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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#101 » by WindyCityBorn » Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:07 am

Little Nathan wrote:Vucevic is completely useless again and we’re giving the G-League guy we signed 2 days ago 30 minutes…but sure, let’s talk about Zach.


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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#102 » by WindyCityBorn » Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:13 am

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Dominater wrote:Piss poor effort. No excuse. The Heat were also short handed and missing their 2 best players. On paper the Bulls had the WAY more talented team.


On paper means nothing when Vuc is playing like a borderline NBA player. So basically remove his reputation from the equation and tell me how the Bulls have big talent advantage?

Vuc is an all-star talent. Him not living up to that right now is on him. The only better talent on the Heat is Lowry, and he's on his last legs. Talent-wise the Bulls still had Lavine, Lonzo, and Vuc. On paper the Bulls blow the Heat out. Instead the opposite happened. That's nobody's fault but their own.


Is he still an all-star talent? At this point until he starts performing like one I don’t expect it and none of you should. And his failure to even play mediocre basketball is on Vuc and not anyone else on the team. So no we do not any significant talent advantage right now in the real world.

This team shouldn’t even be playing right now and they are performing like they shouldn’t be out there. Sadly I think the best thing to happen for us would be to get some more in protocol and shut it down. I don’t really need to hope for that because it is likely gonna happen. I’ll be shocked if we don’t lose 2 or 3 more next week just as some start to come back.
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#103 » by Senor Chang » Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:47 am

At the hospital when one patient on the unit tests positive then the whole unit is put on quarantine. In the NBA they just quarantine those who tested positive. It's only a matter of time before the rest of the team is out.

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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#104 » by Bulls2021 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:49 am

This is going to happen to other teams and the Bulls will get some free victories. It'll balance out.
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Post#105 » by Bullflip » Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:31 am

Bulls2021 wrote:This is going to happen to other teams and the Bulls will get some free victories. It'll balance out.


The silver lining is this is happening early in the season. Can you imagine if this happened during the playoffs?
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#106 » by FriedRise » Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:51 am

Bulls struggling and Butler/Wendell/Wagner fans be like

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Good to finally see some of you this season! Hope you stick around once this team is healthy and back to winning - it’s been a fun ride!
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#107 » by PrimzyBulls81 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:24 am

Whats the point of this games really?

NBA league still feels good about G League squads?? Just pure garbage.. Postpone MF games
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#108 » by pipfan » Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:45 am

Lucky for us we have an open stretch of games, to get some guys back
We will be fine-still need a PF, and now the best candidate-Grant-is out for a while
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#109 » by Rowland Garrett » Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:59 am

SHO'NUFF wrote:Vucevic = A lower middle class Wendell Carter Jr.

Yea, Wendell really took us to places. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#110 » by samwana » Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:08 am

SHO'NUFF wrote:Vucevic = A lower middle class Wendell Carter Jr.
vucevic is lumbering trash, we come back to within 7 with bradley and as soon as softevic comes back in it balloons to 17 in seconds. is bradley the solution no, but softevic is a big big problem. i hate to see him play. there is no energy with him on either side of the ball..

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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#111 » by Wingy » Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:37 am

FriedRise wrote:I think COVID is the bigger problem, but Vooch’s sharp decline is certainly up there.

But shame on the league for not postponing this game. That team out there tonight wouldn’t be able to beat Detroit. Until we get some people back, it’ll be Ls across the chest.


I agree with the league being irresponsible from a health standpoint, but not from a competitive standpoint.

With basically 4/5ths of our starting lineup that still includes Zach/Vuc, we shouldn’t be out classed so badly against a squad missing their two best players, and several rotation pieces too. The level to which the board is using covid as an excuse is crazy to me considering what Miami was missing too.

Vuc was bad (again). Dead horse, take some more punishment. I have slim hope he turns it around late, but unfortunately I think we’re seeing the cliff some rightfully feared. If he played “normal,” this, and many other games are a completely different story.

Zach was hot, but unable to really put any imprint on the game outside of hot shooting. Another game against the Heat where he was more than happy to take lots of long jumpers. Basically lazy shots for him as he can get those anytime, against anyone. I scrutinize Zach to a higher standard as our theoretical best player, and lone hope for a true star, so I’m often times more interested in how he plays than results...watching his evolution (or lack there of) over time. To be fair, they ran lots of doubles at him, but that’s what he’s going to see at his caliber.

Lonzo also stood out. He’s a darling for his defense, and rightfully so. But his offense really is strictly as a role player on that end in the half court. Strong spot up 3s, and I don’t know what else against a set defense. Seems very dubious how much he will impact playoff games.

Bright side is I can write that last sentence, and we will get healthier sooner than later.
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#112 » by samwana » Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:05 pm

mj234eva wrote:
FriedRise wrote:
Read on Twitter


I know exactly what's going on. They aren't going in.
you're right
i know another point, going strong and dunk it should do wonders instead of just takung soft slomo shots around the basket..

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Post#113 » by Ctownbulls » Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:07 pm

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biggestbullsfan wrote:Also, you’ll be fooling yourself if you don’t think the current Covid outbreak is effecting our team mentality. They’re probably worried they’re next.

yes, pro athletes have been notoriously skittish about contracting COVID
I doubt they are worried about being next but it doesn't mean the situation isn't frustrating, tiring and demoralizing. I think it's clearly had a mental impact.

