Chicago Sky/WNBA thread 2024

[Betta Bulleavit]

It's criminal to be running so many plays for Reese when in reality Cardoso is the more talented offensive player by a mile. Reese is a black hole whereas Cardoso sees doubles early and can even sometimes make a skip pass.

I found it telling that with the game over the Sky ran a play to try and get a Reese a desperation three to try and keep her double double streak alive.

Are they trying to win and make the playoffs or are they trying to pad Reese's stats? You can't do both. It's one or the other.

No, that’s not what happened at all. That play wasn’t run to get Reese a 3 pointer. The play was to get Reese the ball on the inbound so that she could pass it back to a shooter. But the Mystics broke it up.

[madvillian]

It's criminal to be running so many plays for Reese when in reality Cardoso is the more talented offensive player by a mile. Reese is a black hole whereas Cardoso sees doubles early and can even sometimes make a skip pass.

I found it telling that with the game over the Sky ran a play to try and get a Reese a desperation three to try and keep her double double streak alive.

Are they trying to win and make the playoffs or are they trying to pad Reese's stats? You can't do both. It's one or the other.

No, that’s not what happened at all. That play wasn’t run to get Reese a 3 pointer. The play was to get Reese the ball on the inbound so that she could pass it back to a shooter. But the Mystics broke it up.

that's not at all what I saw, but it doesn't matter. Reese was brutal down the stretch including jogging back on defense to allow a layup, blowing a contested shot with two people wide open at the three point line, and turning it over constantly all game. She also led the team in minutes. The coach isn't doing anybody any good pretending she's some juggernaut. She's a nice rebounder, that's about it.

[Betta Bulleavit]

It's criminal to be running so many plays for Reese when in reality Cardoso is the more talented offensive player by a mile. Reese is a black hole whereas Cardoso sees doubles early and can even sometimes make a skip pass.

I found it telling that with the game over the Sky ran a play to try and get a Reese a desperation three to try and keep her double double streak alive.

Are they trying to win and make the playoffs or are they trying to pad Reese's stats? You can't do both. It's one or the other.

No, that’s not what happened at all. That play wasn’t run to get Reese a 3 pointer. The play was to get Reese the ball on the inbound so that she could pass it back to a shooter. But the Mystics broke it up.

that's not at all what I saw, but it doesn't matter. Reese was brutal down the stretch including jogging back on defense to allow a layup, blowing a contested shot with two people wide open at the three point line, and turning it over constantly all game. She also led the team in minutes. The coach isn't doing anybody any good pretending she's some juggernaut. She's a nice rebounder, that's about it.

Last night’s game was a mess in general and it wasn’t just Reese. They were sloppy from top to bottom and I think that the idea that Reese is being artificially pumped up by her coach is ridiculous. I’ve watched all but 4 games this season and I haven’t seen that at all. It’s reached a point where some people are just seeing what they want to see.

[nomorezorro]

i think it's a fair criticism of reese to say there have been moments where it feels like she's straining to get her numbers, and moments where it feels like she's loafing because she knows it doesn't show up in the box score. but those moments aren't particularly commonplace, and she's got such a high motor most of the time that it's hard to be too harsh on her for occasionally letting up or making a selfish play. and then when people act like there's a team-wide conspiracy to try to make angel look good...it's detached from reality, yeah

i think people are struggling to understand the context that reese is playing in — namely, that there are next to no offensive creators on the sky, and for all those possessions you see her clumsily drive to the hoop to force a bricked layup, there are just as many plays when she's not involved or on the bench and the ball just stagnates. if the team is leaning too heavily on reese for any reason, it's because they can't rely on anyone else other than chennedy to put pressure on a defense. i think kamilla has a ton of potential, but she's still really passive and doesn't look totally comfortable operating with the ball in her hands (plus barely anyone on the team is capable of making an entry pass). basically everyone else just flat-out stinks.

the team is running out the clock until they can restore the roster with capable players, so you won't really be able to judge how angel actually plays as a member of a functioning team until next year at the earliest

