Melo 15: The End Is Nigh

WinCity · Post #361 » by **WinCity** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:31 pm

coldfish wrote:Butterfly effect: If they didn't put the Derrick Rose rule in the last CBA, the Bulls would be able to offer Melo a full max contract without doing anything.

No, because they would have used the extra space to pay Kirk more, as a reward for his "scrappiness".

bullsaficianado · Post #362 » by **bullsaficianado** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:32 pm

I did think it was odd that Melo had Drose workout for him. I hope he is serious about becoming a Bull and less about staying a Knick. If he doesn't want to be here fine, but if this free agency trip is all to see what other teams are up to, it's a low move imo.

kurtatx · Post #363 » by **kurtatx** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:32 pm

RememberLu wrote:
coldfish wrote:Butterfly effect: If they didn't put the Derrick Rose rule in the last CBA, the Bulls would be able to offer Melo a full max contract without doing anything.

That Derrick Rose extension has been nothing but a huge mistake so far

Honestly, I'm not sure many GMs wouldn't have done the same thing. I don't think anyone honestly thought two consecutive injured seasons were coming.

NecessaryEvil · Post #364 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:32 pm

kurtatx wrote:
RememberLu wrote:
coldfish wrote:Butterfly effect: If they didn't put the Derrick Rose rule in the last CBA, the Bulls would be able to offer Melo a full max contract without doing anything.

That Derrick Rose extension has been nothing but a huge mistake so far

Honestly, I'm not sure many GMs wouldn't have done the same thing. I don't think anyone honestly tought two consecutive injured seasons were coming.

Exactly

Post #365 » by **HomoSapien** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:34 pm

What's interesting is how mum Lebron has been. It'd be something if things fall through there. If we lose out on Melo, it might be smart waiting to see what happens with LBJ before rushing into a Gasol signing.

kyrv · Post #366 » by **kyrv** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:34 pm

kurtatx wrote:
RememberLu wrote:
coldfish wrote:Butterfly effect: If they didn't put the Derrick Rose rule in the last CBA, the Bulls would be able to offer Melo a full max contract without doing anything.

That Derrick Rose extension has been nothing but a huge mistake so far

Honestly, I'm not sure many GMs wouldn't have done the same thing. I don't think anyone honestly thought two consecutive injured seasons were coming.

Correct. It was not a mistake. It was a no-brainer.

Jordan45822 · Post #367 » by **Jordan45822** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:34 pm

@Mike_Bresnahan: Lakers went Hollywood for part of their presentation to Carmelo. Biz team presented a short video done by "The Matrix" producer Joel Silver.

Red Larrivee · Post #368 » by **Red Larrivee** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:34 pm

kurtatx wrote:Honestly, I'm not sure many GMs wouldn't have done the same thing. I don't think anyone honestly thought two consecutive injured seasons were coming.

Nobody can predict that a 22-year-old PG coming off an MVP season would suffer two season ending surgeries in consecutive seasons.

It wasn't a mistake, it's just unfortunate. Rose was worth what he got. The Derrick Rose rule though did **** the team over.

Gregnice33 · Post #369 » by **Gregnice33** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:34 pm

coldfish wrote:Butterfly effect: If they didn't put the Derrick Rose rule in the last CBA, the Bulls would be able to offer Melo a full max contract without doing anything.

RememberLu · Post #370 » by **RememberLu** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:34 pm

kyrv wrote:
kurtatx wrote:
RememberLu wrote:
That Derrick Rose extension has been nothing but a huge mistake so far

Honestly, I'm not sure many GMs wouldn't have done the same thing. I don't think anyone honestly thought two consecutive injured seasons were coming.

Correct. It was not a mistake. It was a no-brainer.

it was a mistake with hindsight, as was the Boozer contract

Hokie · Post #371 » by **Hokie** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:34 pm

HomoSapien wrote:What's interesting is how mum Lebron has been. It'd be something if things fall through there. If we lose out on Melo, it might be smart waiting to see what happens with LBJ before rushing into a Gasol signing.

**** LeBron.

kyrv · Post #372 » by **kyrv** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:34 pm

HomoSapien wrote:What's interesting is how mum Lebron has been. It'd be something if things fall through there. If we lose out on Melo, it might be smart waiting to see what happens with LBJ before rushing into a Gasol signing.

Definite lack of scoops and info.

Adriano · Post #373 » by **Adriano** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:35 pm

HomoSapien wrote:What's interesting is how mum Lebron has been. It'd be something if things fall through there. If we lose out on Melo, it might be smart waiting to see what happens with LBJ before rushing into a Gasol signing.

You don't think Lebron can take his talents to wind city and play for the Chicago Bulls, right?

League Circles · Post #374 » by **League Circles** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:36 pm

I'm pretty sure that the Rose rule only allowed him to get 30% of the cap instead of 25% of it. If I'm correct, the 25% wouldn't allow us to be even remotely close to offering Melo his max deal without doing anything.

IrishBeatdown · Post #375 » by **IrishBeatdown** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:36 pm

HomoSapien wrote:What's interesting is how mum Lebron has been. It'd be something if things fall through there. If we lose out on Melo, it might be smart waiting to see what happens with LBJ before rushing into a Gasol signing.

I agree with this.

IcemanGervin · Post #376 » by **IcemanGervin** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:36 pm

Jordan45822 wrote:@Mike_Bresnahan: Lakers went Hollywood for part of their presentation to Carmelo. Biz team presented a short video done by "The Matrix" producer Joel Silver.

stuff like this seems like a tremendous waste of time and money

mikeyk · Post #377 » by **mikeyk** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:36 pm

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kyrv · Post #378 » by **kyrv** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:36 pm

RememberLu wrote:
kyrv wrote:
kurtatx wrote:
Honestly, I'm not sure many GMs wouldn't have done the same thing. I don't think anyone honestly thought two consecutive injured seasons were coming.

Correct. It was not a mistake. It was a no-brainer.

it was a mistake with hindsight, as was the Boozer contract

No.

Trying to low-ball him would have been a mistake and a PR nightmare.

Boozer was not a mistake either.

NecessaryEvil · Post #379 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:37 pm

HomoSapien wrote:What's interesting is how mum Lebron has been. It'd be something if things fall through there. If we lose out on Melo, it might be smart waiting to see what happens with LBJ before rushing into a Gasol signing.

Not sure why that would matter for us, he's not coming here.

Also not sure why people think happy athletes want to just pick up and move from city to city when one thing doesn't go there way.

LBJ is smart, their FO has a plan, they will execute. Instead of becoming angrier about the situation, I've become at peace with it. Riley is the best at what he does.

MAQ · Post #380 » by **MAQ** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:37 pm

Hokie wrote:
MAQ wrote:NT's theory actually sounds plausible to me.

It would explain Noah going around telling random people Melo's staying in NY at LAX earlier today...

Please explain to me how that crackpot theory explains Noah telling people that Melo is going to NY, if that actually did happen.

Because Melo would have recruited Noah to join up with him when his contract is over...It's how Noah knows he's staying...And it would explain why Noah doesn't give a **** telling randoms what's going on.

How confident fans are that we will sign Melo?