Curry and his nonsense again....

[Betta Bulleavit]

For those saying: 'I wish my boss would fire me and give me 7 million'. It's not the same thing unless you were going to make 7 million in the next year and a half for working. A more accurate example would be if your boss fired you and gave you a year and a half severance package.

Most people would probably not be happy for getting fired in this scenario. They'd be able to look at the bright side, but it still wouldn't be considered good news.

This isn't to say that I think we should have waited on firing Skiles for a different day to make him feel better. I was all for firing him ASAP, and if we hadn't fired him yet, and were willing to on Christmas Eve then I was darn glad we did instead of waiting until the 26th.

Okay doug, I can see your point there. But considering what I have seen people at my workplace endure over the past couple of months, every single one of them would have been ecstatic if they could have recieved a year and a half severence package. Instead, they didnt get jack s**t and it happened the day before Thanksgiving. My point is that the Skiles situation is far different because his livelyhood didnt come crashing down when the Bulls fired him. The people that I just mentioned damn near lost everything. See the difference?

[DuckIII]

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Hey Duck, when is your birthday...I'm gonna go talk to your boss.

As long as you write a multi-million dollar guarantee into an employment contract for me, then I'm all for it.

[DuckIII]

You get to shake hands with a mod once you get 2000 posts.

Since you've met myself, DuckIII, and Slim (at the very least), you are already paid up for the big milestones of 2000, 5000, and 10000.

At 20000, you can hang out with Ben B or Coldfish.

I'll shake his hand anyway. He's going to be at my house this weekend to drink beer and shoot guns.

[dougthonus]

Okay doug, I can see your point there. But considering what I have seen people at my workplace endure over the past couple of months, every single one of them would have been ecstatic if they could have recieved a year and a half severence package. Instead, they didnt get jack s**t and it happened the day before Thanksgiving. My point is that the Skiles situation is far different because his livelyhood didnt come crashing down when the Bulls fired him. The people that I just mentioned damn near lost everything. See the difference?

I have not claimed that Skiles is screwed in any way. I've said that I would have fired him on Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, his birthday, or whatever. It just didn't matter to me. With that much money at stake, a franchise doesn't screw around.

I'm just pointing out a false analogy. People make it sound like Skiles is set for life only because of his firing when they say they'd take that much to be fired. When in fact, Skiles was set for life prior to his firing, and he was going to get this money no matter what. If he had worked for the next year and a half to get that 7 million dollars would people envy him any less for having it?

It's as if for some reason, people would love to be a coach who got fired and got 7 million dollars but would just hate to be a coach who had to work for a year and a half and get 7 million dollars.

My point is, the money he got for getting laid off is irrelevant when considering his personal feelings about being fired. The finances are separate because they were going to be about the same no matter what. It doesn't make me feel sorry for him. I might feel sorry for him if he did a better job coaching the team.

[fudgie]

"He's extremely hard on you, especially (when) you're going as hard as you can and he continues to push us,"

Did he just say what I think he just said?

Skiles put it best when he was asked about the timing of the firing "It's neither here nor there". It literally has nothing to do with anything. Skiles got his seven million but part of the reason why coaches get paid that kind of salary is because the job comes with a distinct lack of job security. That's the way this business is. You don't like it then cry me a river.

[DuckIII]

Thats right snake. As the old coaching saying goes "You get hired to be fired."

They all know the score.

[kyrv]

"He's extremely hard on you, especially (when) you're going as hard as you can and he continues to push us,"

Did he just say what I think he just said?

Skiles put it best when he was asked about the timing of the firing "It's neither here nor there". It literally has nothing to do with anything. Skiles got his seven million but part of the reason why coaches get paid that kind of salary is because the job comes with a distinct lack of job security. That's the way this business is. You don't like it then cry me a river.

Agreed, and to their credit, Skiles and his agent handled it with a lot of class.

Mostly though, have to point out, love the sig.

[Betta Bulleavit]

Okay doug, I can see your point there. But considering what I have seen people at my workplace endure over the past couple of months, every single one of them would have been ecstatic if they could have recieved a year and a half severence package. Instead, they didnt get jack s**t and it happened the day before Thanksgiving. My point is that the Skiles situation is far different because his livelyhood didnt come crashing down when the Bulls fired him. The people that I just mentioned damn near lost everything. See the difference?

I have not claimed that Skiles is screwed in any way. I've said that I would have fired him on Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, his birthday, or whatever. It just didn't matter to me. With that much money at stake, a franchise doesn't screw around.

I'm just pointing out a false analogy. People make it sound like Skiles is set for life only because of his firing when they say they'd take that much to be fired. When in fact, Skiles was set for life prior to his firing, and he was going to get this money no matter what. If he had worked for the next year and a half to get that 7 million dollars would people envy him any less for having it?

It's as if for some reason, people would love to be a coach who got fired and got 7 million dollars but would just hate to be a coach who had to work for a year and a half and get 7 million dollars.

