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Re: If we target a #1 option via trade this offseason, who would you go after? 

Post#21 » by League Circles » Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:33 pm

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The Suns currently aren't even a play-in team with a healthy Kevin Durant. And no, the play-in race in the west is not that tough.

Well of course they're not, their team has insane construction and redundancy

And ours doesn't? Even in a hypothetical post-KD trade?

Depends on the deal. Our roster is certainly much more sanely balanced than theirs, despite the overall talent difference.
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Re: If we target a #1 option via trade this offseason, who would you go after? 

Post#22 » by GoBlue72391 » Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:34 pm

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League Circles wrote:Well of course they're not, their team has insane construction and redundancy

And ours doesn't? Even in a hypothetical post-KD trade?

Depends on the deal. Our roster is certainly much more sanely balanced than theirs, despite the overall talent difference.

We have like 47 guards. And even with KD we wouldn't be a good team, certainly not good enough to contend for a championship.
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Post#23 » by League Circles » Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:47 pm

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GoBlue72391 wrote:And ours doesn't? Even in a hypothetical post-KD trade?

Depends on the deal. Our roster is certainly much more sanely balanced than theirs, despite the overall talent difference.

We have like 47 guards. And even with KD we wouldn't be a good team, certainly not good enough to contend for a championship.

maybe we should wait for Newell to emerge.

The only guy that matters on this roster that can't play forward is Coby. Everyone else is either decent at forward (Ball, Ayo) or they're outright better there.
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Re: If we target a #1 option via trade this offseason, who would you go after? 

Post#24 » by kodo » Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:52 pm

Looked up how much of an upgrade KD would be over Lavine.

KD: 26 points 4.2 assists per 36 on 63.8% TS.
Lavine: 25 points 4.8 assists per 36 on 63.7% TS.
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Re: If we target a #1 option via trade this offseason, who would you go after? 

Post#25 » by jnrjr79 » Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:56 pm

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League Circles wrote:God forbid they try to win a championship with an all time great.


Old KD and whatever is left of the Bulls roster probably fights for a play-in spot at best. Even Prine KD couldn’t win a title as the #1 option let alone now.

I wasn't suggesting that there is a realistic deal to be made that would be wise for us, but I'd sure make an offer.

Prime KD won two titles as the best player and Finals MVP lol.


I'm pretty sure people would be supportive of trading for prime KD.
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Post#26 » by League Circles » Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:00 pm

kodo wrote:Looked up how much of an upgrade KD would be over Lavine.

KD: 26 points 4.2 assists per 36 on 63.8% TS.
Lavine: 25 points 4.8 assists per 36 on 63.7% TS.

Lol, if we just also start THT and Sanogo and use their per 36 minutes to add to the total we should win the title. Simple math.
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Post#27 » by Donkedave » Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:11 pm

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kodo wrote:Looked up how much of an upgrade KD would be over Lavine.

KD: 26 points 4.2 assists per 36 on 63.8% TS.
Lavine: 25 points 4.8 assists per 36 on 63.7% TS.

Lol, if we just also start THT and Sanogo and use their per 36 minutes to add to the total we should win the title. Simple math.


If only Sanogo was on our list still! Damn AK :D
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Post#28 » by BullChit » Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:36 pm

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Yeah AK would offer 10.


...and it wouldn't be enough.


I don't know man... Thunder love them some excessive amount of picks.
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Re: If we target a #1 option via trade this offseason, who would you go after? 

Post#29 » by Red8911 » Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:38 pm

Booker has said that he wants to stay in Phoenix no matter what and KD is old at this point to sacrifice any future assets or young players. Not worth the trouble to be honest.

I guess the only #1 target left that MIGHT be available is Giannis. He too though is risky as I’m not sure how he will perform in his 30s.

Guy still can’t shoot and relies heavily on his athleticism/strength but still dominates and would easily make this team top 3 in the East. My concern is that again he could slow down sooner rather than later.
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Re: If we target a #1 option via trade this offseason, who would you go after? 

Post#30 » by Red8911 » Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:40 pm

BullChit wrote:
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Yeah AK would offer 10.


...and it wouldn't be enough.


I don't know man... Thunder love them some excessive amount of picks.

That team has so many picks that they don’t know what to do with them and will probably go to waste.
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Post#31 » by TheSuzerain » Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:45 pm

Embiid and Zion are basically the only two that makes sense. And both would be us buying a devalued asset and just hoping to get lucky.

Which honestly is probably a better approach than our current "plan".
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Post#32 » by Dan Z » Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:47 pm

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BullChit wrote:
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...and it wouldn't be enough.


I don't know man... Thunder love them some excessive amount of picks.

That team has so many picks that they don’t know what to do with them and will probably go to waste.


It's a good problem to have.
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Re: If we target a #1 option via trade this offseason, who would you go after? 

Post#33 » by jnrjr79 » Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:49 pm

Red8911 wrote:Booker has said that he wants to stay in Phoenix no matter what and KD is old at this point to sacrifice any future assets or young players. Not worth the trouble to be honest.

I guess the only #1 target left that MIGHT be available is Giannis. He too though is risky as I’m not sure how he will perform in his 30s.

Guy still can’t shoot and relies heavily on his athleticism/strength but still dominates and would easily make this team top 3 in the East. My concern is that again he could slow down sooner rather than later.


