2025 Free Agency News/Rumors

NecessaryEvil · Post #341 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:33 am

Dominator83 wrote:
NecessaryEvil wrote:Hoping for Vooch and P Will trades …

In the words of Metallica: Waiting for the day that never comes

Hoping

Not waiting my friend

Infinity2152 · Post #342 » by **Infinity2152** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:33 am

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
Infinity2152 wrote:Warriors lost Looney, Bucks lost Lopez, Hornets lost Williams and Nurkic, Hawks lost Capela. Vucevic deal may not be as dead as people think if we just wait a minute.

If Vuc’s market sputters, I’d kick the tires on moving Jalen Smith for an asset instead. It’s AK, so obviously lol, but that feels like a sensible pivot.

Would hate if it came to that, but I agree. Would also really hate letting Vucevic and Collins both expire and getting nothing back though.

Post #343 » by **AshyLarrysDiaper** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:35 am

Infinity2152 wrote:
AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
Infinity2152 wrote:Warriors lost Looney, Bucks lost Lopez, Hornets lost Williams and Nurkic, Hawks lost Capela. Vucevic deal may not be as dead as people think if we just wait a minute.

If Vuc’s market sputters, I’d kick the tires on moving Jalen Smith for an asset instead. It’s AK, so obviously lol, but that feels like a sensible pivot.

Would hate if it came to that, but I agree. Would also really hate letting Vucevic and Collins both expire and getting nothing back though.

I would keep both on the block through the deadline. We can always pick up a big body to play in their stead.

Muzbar · Post #344 » by **Muzbar** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:37 am

Taurean Prince to the Bucks.

2/7.1m

aguifs · Post #345 » by **aguifs** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:38 am

Dominator83 wrote:
NecessaryEvil wrote:Hoping for Vooch and P Will trades …

In the words of Metallica: Waiting for the day that never comes

Nice

aguifs · Post #346 » by **aguifs** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:39 am

Continuity. I see Vuce as our starter

Muzbar · Post #347 » by **Muzbar** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:44 am

Infinity2152 wrote:
AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
Infinity2152 wrote:Warriors lost Looney, Bucks lost Lopez, Hornets lost Williams and Nurkic, Hawks lost Capela. Vucevic deal may not be as dead as people think if we just wait a minute.

If Vuc’s market sputters, I’d kick the tires on moving Jalen Smith for an asset instead. It’s AK, so obviously lol, but that feels like a sensible pivot.

Would hate if it came to that, but I agree. Would also really hate letting Vucevic and Collins both expire and getting nothing back though.

Don't worry.

AK will just sign them to extensions...

NecessaryEvil · Post #348 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:48 am

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NecessaryEvil · Post #349 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:51 am

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Muzbar · Post #350 » by **Muzbar** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:52 am

NecessaryEvil wrote:

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Coby for Mathurin?

Peelboy · Post #351 » by **Peelboy** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:54 am

Muzbar wrote:
NecessaryEvil wrote:

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Coby for Mathurin?

That’s an AK move, one for one. More proven for younger with some limitations. I actually like Mathurin, but any other GM would say Coby for Benedict+1-2FRPs. AK will do a straight swap after rejecting Coby for multiple FRP deals.

Muzbar · Post #352 » by **Muzbar** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:58 am

Peelboy wrote:
Muzbar wrote:
NecessaryEvil wrote:

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Coby for Mathurin?

That’s an AK move, one for one. More proven for younger with some limitations. I actually like Mathurin, but any other GM would say Coby for Benedict+1-2FRPs. AK will do a straight swap after rejecting Coby for multiple FRP deals.

It's 100% an AK move.

Trade proven player for younger player in final year of rookie contract.

MissileMike · Post #353 » by **MissileMike** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:01 am

Muzbar wrote:
Peelboy wrote:
Muzbar wrote:Coby for Mathurin?

That’s an AK move, one for one. More proven for younger with some limitations. I actually like Mathurin, but any other GM would say Coby for Benedict+1-2FRPs. AK will do a straight swap after rejecting Coby for multiple FRP deals.

It's 100% an AK move.

Trade proven player for younger player in final year of rookie contract.

Except, in this case, the proven player is in the final year of his contract and will become an unrestricted free agent. So Coby is a rental.

nomorezorro · Post #354 » by **nomorezorro** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:04 am

mathurin for coby doesn't even make sense as an upside play. sure, mathurin is a couple of years younger, but that's offset by the fact that he's, yknow, worse. coby's post-deadline run might be a mirage, but it was fringe all star level. i'd take a 25 year old who did that over a 23 year old who's capable of putting together a great game every now and then.

it also doesn't work as a "spin a guy off for assets before his contract is up" move because mathurin also has to get paid after this year

Muzbar · Post #355 » by **Muzbar** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:05 am

MissileMike wrote:
Muzbar wrote:
Peelboy wrote:That’s an AK move, one for one. More proven for younger with some limitations. I actually like Mathurin, but any other GM would say Coby for Benedict+1-2FRPs. AK will do a straight swap after rejecting Coby for multiple FRP deals.

It's 100% an AK move.

Trade proven player for younger player in final year of rookie contract.

Except, in this case, the proven player is in the final year of his contract and will become an unrestricted free agent. So Coby is a rental.

Just like Caruso was.

Chi town · Post #356 » by **Chi town** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:07 am

Pacers know they will really struggle without Hali.

No way they get Coby. They are asset strapped.

sco · Post #357 » by **sco** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:08 am

MissileMike wrote:
Muzbar wrote:
Peelboy wrote:That’s an AK move, one for one. More proven for younger with some limitations. I actually like Mathurin, but any other GM would say Coby for Benedict+1-2FRPs. AK will do a straight swap after rejecting Coby for multiple FRP deals.

It's 100% an AK move.

Trade proven player for younger player in final year of rookie contract.

Except, in this case, the proven player is in the final year of his contract and will become an unrestricted free agent. So Coby is a rental.

My question is how many 1sts we could get, but also how valuable will they be given IND's success of late.

burlydee · Post #358 » by **burlydee** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:09 am

nomorezorro wrote:mathurin for coby doesn't even make sense as an upside play. sure, mathurin is a couple of years younger, but that's offset by the fact that he's, yknow, worse. coby's post-deadline run might be a mirage, but it was fringe all star level. i'd take a 25 year old who did that over a 23 year old who's capable of putting together a great game every now and then.

it also doesn't work as a "spin a guy off for assets before his contract is up" move because mathurin also has to get paid after this year

You guys are getting mad about a fake trade. Lmao.

ThisGuyFawkes · Post #359 » by **ThisGuyFawkes** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:09 am

Yeah, I don't see the "Coby to Pacers" rumor. They already have cap issues and Coby is due for a big contract. Unless they think that Hali is going to be back soon and they can go all-in next season for a championship.

Even then, I think they have to give up more than Mathurin. Coby has improved every year and played exceptionally well after the Lavine trade.

nomorezorro · Post #360 » by **nomorezorro** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:11 am

burlydee wrote:
nomorezorro wrote:mathurin for coby doesn't even make sense as an upside play. sure, mathurin is a couple of years younger, but that's offset by the fact that he's, yknow, worse. coby's post-deadline run might be a mirage, but it was fringe all star level. i'd take a 25 year old who did that over a 23 year old who's capable of putting together a great game every now and then.

it also doesn't work as a "spin a guy off for assets before his contract is up" move because mathurin also has to get paid after this year

You guys are getting mad about a fake trade. Lmao.

i'm actually being incredibly calm...emitting unmistakably cool vibes in my posts filled with posed rationality...