NBA Trade Thread #13

[Ccwatercraft]

Hopefully, after the Mavs get tired of the stupid "Cooper Flagg at PG" experiment, they realize they need to trade one of those good bigs for a guard. They started Flagg, Klay Thompson, PJ Washington, Anthony Davis, Derrik Lively, smh.

They really do need to rebalance, but they seem to like all of them.

[pipfan]

Booker would be high on my list of players to avoid. That contract is killer, for an AS player. Yes, he'll make the HoF for sheer numbers, but not a superstar in any way.

Lauri/Zion/Claxton/Turner are my targets as of now, depending on how Nov goes

In an ideal world, we add Lauri and move Matas to the 3. Would Utah want CWhite?

[Seccci]

Booker is on a franchise killing contract

Looks like it's $57M next year and $61M the year after. It's high, but not so high that we can't fill in a hole at C. If somehow Pat can be part of the deal, it becomes a decent deal (vs. $18M flushed every season).

It is rough contract and overpaid, im not going to lie, but so was Zach lavine at 40+ and soon to be Coby white at 35+ and ayo at 25mil a season.

That was actually the idea behind me looking through NBA teams for SG that might be better than these guys, not over 30 and in situation where we might not have to break the bank, send all picks to get him- so kind of landed on booker. He also went to finals and is clutch and can shoot game ending ft's, which right now we don't have anyone to do that. Everyone we send misses one out of 4 regurarly.

Sooo, instead of playing combined 70 mil to Coby,ayo- consolidate and get proven guy, even if overpaid. Their owner might even not push for a haul just to cut costs, so no need to send 3 first picks or something crazy.

But I get it, booker is not highly rated over here as i remember people thought lavine is even better than him. Kind of agree to disagree situation for me. Plus even though we have crazy depth now, lot of them are expiring and I don't see anyone want to pay them guys going rates next 2 years. Might as well convert 2/3 of them into one all star( sort of what cavaliers did with Mitchell, than the youth improving raises ceiling to deep playoff runs)- that's the idea

[WesPeace]

Booker is on a franchise killing contract

Looks like it's $57M next year and $61M the year after. It's high, but not so high that we can't fill in a hole at C. If somehow Pat can be part of the deal, it becomes a decent deal (vs. $18M flushed every season).

It is rough contract and overpaid, im not going to lie, but so was Zach lavine at 40+ and soon to be Coby white at 35+ and ayo at 25mil a season.

That was actually the idea behind me looking through NBA teams for SG that might be better than these guys, not over 30 and in situation where we might not have to break the bank, send all picks to get him- so kind of landed on booker. He also went to finals and is clutch and can shoot game ending ft's, which right now we don't have anyone to do that. Everyone we send misses one out of 4 regurarly.

Sooo, instead of playing combined 70 mil to Coby,ayo- consolidate and get proven guy, even if overpaid. Their owner might even not push for a haul just to cut costs, so no need to send 3 first picks or something crazy.

But I get it, booker is not highly rated over here as i remember people thought lavine is even better than him. Kind of agree to disagree situation for me. Plus even though we have crazy depth now, lot of them are expiring and I don't see anyone want to pay them guys going rates next 2 years. Might as well convert 2/3 of them into one all star( sort of what cavaliers did with Mitchell, than the youth improving raises ceiling to deep playoff runs)- that's the idea

LOL Ayo is not gonna get the same contract as Giddey.. White 35M not very likely either, unless he plays eyes out this season. I think AKME will re-sign Coby and Ayo to team friendly contracts. Jones and Giddey were good deals.

Just big fat NO to Booker, he isnt the guy! He is solid,but not someone who will lead you anywhere. His contract makes it even worse..

[Infinity2152]

OK, now people are going overboard, lmao! Booker's contract the next two years is not even crazy for a player at that level. It jumps two years from now, but the cap will be higher then too. Seems people think the key to winning championships is cost efficiency. We're so focused on getting good contracts. Nobody's trading a top tier talent without some warts (contract, age, injury history, trade demand, expiring). Salary is not stopping most teams from winning, not having high end talent does that.

Can't ignore the fact Booker was averaging 26 and 7, and 27 and 7 his last two years playing with Durant and Beal and he's still under 30. He'll be making around what Tatum or Brown are making. Not worried about him regressing at 28, his team was extremely mismatched the last two years.

We're likely to have a $50+ mill contract on this team if it's a vet with over 10 years anyway. Booker's likely in the top 5% (top 22) in the NBA. Matas starting on a rookie contract the next two years minimizes much of that cost impact. Maybe a team with little talent but about to clear maybe the most money in the league shouldn't worry about cap as much as getting ONE top 20 player.

Booker makes $53 mill this year. Players in his range or more: Kawhi Leonard, Paul George, Lebron James, KAT, Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, Bradley Beal, Damian Lillard, Jimmy Butler, Anthony Davis, Giannis, KD, Jokic, Embid and Curry. Booker's 28, would take him right now over most of them.

Most of those guys making the same money are well over 30, many impossible to trade for without gutting the team. We're going to pay a max contract for an elite scorer, and we need an elite scorer, 7 assists per game isn't exactly trash either. He's still young enough and talented enough to build around for 5-6 years, Giddey and Matas would be a great start. If it costs mostly expirings and a few picks, he's by far the best talent we could add and Suns could be motivated to clear cap.