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NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22.

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Young
27
16%
Carter
42
25%
Porter
75
44%
Bridges
15
9%
Knox
6
4%
Sexton
5
3%
 
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#161 » by tunit213 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:20 am

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tunit213 wrote:Well yeah Im a Porter supporter but comparing him to Durant is wrong. HIs handles and quickness at the same age aren't equivalent at all. But that's okay, Im not expecting him to be a top 2 player in the NBA. But I will say Porter has a chance to be a 25 ppg scorer in the NBA. He is that gifted offensively especially for his height. I think people lose sight of how tall this kid is and how he can still grow. What he can do at that height is pretty impressive, he is basically 6'11". Look how Durant killed the Cavs and Rockets by pulling up for easy Js over his defender using his height advantage. Yes Porter doesnt have the wingspan of Durant but coming out of college he did measure taller than Durant.

Durant- 6'10 in shoes
MPJ- 6'10 ¾" in shoes


25 point scorer? Why do you think that? I ask because there is usually around or less than 10 players every season who scores 25 points per game. Point being, you need usually be a top tier player if he were to be one, and like you said, he doesn't have the handles or quickness.

I think he has the opportunity to be a scorer, but unlike you, I could see him being a 15-19 point scorer relatively quickly, but he won't ever be a top level scorer unless he improves his handles significantly.


Did you not read my post before replying lol. We were comparing him to Durant. I bolded them for you to help you understand better.

-Doesnt have the same quickness and handles as DURANT (a top 2 player in this league.) But he does have good quickness and handles for a guy that is pushing 6'11".

- CHANCE. I said chance... I can't say that about anyone else in this draft class. Why many quotes from teams came out saying his offensive repetoire was impressive.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#162 » by chitowndish » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:24 am

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Post#163 » by tunit213 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:28 am

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He looked like a man amongst boys lol.
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Post#164 » by johnnyvann840 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:31 am

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He might as well be in an empty gym. Goodness look at the competition. A below average high school team devoid of a player who could even play in college. Also, watch him closely when he dribbles. Never get away with that in D1 college, or even against a good high school player/team, let alone the NBA.
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Post#165 » by johnnyvann840 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:33 am

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He looked like a man amongst boys lol.


Well, he pretty much is. Who is he playing against? :lol: That is some funny shiiiit.
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Post#166 » by chitowndish » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:34 am

The guy that was guarding him was just as big but what impressed me the most was his passing. For a guy that is a black hole he was firing a lot of really nice full court and drive and kick passes. Also it isn't like anybody in the NBA is going to be able to stop those shots either. Guy 6' 10" pulling those moves he'll be able to get all of that in the NBA no matter who is guarding him.
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Post#167 » by wonderboy2 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:35 am

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Many of us will do that. Many won't. And they'll be waiting for the pick to fail.

Time to bring up one of my favorite draft night posts, repeated often "Noah will never play center in the NBA". Not to mention the trashing Taj took.


The Markkanen pick was also pretty hated.


Good thing I was one of the only ones here who loved Lauri. I also was a big supporter immediately after the Noah pick. And I was one of the only ones who knew anything about Taj and loved that pick too. I'm not always right, but I did love all three of those guys and you can check the record on that.

I loved the Markannan pick. I was one of the few. I was defending Markannan all last summer. I also had Mitchell rated above Monk last year. Not to toot my own horn but I like my track record with evaluating prospects.
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Post#168 » by johnnyvann840 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:37 am

^^^Also, btw, that 52 pt Senior Night video has been posted waayyyyy more than the two I responded to. That is about the 12th time somebody has posted that.... in just the last few days.
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Post#169 » by chitowndish » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:37 am

Ehh I've seen the video of his bad game spammed more than anything on here.
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Post#170 » by nomorezorro » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:38 am

chitowndish wrote:Also it isn't like anybody in the NBA is going to be able to stop those shots either. Guy 6' 10" pulling those moves he'll be able to get all of that in the NBA no matter who is guarding him.


this is more or less the crux of his appeal. you're assuming the tall athletic guy who can shoot is going to find ways to get his shot off

i understand if that's not enough for people to draft him as high as we're picking. but i think this is a fairly simple perspective to digest, even if you strongly disagree with it.
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Post#171 » by tunit213 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:38 am

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He might as well be in an empty gym. Goodness look at the competition. A below average high school team devoid of a player who could even play in college. Also, watch him closely when he dribbles. Never get away with that in D1 college, or even against a good high school player/team, let alone the NBA.


Still impressive. Not anyone can put up 52 and 23 in a game. Basketball looks very natural to him.
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Post#172 » by contestedlayups » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:44 am

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Post#173 » by tunit213 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:44 am

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He looked like a man amongst boys lol.


Well, he pretty much is. Who is he playing against? :lol: That is some funny shiiiit.


