OT: Pacquiao-Mayweather fight off! [foreal this time]

[Senor Chang]

After two days of mediation in Los Angeles, Pacquiao promoter Bob Arum has told several U.S. media outlets that the proposed March 13 bout between the two superstars is off because Mayweather won't compromise on drug testing. . . . "Manny accepted what was on the table and Mayweather rejected it," Arum told ESPN.com. "(Mayweather advisers Al) Haymon and (Richard) Schaefer tried to convince Floyd all [Tuesday night] and [Wednesday] and he wouldn't agree to it. He didn't want the fight. He never wanted the fight. I always knew the fight wouldn't happen."

http://www.thestar.com/sports/boxing/ar ... sting-spat

well i guess this fight aint happeneing anytime soon. thank you floyd, you can keep your undefeated record and shove it.

[shugknight]

haha Floyd, you and you're ridiculoius excuses. If you didn't want to fight Manny in the first place, you should of just said so.

[sdeezy]

Floyd is such a b*tch..I'm starting to really dislike the guy

[DuckIII]

What happened? Pacquiao decided to undergo the drug testing that Mayweather's camp demanded, and then Mayweather still refused to fight?

[jamesdiego]

****!! That blows..

[Sever82]

haha Floyd, you and you're ridiculoius excuses. If you didn't want to fight Manny in the first place, you should of just said so.

So the fact that Floyd asked for Random drug testing in a PED infested era makes it an excuse for him not to fight?

Are you ignoring that he agreed to the weight for the fight, the boxing gloves, the rediculous clause in the contract for being 1lb over the designated weight? Floyd could've not agree to any of pacman's requests but he agreed to all of them and made one request which was random blood testing. The fact that Manny budged and said he would agree to drug testing inside of 30 days but not random blood testing makes Pacman very suspect. Floyd no doubt has dodged fights in the past but no means is he dodging this one, if he was, he wouldn't have agreed to any of the previous requests pacman made.

[DanTown8587]

Manny refused Random Drug Testing, Floyd didn't feel it was worth his record to fight a guy he probably suspected of PED use and Floyd is the bad guy? Tell me this, if you were Floyd Mayweather, would YOU fight Manny if he didn't agree to random drug testing? I say no.

[Senor Chang]

What happened? Pacquiao decided to undergo the drug testing that Mayweather's camp demanded, and then Mayweather still refused to fight?

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/180756/medi ... yd-impasse

Retired federal judge Daniel Weinstein will hear out the camps of both Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. and try to settle the differences of the two parties with the ultimate goal of reaching an agreement to make their March 13 super fight a possible one.

In a report by USA Today, it was mentioned that Weinstein will serve as mediator during the meeting to be held at the Santa Monica office of the Judicial Arbitration and Mediation Services (JAMS).

Bob Arum, chairman of Top Rank Promotions and Todd DuBoef, Top Rank president, are representing Pacquiao during the meeting, while expected to attend the mediation in behalf of Mayweather Jr. are Golden Boy Promotions’ Chief Executive Officer (CEO) Richard Schaefer and Bruce Binkow, chief marketing officer of GBP.

Basically, manny agreed to the terms judge Weinstein put on the table and floyd turned them down, despite his team uging him to take it. he wasnt willing to budge

[jamesdiego]

haha Floyd, you and you're ridiculoius excuses. If you didn't want to fight Manny in the first place, you should of just said so.

So the fact that Floyd asked for Random drug testing in a PED infested era makes it an excuse for him not to fight?

Are you ignoring that he agreed to the weight for the fight, the boxing gloves, the rediculous clause in the contract for being 1lb over the designated weight? Floyd could've not agree to any of pacman's requests but he agreed to all of them and made one request which was random blood testing. The fact that Manny budged and said he would agree to drug testing inside of 30 days but not random blood testing makes Pacman very suspect. Floyd no doubt has dodged fights in the past but no means is he dodging this one, if he was, he wouldn't have agreed to any of the previous requests pacman made.