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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#114 » by dougthonus » Sun Dec 12, 2021 1:16 pm

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biggestbullsfan wrote:Also, you’ll be fooling yourself if you don’t think the current Covid outbreak is effecting our team mentality. They’re probably worried they’re next.

yes, pro athletes have been notoriously skittish about contracting COVID


Karl Anthony Towns mom died of COVID and I believe he had another death in has family too (an uncle or someone close to him). Zach, lI believe) is close to Towns. I'm not saying they are panicked over it, but that's a pretty tight connection to have such an impactful death that I'm sure it has some real impact.
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#115 » by coldfish » Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:14 pm

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dice wrote:
biggestbullsfan wrote:Also, you’ll be fooling yourself if you don’t think the current Covid outbreak is effecting our team mentality. They’re probably worried they’re next.

yes, pro athletes have been notoriously skittish about contracting COVID
I doubt they are worried about being next but it doesn't mean the situation isn't frustrating, tiring and demoralizing. I think it's clearly had a mental impact.

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That's my read on it. Every game seemingly has another player or two test positive right before it. That has to be draining on everyone.
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#116 » by Wingy » Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:55 pm

coldfish wrote:
Ctownbulls wrote:
dice wrote:yes, pro athletes have been notoriously skittish about contracting COVID
I doubt they are worried about being next but it doesn't mean the situation isn't frustrating, tiring and demoralizing. I think it's clearly had a mental impact.

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That's my read on it. Every game seemingly has another player or two test positive right before it. That has to be draining on everyone.


Yeah, but they also know it’s short-lived. We can’t circle the wagons Thibs-style for 2 weeks from an effort standpoint? Sure, we still lose a few, but I almost feel a sense of resignation, and that’s disappointing.

I could see it if it were a long-term injury to Zach, or Demar...and the team had been next man upping for weeks and weeks, months even, and finally burned out.

However, knowing it’s short-lived, it’s almost like, meh - it’s ok (not verbally, but in terms of energy, and attitude). We’ll be back to normal. This isn’t us. We’ll turn it back on when we’re whole. We saw resilience vs Denver, but I didn’t expect that to fade this quickly with this group.
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#117 » by Almost Retired » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:09 pm

BloodyQ wrote:Looking at the upcoming schedule.....it looks bad.

Detroit is probably the only guaranteed win....they could easily lose the rest of those games.


And they just lost Jerami Grant indefinitely.
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#118 » by jc23 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:19 pm

From my understanding Vuc was a Heat killer during his time with Orlando, wonder what some heat lurkers think about his current game vs what they saw in Orlando. Hopefully he is just in a long funk, usually shooting ability is something that ages well with players that have shown consistency with their shot.
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#119 » by ChettheJet » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:36 pm

Going back this was the kind of night when Michael would have poured in 50 and they would have won because somebody else had the 20 that made the difference. My hope for last night was that Zach would spend half the time scoring 35 and act as a decoy in between and 3-4 other guys would have scored 15 and that would be enough to win. Oh well nobody shot well enough to get 15

Vuc seems like all of his shots are 4-6 inches off, either left or right or too long or too short but it's not for lack of getting great looks right were the plays are designed for him to be. Exactly why that is who knows.

Troy Brown jr played well, except for shooting the ball. He was there to contest for rebounds, got some, passed the ball better than he has the past few games, maybe he is getting used to where people are. He played pretty well on defense kept his man in front of him and switched well I hope Patrick Williams watches tape of this game because Brown started most plays behind the arc on the weak side but as the play developed moved into the lane to contest the rebound or to get an interior feed for a layup/dunk. Brown didn't close on that much but PW has more strength and could make a difference. This would be different that PW normally taking off from that corner to get back on defense.
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#120 » by bearadonisdna » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:43 pm

Wingy wrote:
FriedRise wrote:I think COVID is the bigger problem, but Vooch’s sharp decline is certainly up there.

But shame on the league for not postponing this game. That team out there tonight wouldn’t be able to beat Detroit. Until we get some people back, it’ll be Ls across the chest.


I agree with the league being irresponsible from a health standpoint, but not from a competitive standpoint.

With basically 4/5ths of our starting lineup that still includes Zach/Vuc, we shouldn’t be out classed so badly against a squad missing their two best players, and several rotation pieces too. The level to which the board is using covid as an excuse is crazy to me considering what Miami was missing too.

Vuc was bad (again). Dead horse, take some more punishment. I have slim hope he turns it around late, but unfortunately I think we’re seeing the cliff some rightfully feared. If he played “normal,” this, and many other games are a completely different story.

Zach was hot, but unable to really put any imprint on the game outside of hot shooting. Another game against the Heat where he was more than happy to take lots of long jumpers. Basically lazy shots for him as he can get those anytime, against anyone. I scrutinize Zach to a higher standard as our theoretical best player, and lone hope for a true star, so I’m often times more interested in how he plays than results...watching his evolution (or lack there of) over time. To be fair, they ran lots of doubles at him, but that’s what he’s going to see at his caliber.

Lonzo also stood out. He’s a darling for his defense, and rightfully so. But his offense really is strictly as a role player on that end in the half court. Strong spot up 3s, and I don’t know what else against a set defense. Seems very dubious how much he will impact playoff games.

Bright side is I can write that last sentence, and we will get healthier sooner than later.


Zach was fantastic . He had mvp like numbers last night. His only criticism is he started 6 minutes too late.

Oh the bulls were down 12 already. Like give the guy a break , he is not supposed to think the whole team is gonna let him down .

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