[Betta Bulleavit]

i think it's a fair criticism of reese to say there have been moments where it feels like she's straining to get her numbers, and moments where it feels like she's loafing because she knows it doesn't show up in the box score. but those moments aren't particularly commonplace, and she's got such a high motor most of the time that it's hard to be too harsh on her for occasionally letting up or making a selfish play. and then when people act like there's a team-wide conspiracy to try to make angel look good...it's detached from reality, yeah

i think people are struggling to understand the context that reese is playing in — namely, that there are next to no offensive creators on the sky, and for all those possessions you see her clumsily drive to the hoop to force a bricked layup, there are just as many plays when she's not involved or on the bench and the ball just stagnates. if the team is leaning too heavily on reese for any reason, it's because they can't rely on anyone else other than chennedy to put pressure on a defense. i think kamilla has a ton of potential, but she's still really passive and doesn't look totally comfortable operating with the ball in her hands (plus barely anyone on the team is capable of making an entry pass). basically everyone else just flat-out stinks.

the team is running out the clock until they can restore the roster with capable players, so you won't really be able to judge how angel actually plays as a member of a functioning team until next year at the earliest

To add to this, I do feel like Angel could pass out of her ORBs more rather than going up against 2 defenders, knowing that she’s not a strong finisher at this point in her career. She shoots 12.4 times a game while a player like Cardoso only shoots 7.5 times a game. It feels to me like those numbers should be flipped considering Cardoso’s offensive skill set. So there’s a lot of room for growth for Reese both as a player and as a person. But her numbers are what they are for better or worse and I don’t think there’s some cover conspiracy going on to help her look better than she is.

[Ice Man]

Angel needs Clark and vice versa. (Clark gets little use from the Fever's startng #4 because that player doesn't run the floor or make basket cuts.) That would be a win-win.

[sco]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/fridays-sky-fever-caitlin-clark-212421385.html

wow, already the most expensive WNBA ticket in history.

[Almost Retired]

GO Fever!

[wojoaderge]

i think it's a fair criticism of reese to say there have been moments where it feels like she's straining to get her numbers, and moments where it feels like she's loafing because she knows it doesn't show up in the box score. but those moments aren't particularly commonplace, and she's got such a high motor most of the time that it's hard to be too harsh on her for occasionally letting up or making a selfish play. and then when people act like there's a team-wide conspiracy to try to make angel look good...it's detached from reality, yeah

i think people are struggling to understand the context that reese is playing in — namely, that there are next to no offensive creators on the sky, and for all those possessions you see her clumsily drive to the hoop to force a bricked layup, there are just as many plays when she's not involved or on the bench and the ball just stagnates. if the team is leaning too heavily on reese for any reason, it's because they can't rely on anyone else other than chennedy to put pressure on a defense. i think kamilla has a ton of potential, but she's still really passive and doesn't look totally comfortable operating with the ball in her hands (plus barely anyone on the team is capable of making an entry pass). basically everyone else just flat-out stinks.

the team is running out the clock until they can restore the roster with capable players, so you won't really be able to judge how angel actually plays as a member of a functioning team until next year at the earliest

To add to this, I do feel like Angel could pass out of her ORBs more rather than going up against 2 defenders, knowing that she’s not a strong finisher at this point in her career. She shoots 12.4 times a game while a player like Cardoso only shoots 7.5 times a game. It feels to me like those numbers should be flipped considering Cardoso’s offensive skill set. So there’s a lot of room for growth for Reese both as a player and as a person. But her numbers are what they are for better or worse and I don’t think there’s some cover conspiracy going on to help her look better than she is.

Kamilla very often passes out of the low post when she has single coverage, and she has a mismatch against every center not named Britney Griner. As far I'm concerned the FGA disparity is pretty much on her.

[_txchilibowl_]

i think it's a fair criticism of reese to say there have been moments where it feels like she's straining to get her numbers, and moments where it feels like she's loafing because she knows it doesn't show up in the box score. but those moments aren't particularly commonplace, and she's got such a high motor most of the time that it's hard to be too harsh on her for occasionally letting up or making a selfish play. and then when people act like there's a team-wide conspiracy to try to make angel look good...it's detached from reality, yeah

i think people are struggling to understand the context that reese is playing in — namely, that there are next to no offensive creators on the sky, and for all those possessions you see her clumsily drive to the hoop to force a bricked layup, there are just as many plays when she's not involved or on the bench and the ball just stagnates. if the team is leaning too heavily on reese for any reason, it's because they can't rely on anyone else other than chennedy to put pressure on a defense. i think kamilla has a ton of potential, but she's still really passive and doesn't look totally comfortable operating with the ball in her hands (plus barely anyone on the team is capable of making an entry pass). basically everyone else just flat-out stinks.

the team is running out the clock until they can restore the roster with capable players, so you won't really be able to judge how angel actually plays as a member of a functioning team until next year at the earliest

To add to this, I do feel like Angel could pass out of her ORBs more rather than going up against 2 defenders, knowing that she’s not a strong finisher at this point in her career. She shoots 12.4 times a game while a player like Cardoso only shoots 7.5 times a game. It feels to me like those numbers should be flipped considering Cardoso’s offensive skill set. So there’s a lot of room for growth for Reese both as a player and as a person. But her numbers are what they are for better or worse and I don’t think there’s some cover conspiracy going on to help her look better than she is.