Thats because he purposely came in over weight against Marquez, and only had to pay $300,000 penalty. Which is chump change for him. How can you call it ridiculous, when he just did it his last bout?

[Sever82]

What happened? Pacquiao decided to undergo the drug testing that Mayweather's camp demanded, and then Mayweather still refused to fight?

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/180756/medi ... yd-impasse

Retired federal judge Daniel Weinstein will hear out the camps of both Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. and try to settle the differences of the two parties with the ultimate goal of reaching an agreement to make their March 13 super fight a possible one.

In a report by USA Today, it was mentioned that Weinstein will serve as mediator during the meeting to be held at the Santa Monica office of the Judicial Arbitration and Mediation Services (JAMS).

Bob Arum, chairman of Top Rank Promotions and Todd DuBoef, Top Rank president, are representing Pacquiao during the meeting, while expected to attend the mediation in behalf of Mayweather Jr. are Golden Boy Promotions’ Chief Executive Officer (CEO) Richard Schaefer and Bruce Binkow, chief marketing officer of GBP.

Basically, manny agreed to the terms judge Weinstein put on the table and floyd turned them down, despite his team uging him to take it. he wasnt willing to budge

From what Dan Rafael at ESPN said, Manny agreed to blood testing inside of thirty days but wouldn't agree to random blood testing which makes the testing pointless to begin with. Sorry but if you have a quiz every friday, its easier to study for that than a pop up quiz that can happen any day. Random doesn't give either fighter's training staff to preprare if they are using PEDs.

[genbar]

If what Bob Arum is saying is true ("he never wanted the fight", etc.), this makes Mayweather look like a total weenie.

EDIT: NVM I skimmed the fact that Arum is Pac-Man's guy aka the most important part of it. Doiiiii

[Senor Chang]

haha Floyd, you and you're ridiculoius excuses. If you didn't want to fight Manny in the first place, you should of just said so.

So the fact that Floyd asked for Random drug testing in a PED infested era makes it an excuse for him not to fight?

Are you ignoring that he agreed to the weight for the fight, the boxing gloves, the rediculous clause in the contract for being 1lb over the designated weight? Floyd could've not agree to any of pacman's requests but he agreed to all of them and made one request which was random blood testing. The fact that Manny budged and said he would agree to drug testing inside of 30 days but not random blood testing makes Pacman very suspect. Floyd no doubt has dodged fights in the past but no means is he dodging this one, if he was, he wouldn't have agreed to any of the previous requests pacman made.

floyd has come overweight in past fights, most recently the marquez fight and manny being the naturally smaller man is not going to allow floyd to do that to him.

here is an interview in 2005 where manny talks about how the hospital loses his records 2 days before the 1st fight with morales, and he was forced to take another blood test when he was limiting his food and water intake for weigh-in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYJP0O393nQ

so manny agreed to terms judge/mediator gave the two camps while floyd turned them down and manny is suspect?

[Chicago-Bull-E]

Manny refused Random Drug Testing, Floyd didn't feel it was worth his record to fight a guy he probably suspected of PED use and Floyd is the bad guy? Tell me this, if you were Floyd Mayweather, would YOU fight Manny if he didn't agree to random drug testing? I say no.

I wouldnt either. Accusing people of things they have never done, nor there is any evidence of, is really the way to go.

I would never fight a guy that didnt agree to a style of drug testing that has never been done, or instituted in my sport. I mean COME ON!!!

Next up: AFC teams refuse to play Peyton Manning until olympic style testing is performed on him. Whats Peyton's problem?

[Sever82]

haha Floyd, you and you're ridiculoius excuses. If you didn't want to fight Manny in the first place, you should of just said so.

So the fact that Floyd asked for Random drug testing in a PED infested era makes it an excuse for him not to fight?

Are you ignoring that he agreed to the weight for the fight, the boxing gloves, the rediculous clause in the contract for being 1lb over the designated weight? Floyd could've not agree to any of pacman's requests but he agreed to all of them and made one request which was random blood testing. The fact that Manny budged and said he would agree to drug testing inside of 30 days but not random blood testing makes Pacman very suspect. Floyd no doubt has dodged fights in the past but no means is he dodging this one, if he was, he wouldn't have agreed to any of the previous requests pacman made.