So he has a bad game, he sucks. He has a good game, well look at the players he's playing against. The guy just cant win can he.
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Post#174 » by johnnyvann840 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:45 am

Like I said it may as well have been Nathan Hale against 5 chairs. That team was that awful. Pathetic. Some of the worst varsity high school players I've EVER seen and that is not exaggerating. Schools usually always schedule their senior night against a cream puff they are guaranteed to throttle. At least they used to.
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Post#175 » by Indomitable » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:51 am

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I didn't see anything worrying in that video. Not saying we should take much from it to begin with, but he looked fine in that video. A typical NBA talent taking advantage of his physical skills and playing lackadaisical defense. Pretty much par for the course really.

Can't deny he has a nice jumper and solid handles.


Did you watch the whole thing. How can you not deny his handle and J from that game? His handles suck bad. His shot looks pretty awful too. His defense is otherworldly bad. And look at the kids he's playing against other than Bagley. He gets blown by by a couple of no name kids who are working at Burger King right now. The only three guys in the game who anybody has ever heard of were MPJ, Jontay and Marvin Bagley. Porter should have been as dominating as Bagley was. Bagley looks like a star and jumps out at you. MPJ wasn't even noticeable until the last couple of minutes.


The first 15 minutes I thought Porter took what was available and though simple found the open guy. I counted 3 assist might of been another one I missed but def had 3. Look I get if you don’t like him as you don’t need to agree with people but to call people trolling because they don’t agree with you is pretty immature.

I like him and will be the first to admit I was wrong. in the draft it’s all a crap shoot. I don’t see this draft as a LBJ draft or even a Derrick Rose draft. What I mean is 1-7 is good for me, but no one separates themselves and it’s really in the eye of the beholder.

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Post#176 » by Chitownbulls » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:55 am

Dont over think it...take MPJ if he's available at 7.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#177 » by NecessaryEvil » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:27 am

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johnnyvann840 wrote:
Did you watch the whole thing. How can you not deny his handle and J from that game? His handles suck bad. His shot looks pretty awful too. His defense is otherworldly bad. And look at the kids he's playing against other than Bagley. He gets blown by by a couple of no name kids who are working at Burger King right now. The only three guys in the game who anybody has ever heard of were MPJ, Jontay and Marvin Bagley. Porter should have been as dominating as Bagley was. Bagley looks like a star and jumps out at you. MPJ wasn't even noticeable until the last couple of minutes.


The first 15 minutes I thought Porter took what was available and though simple found the open guy. I counted 3 assist might of been another one I missed but def had 3. Look I get if you don’t like him as you don’t need to agree with people but to call people trolling because they don’t agree with you is pretty immature.

I like him and will be the first to admit I was wrong. in the draft it’s all a crap shoot. I don’t see this draft as a LBJ draft or even a Derrick Rose draft. What I mean is 1-7 is good for me, but no one separates themselves and it’s really in the eye of the beholder.

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Nah, nobody has attacked J on the board, he's just been incredibly and HIGHLY annoying in his dislike for MPJ. Johnny is still my guy but even my friends and real life can irritate the hell out of me.

There's no reason to keep pounding on this thing. You're not going to convince anyone to NOT like him so just ease up bro lol

I'm not found of calling people out, calling them weird or things of that nature because we aren't in agreeance on a prospect.

It's just not cool

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Post#178 » by RedBulls23 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:35 am

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chitowndish wrote:Also it isn't like anybody in the NBA is going to be able to stop those shots either. Guy 6' 10" pulling those moves he'll be able to get all of that in the NBA no matter who is guarding him.


this is more or less the crux of his appeal. you're assuming the tall athletic guy who can shoot is going to find ways to get his shot off

i understand if that's not enough for people to draft him as high as we're picking. but i think this is a fairly simple perspective to digest, even if you strongly disagree with it.

My concerns with him are his back, his footspeed to play the 3 in the NBA, and his handles and how much better he can get.

If the Bulls draft him, I'm going to assume that his back checks out because they are known to pass on red flag players (think Denuan Blair and Brandon Roy). So the only thing that will be of concern is his footspeed and ability to create for himself and others. Time will tell.

I for the record don't see a superstar in him, but I can understand why some may. Also I won't be mad if the Bulls draft him, because I do feel like Pax has at the very least earned the trust drafting in the lottery. He's only had 1 miss drafting in the top 10. And I'm open to seeing how his game plays out on this level before I truly judge him.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#179 » by RedBulls23 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:36 am

I still think the only guy that I'd not be too happy about drafting is Trae Young.
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Post#180 » by dumbell78 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:37 am

Anybody know if the draft starts right away or are they gonna BS for an hour before the clock starts? I'm working from home but need to squeeze in a video conference at 9am here in Sydney.
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