My point is, the money he got for getting laid off is irrelevant when considering his personal feelings about being fired. The finances are separate because they were going to be about the same no matter what. It doesn't make me feel sorry for him. I might feel sorry for him if he did a better job coaching the team.

Understood. I didnt really take into account the whole emotional aspect of the firing. You are always going to have that when you are talking about job security in any capacity. I guess my point was aimed at those stating that it was wrong or "not classy" to fire him on Christmas eve. My feeling is that the emotional stress of it was going to be the same regardless of when it took place. But walking away with the remaining balance of your contract is more than what most common folks could say and for that reason, its hard for me to imagine Scott being really distraught about the whole thing. Thus, why should anyone else be distraught about it?

[airjordanair]

that heart thing i think now was overblown by cheap bulls organization... they saw a way to get him for cheap and went for it. i think lamarcus had the same heart issue didn't he? blazers didn't treat LA like bulls front office did with curry.

Apart from being on the rookie contract as mentioned, LA does not weigh 300 pounds, and look proned to a heart attack let alone anything else..

[moocow007]

hey eddie - putting up a double double aginst Pax would sting even worse than anything the press quotes from you.

think about that for a minute.

Not a double-double but what about 29 points, 8 rebounds, 4 blocks?

[king_k4life]

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Not a double-double but what about 29 points, 8 rebounds, 4 blocks?

[Rerisen]

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Not a double-double but what about 29 points, 8 rebounds, 4 blocks?

Now if only he wanted to show the rest of the NBA as much as he wanted to show Pax.

Bulls have been through it with Eddy. And I'm sure Knicks fans know the drill by now. He has seemingly a bust out or "he gets it!" type game one in every dozen, and people say why can't Eddy just play like this every game. And he never does. But at least he gets up to play his former team. Better than nothing I guess.

you're going as hard as you can

The fact that Eddy *can* stick it to his old team, really only serves to reinforce the original accusation that he doesn't go as hard as he can all the time.

[bagsboy]

"We don't need Curry cause we got Ben Wallace" Doc Pax

[Mad Mike]

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LaMarcus is still on his rookie contract, so what you're saying couldn't be more wrong for now. Eddy was about to re-sign when that entire thing went down. Besides, he missed the final part of the season and the entire playoff series against Washington. I highly doubt the Bulls were planning to diagnose him with heart issues.

so it would have been okay to have curry play games if he was still on his rookie contract but since he wasn't its ohh paxson saved his life? His heart issue was overblown now that i look at it because eddy is perfectly fine and we don't hear anything about his heart. I think the bulls wanted to overblow it because they saw it as a opportunity not to pay him max salary. At the end it worked out fine for he bulls and not so fine for curry because they got 2 lotto picks while curry lost alot of money over the issue.

[Mad Mike]

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Apart from being on the rookie contract as mentioned, LA does not weigh 300 pounds, and look proned to a heart attack let alone anything else..

eddy curry looks like a walking heart attack now? he does look like he weigh 300 pounds but he is listed at 285. Shaq must be on heart attack watch for his whole career because he has always been way over 300 pounds right?lol

[ATRAIN53]

Not a double-double but what about 29 points, 8 rebounds, 4 blocks?

he did that moving like a sloth most of the night, a decent effort and they got the W.

so i'd say the floor is yours now to take another shot at Paxson or the Bulls.

(i'd give Skiles a call and let him think up a quote for you, tell him it's his x-mas present from you!)

[Addicted123]

Curry is the same player he was with the Bulls. He is fat and he is lazy but he is EXACTLY what the Bulls are missing.

[moocow007]

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he did that moving like a sloth most of the night, a decent effort and they got the W.

Curry was moving fine going up for contested dunks and blocking shots (and he had several that didn't count that he blocked off the backboard). Heck with that scowl he had on his face many Knick fans had to do a double take to make sure that it was really Curry out there.

so i'd say the floor is yours now to take another shot at Paxson or the Bulls.

The ultimate insult then...

Thomas > Paxson.

(i'd give Skiles a call and let him think up a quote for you, tell him it's his x-mas present from you!)

I'll do that.

[newskoolbulls]

eddy thinks its crazy if his mom only makes 3 hams for him on x-mas eve as well.

[Ben]

For the past month or so I've been advocating a Wallace for Curry-plus-cr*p trade. So obviously I agree with the idea that Curry could provide something that we lack, and could help us to get out from under Wallace's contract.

That said, he's not "exactly" what the Bulls are lacking. We're a weird, hodge-podge assemblage right now and there's not one single, random attribute that's suddenly going to make us elite. Eddy has a lot of flaws. But I do think that we could help to cover them up.

Back to an earlier topic of conversation: I'll be happy to shake hands with any poster, no matter what, for the low-low price of $1 million. Even Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, if he happens to post here. (I have a few ideas about which screen name he's surreptitiously been posting under...)

1 million smackers-- and, as Earl Scheib might say, "no ups and no extras."