Thats because he purposely came in over weight against Marquez, and only had to pay $300,000 penalty. Which is chump change for him. How can you call it ridiculous, when he just did it his last bout?

Its rediculous because of the amount of money per lb and the amount of money for such a violation is unheard of.

[defmut]

What happened? Pacquiao decided to undergo the drug testing that Mayweather's camp demanded, and then Mayweather still refused to fight?

Instead of ablood test 30 days before the fight, Manny's camp agreed to testing 24 days before fight.

After their representatives met with a mediator in Los Angeles, Pacquiao consented to a final blood test 24 days ahead of the bout, but Mayweather rejected the compromise, prompting Arum to declare the bout dead and Mayweather a coward.

But if Manny had no problem testing 24 days before bout, what is the difference from 24 hours before the fight? If he's clean, he's clean right?

Both fighters are walking away from at least $40 million from fight purses and pay-per-view contracts. Suckas!

[Sever82]

haha Floyd, you and you're ridiculoius excuses. If you didn't want to fight Manny in the first place, you should of just said so.

So the fact that Floyd asked for Random drug testing in a PED infested era makes it an excuse for him not to fight?

Are you ignoring that he agreed to the weight for the fight, the boxing gloves, the rediculous clause in the contract for being 1lb over the designated weight? Floyd could've not agree to any of pacman's requests but he agreed to all of them and made one request which was random blood testing. The fact that Manny budged and said he would agree to drug testing inside of 30 days but not random blood testing makes Pacman very suspect. Floyd no doubt has dodged fights in the past but no means is he dodging this one, if he was, he wouldn't have agreed to any of the previous requests pacman made.

floyd has come overweight in past fights, most recently the marquez fight and manny being the naturally smaller man is not going to allow floyd to do that to him.

here is an interview in 2005 where manny talks about how the hospital loses his records 2 days before the 1st fight with morales, and he was forced to take another blood test when he was limiting his food and water intake for weigh-in


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYJP0O393nQ

so manny agreed to terms judge/mediator gave the two camps while floyd turned them down and manny is suspect?

Yes because Manny still wont agree to random testing. Testing thats scheduled is pretty dumb in my opinion.

[Senor Chang]

Manny refused Random Drug Testing, Floyd didn't feel it was worth his record to fight a guy he probably suspected of PED use and Floyd is the bad guy? Tell me this, if you were Floyd Mayweather, would YOU fight Manny if he didn't agree to random drug testing? I say no.

yes he is the bad guy. if i was floyd absoultely i would fight manny without random drug testing

[Sever82]

What happened? Pacquiao decided to undergo the drug testing that Mayweather's camp demanded, and then Mayweather still refused to fight?

Instead of ablood test 30 days before the fight, Manny's camp agreed to testing 24 days before fight.

After their representatives met with a mediator in Los Angeles, Pacquiao consented to a final blood test 24 days ahead of the bout, but Mayweather rejected the compromise, prompting Arum to declare the bout dead and Mayweather a coward.

But if Manny had no problem testing 24 days before bout, what is the difference from 24 hours before the fight? If he's clean, he's clean right?

Both fighters are walking away from at least $40 million from fight purses and pay-per-view contracts. Suckas!

24 days before a fight is pretty rediculous. Come on now, seriously? People think testing 24 days before the actual event proves the guy isn't on anything? give me a break.

[jamesdiego]

Its rediculous because of the amount of money per lb and the amount of money for such a violation is unheard of.

No, it's ridiculous that a fighter would be so unprofessional to purposely come in overwieght to gain a direct advantage over another fighter. Come on.

[Senor Chang]

Yes because Manny still wont agree to random testing. Testing thats scheduled is pretty dumb in my opinion.

so tell me when this has ever been done in boxing? and what has manny done to make him suspect? manny isnt even huge like your barry bonds and whatnots, he's just really cut