Yeah, Giannis is the answer here. But to do that, you'd need the Bucks to flame out in the playoffs and Giannis to demand a trade. Even then, I'm not sure the Bucks would entertain it. It would be worth trying like hell to do it, though.
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Re: If we target a #1 option via trade this offseason, who would you go after? 

Post#34 » by WindyCityBorn » Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:55 pm

kodo wrote:Would you trade for Embiid or Paul George?



Hell no. Those would be Bulls type moves though. Getting another washed up star.
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Re: If we target a #1 option via trade this offseason, who would you go after? 

Post#35 » by WindyCityBorn » Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:55 pm

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League Circles wrote:Off the top of my head probably Durant. He's probably the most available elite talent even though he'll probably only play a few more years. Easily one of the very most talented players of all time and has proven what he can do to win titles.


Trade for KD and extend him to a max at age 37. That would totally be a classic Bulls move.

God forbid they try to win a championship with an all time great.


KD has never led a team to championship and never will.
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Re: If we target a #1 option via trade this offseason, who would you go after? 

Post#36 » by WindyCityBorn » Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:57 pm

League Circles wrote:
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League Circles wrote:God forbid they try to win a championship with an all time great.


Old KD and whatever is left of the Bulls roster probably fights for a play-in spot at best. Even Prine KD couldn’t win a title as the #1 option let alone now.

I wasn't suggesting that there is a realistic deal to be made that would be wise for us, but I'd sure make an offer.

Prime KD won two titles as the best player and Finals MVP lol.


He had never led a team to championship. Those were Steph’s teams. He isn’t a leader.
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Re: If we target a #1 option via trade this offseason, who would you go after? 

Post#37 » by Dan Z » Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:01 pm

League Circles wrote:
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League Circles wrote:Depends on the deal. Our roster is certainly much more sanely balanced than theirs, despite the overall talent difference.

We have like 47 guards. And even with KD we wouldn't be a good team, certainly not good enough to contend for a championship.

maybe we should wait for Newell to emerge.

The only guy that matters on this roster that can't play forward is Coby. Everyone else is either decent at forward (Ball, Ayo) or they're outright better there.


Obviously Newell (or whoever the Bulls pick at 8-10) are unknown at the NBA level at this point. That's what prospect are and you hope they develop/grow with the team. But you already know this...

If the Bulls trade for Durant (even though I think Phoenix can do better than what the Bulls would offer) is this the team going into next season?
Durant, Giddey, Ayo, Huerter, Carter, Collins, Patrick Williams, Terry, Phillips and Matas.

That looks like a play-in team to me. After that season Durant is up for a new contract. Would you be willing to pay a 37 year old Durant (at that point he'd be soon to be 38) 50 something million a year? I'm sure he'd ask for two years at a minimum.
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Re: If we target a #1 option via trade this offseason, who would you go after? 

Post#38 » by WindyCityBorn » Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:05 pm

Commit to youth. No more shortcut garbage. We don’t have the assets to trade for a superstar in their prime.
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Re: If we target a #1 option via trade this offseason, who would you go after? 

Post#39 » by League Circles » Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:08 pm

WindyCityBorn wrote:
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Old KD and whatever is left of the Bulls roster probably fights for a play-in spot at best. Even Prine KD couldn’t win a title as the #1 option let alone now.

I wasn't suggesting that there is a realistic deal to be made that would be wise for us, but I'd sure make an offer.

Prime KD won two titles as the best player and Finals MVP lol.


He had never led a team to championship. Those were Steph’s teams. He isn’t a leader.


LMFAO. He may not be an ideal "leader", but he's been a better player than Steph, an all time great. Joined a warriors team that didn't win the title and voila they won two straight. More finals MVPs with Steph than Steph has in his career.
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Re: If we target a #1 option via trade this offseason, who would you go after? 

Post#40 » by League Circles » Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:16 pm

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GoBlue72391 wrote:We have like 47 guards. And even with KD we wouldn't be a good team, certainly not good enough to contend for a championship.

maybe we should wait for Newell to emerge.

The only guy that matters on this roster that can't play forward is Coby. Everyone else is either decent at forward (Ball, Ayo) or they're outright better there.


Obviously Newell (or whoever the Bulls pick at 8-10) are unknown at the NBA level at this point. That's what prospect are and you hope they develop/grow with the team. But you already know this...

If the Bulls trade for Durant (even though I think Phoenix can do better than what the Bulls would offer) is this the team going into next season?
Durant, Giddey, Ayo, Huerter, Carter, Collins, Patrick Williams, Terry, Phillips and Matas.

That looks like a play-in team to me. After that season Durant is up for a new contract. Would you be willing to pay a 37 year old Durant (at that point he'd be soon to be 38) 50 something million a year? I'm sure he'd ask for two years at a minimum.


You're like 8 steps ahead of the topic question. It was "who would you go after", not "who would you go after that the Bulls could and would get for a guesswork package that then will be a contender with and then what about his extension?"

I think KD MIGHT be the best plausibly available talent. Doesn't mean I think the Bulls could or should trade for him. The devil is in the details. But in a vacuum, he's still a great player to have, even at a very high salary, even for only a few years. I don't adhere to the "build a generic championship roster through a sinusoidal model over the next 8 years" model.

I do actually already know that Asa Newell will never sniff what Kevin Durant has done.
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