » Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:39 am

I doubt the Bulls would be willing to give him up so easily.

BRUNiNHO91 · Post #16 » by **BRUNiNHO91** » Sun Dec 27, 2009 3:57 am

Look at the comments from CHICAGO fans, about Salmons when a Mavs fans asked what it would take to get him...

Sorry man but you know nothing about Salmons.

The dump I just took 10 minutes ago is a more pure 2 then Salmons. Take him, please.

Does he need to be wrapped up in a bow for those expirings?

Salmons for some expirings and a bucket of fried chicken.

take him, please...

no really, TAKE HIM!!!

Just give me a Snicker bar and you can have Salmons

Sounds like what our fans would say about Mikki Moore...

Scalamental · Post #17 » by **Scalamental** » Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:43 am

hahaha, well salmons has been far more consistent than Tony Allen by far in the last two years. So he at least gets that nod. Also, he was ballin' last year and played very well against us in the play offs. Im surprised to hear those funny quotes but I'm sure if chicago asked about tony a lot of c's board users would sound off on tony as well. Tony has got to play consistantly for a whole season and into the playoffs to get to ">>" status over Salmons. I'd have easier time comparing house with Salmons.

famadihana · Post #18 » by **famadihana** » Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:45 am

I appreciate Tony's defense and hustle, but there's not really anything special about it. It's painful to watch him on the offensive side of the ball--he's reckless and seemingly has a worse jumper than Rondo (if that is possible).

He's had a few very average games since coming back from his injury. Please don't overrate his performance this season.

7seventynine9 · Post #19 » by **7seventynine9** » Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:01 am

Salmons is better than Tony Allen. He'd be a better fit on the Cavs though.

Bcustom28k · Post #20 » by **Bcustom28k** » Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:20 am

BRUNiNHO9,

I am not calling you stupid or degrading your opinion. I am however degrading the non sense you posted which was in fact very stupid. and im sure you regret

I am a Tony Allen fan. but im a much bigger basketball fan. from watchint he two players Salmons is clearly superior . Allen has great defensive potential but that is all he has on salmons.

And if u wanna look at the stats. Salmons has been putting up monster stats ever since becoming a full time starter a few years back.