Dan Z wrote:
He sounded really excited about his ability to handle the basketball.
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Jcool0 wrote:aguifs wrote:Do we have a friggin plan?
If the Bulls do, you would be complaining to much to ever hear it.

WookieOnRitalin wrote:Game 1. It's where the series is truly 0-0.

nomorezorro wrote:i said this in one of the pre-draft threads, but williams actually feels like a relatively *safe* pick for a 19-year-old who didn't start his freshman year. a big defender who projects as a solid-to-good shooter is a pretty soft landing as far as prospects go.
conversely, i don't really see a *ton* of upside? i can see him being a very useful role player, but unless fsu really asked him to compartmentalize his game, i would sum up my assessment of his non-shooting offensive game as "passing skills could be alright, shot creation skills not really worth commenting on." he is young, though, so i'm not gonna act like development on that front is impossible
i'm also kind of thrown by the types of nba players who fit a similar profile to him. i'm thinking he's going to land somewhere on the continuum of, like
james johnson
jae crowder
the morris twins
robert covington
jerami grant
jaylen brown
and you're really banking on him landing super high on that continuum if you're picking him four. whichever morris twin happens to be good at any given moment is a useful player — a good, big body defender who can shoot. he's also a player who signs for the MLE and is on the move constantly.
you can't just get a good morris twin out of this pick and be happy with it. (well, maybe you can, considering the draft.)
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nomorezorro wrote:i said this in one of the pre-draft threads, but williams actually feels like a relatively *safe* pick for a 19-year-old who didn't start his freshman year. a big defender who projects as a solid-to-good shooter is a pretty soft landing as far as prospects go.
conversely, i don't really see a *ton* of upside? i can see him being a very useful role player, but unless fsu really asked him to compartmentalize his game, i would sum up my assessment of his non-shooting offensive game as "passing skills could be alright, shot creation skills not really worth commenting on." he is young, though, so i'm not gonna act like development on that front is impossible
i'm also kind of thrown by the types of nba players who fit a similar profile to him. i'm thinking he's going to land somewhere on the continuum of, like
james johnson
jae crowder
the morris twins
robert covington
jerami grant
jaylen brown
and you're really banking on him landing super high on that continuum if you're picking him four. whichever morris twin happens to be good at any given moment is a useful player — a good, big body defender who can shoot. he's also a player who signs for the MLE and is on the move constantly.
you can't just get a good morris twin out of this pick and be happy with it. (well, maybe you can, considering the draft.)


wayoftheroad wrote:We’re getting bodied by Moochie Norris lmao

nomorezorro wrote:i said this in one of the pre-draft threads, but williams actually feels like a relatively *safe* pick for a 19-year-old who didn't start his freshman year. a big defender who projects as a solid-to-good shooter is a pretty soft landing as far as prospects go.
conversely, i don't really see a *ton* of upside? i can see him being a very useful role player, but unless fsu really asked him to compartmentalize his game, i would sum up my assessment of his non-shooting offensive game as "passing skills could be alright, shot creation skills not really worth commenting on." he is young, though, so i'm not gonna act like development on that front is impossible
i'm also kind of thrown by the types of nba players who fit a similar profile to him. i'm thinking he's going to land somewhere on the continuum of, like
james johnson
jae crowder
the morris twins
robert covington
jerami grant
jaylen brown
and you're really banking on him landing super high on that continuum if you're picking him four. whichever morris twin happens to be good at any given moment is a useful player — a good, big body defender who can shoot. he's also a player who signs for the MLE and is on the move constantly.
you can't just get a good morris twin out of this pick and be happy with it. (well, maybe you can, considering the draft.)


Thanks, and I guess yes my question could have been, can he play with the current bigs.fleet wrote:kyrv wrote:We need a poll, is he a wing, a 4, or the rare combo f?
Have to admit I like the pick less if he's a 4.fleet wrote:FSU used him as a role player. Does not mean he can't do things outside of that role. His attitude is **** ing phenomenal if you ask me. He never complained or acted entitled for a larger role. And he had a case if he went there too. Team guy all the way.
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He’ll guard big wings and help side in the paint. Takes up the slack from Lauri and Zach. Which is as far as the declination of positions goes these days. Defined on defense. He’s got work to do finding his role on offense.
Williams
Lauri
WCJ
White
Zach
Lineup needs playmaker help. Too early in his career for that. But as a rim runner, garbage man open 3 guy, he might be able to handle that off the bench right now.
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umfan83 wrote:kodo wrote:TankForAyton wrote:When is the last time a non-starting raw player like this panned out? Just confused.
I think it might have been Zach Lavine. IIRC he didn't start either.
yeah it took what 3 years to become a regular contributor
erlim wrote:D_GoLow wrote:Peeps need to chill.
Williams will get to play and contribute immediately.
At 19? As a bench warmer in college? Naw, don’t talk yourself into it, he’s a nobody with no experience. First year, here he’ll just sit on the bench behind Otto Porter and provide nothing.
WookieOnRitalin wrote:Game 1. It's where the series is truly 0-0.