Kamilla very often passes out of the low post when she has single coverage, and she has a mismatch against every center not named Britney Griner. As far I'm concerned the FGA disparity is pretty much on her.

I've noticed this as well. Though, to her credit, she's been much more aggressive post All-Star break. Especially on the defensive end. She looks like she's settling in.

[wojoaderge]

To add to this, I do feel like Angel could pass out of her ORBs more rather than going up against 2 defenders, knowing that she’s not a strong finisher at this point in her career. She shoots 12.4 times a game while a player like Cardoso only shoots 7.5 times a game. It feels to me like those numbers should be flipped considering Cardoso’s offensive skill set. So there’s a lot of room for growth for Reese both as a player and as a person. But her numbers are what they are for better or worse and I don’t think there’s some cover conspiracy going on to help her look better than she is.

Kamilla very often passes out of the low post when she has single coverage, and she has a mismatch against every center not named Britney Griner. As far I'm concerned the FGA disparity is pretty much on her.

I've noticed this as well. Though, to her credit, she's been much more aggressive post All-Star break. Especially on the defensive end. She looks like she's settling in.

Yeah, she starting to shoot a sort of drop step banker successfully. Now she just has to find a move over her other shoulder she feels comfortable with. I hope she shoots whole a lot tonight, because I don't they'll have any chance at all if she doesn't.

[nomorezorro]

it would probably be an uphill battle anyway considering the directions the fever and sky are trending in, but chennedy being out basically kills any excitement i had for this game

[Shill]

Sky were badly overmatched without Carter.

ROY debate is officially over.

[MrSparkle]

Welp- back to getting our asses kicked by Indiana for the next 5-10 years.

[Almost Retired]

Sky were badly overmatched without Carter.

ROY debate is officially over.

Clark isn't just ROY, she should be runner up to A'ja Wilson for MVP as well. She's the Steph Curry of women's basketball from "3", and probably the best passer in women's basketball. She completely elevated the Fever once the other players got accustomed to her creative passing. Half of the turnovers credited to her early in the season were due to teammates not being ready for her passes. She has elevated her teammates.

[Shill]

Sky were badly overmatched without Carter.

ROY debate is officially over.

Clark isn't just ROY, she should be runner up to A'ja Wilson for MVP as well. She's the Steph Curry of women's basketball from "3", and probably the best passer in women's basketball. She completely elevated the Fever once the other players got accustomed to her creative passing. Half of the turnovers credited to her early in the season were due to teammates not being ready for her passes. She has elevated her teammates.

I’d probably put Napheesa Collier second, but Clark has certainly put herself in the conversation.

Fever are 15-8 since that brutal 1-8 start to the season when they were playing a murderers’ row every night.

[Jcool0]

Sky were badly overmatched without Carter.

ROY debate is officially over.

Clark isn't just ROY, she should be runner up to A'ja Wilson for MVP as well. She's the Steph Curry of women's basketball from "3", and probably the best passer in women's basketball. She completely elevated the Fever once the other players got accustomed to her creative passing. Half of the turnovers credited to her early in the season were due to teammates not being ready for her passes. She has elevated her teammates.

Still has TO issues they are 8-4 in the last 12 games and she hasd 6+ turnovers in 7 of those games.

[Jcool0]

Sky might of dropped the ball passing on her

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[Shill]

Sky were badly overmatched without Carter.

ROY debate is officially over.

Clark isn't just ROY, she should be runner up to A'ja Wilson for MVP as well. She's the Steph Curry of women's basketball from "3", and probably the best passer in women's basketball. She completely elevated the Fever once the other players got accustomed to her creative passing. Half of the turnovers credited to her early in the season were due to teammates not being ready for her passes. She has elevated her teammates.

Still has TO issues they are 8-4 in the last 12 games and she hasd 6+ turnovers in 7 of those games.

She still has some sloppy turnovers, but it almost doesn’t matter because her usage rate is so high and she’s generating so much offense.

Fever are #1 in offensive rating since like mid-June.

[dougthonus]

Sky might of dropped the ball passing on her

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Was hoping the Sky would take her and Reese.