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Melo Thread 19: It's Spidey Austin..it was Spidey all along.

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Post#521 » by DaeDae » Mon Jul 7, 2014 12:49 pm

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BullsFTW wrote:He's trying to leverage for a S&T to CHI or more money to stay in NY.


You are talking to me, so I will answer: If he were trying to leverage his way to Chicago, why not just put it out there publically that he has asked NY to sign and trade him to Chicago, and put the pressure on Phil Jackson to "behave" and capitulate?

Because if there was no third team present, Melo can't threaten the Knicks to S&T him and risk losing him for nothing. If he declares Chicago right away, it's guarantee PJ will extract the Bulls with assets, and Melo does not want that, because he will not be coming to a team that cannot contend for a title.

It could be Melo angling himself to play for a championship caliber contender, while getting his money.

Melo never made sense basketball wise, so he could using them as leverage for all we know, or he was sold after the Tobey Maguire short film.


OK. I'll simmer down. I feel like I'm in the "nuthouse".
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Re: Melo Thread 19: It's Spidey Austin..it was Spidey all al 

Post#522 » by Magilla_Gorilla » Mon Jul 7, 2014 12:50 pm

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DaeDae wrote:I'm opting out of this process. I legitimately am having a hard time believing it is taking him THIS long to at least make his INTENTIONS known. He is overplaying his public relations hand (with me at least), by dragging this out into another week. I'll check in from time to time, but I've wasted enough time in my real life on this.

He's trying to leverage for a S&T to CHI or more money to stay in NY.


You are talking to me, so I will answer: If he were trying to leverage his way to Chicago, why not just put it out there publically that he has asked NY to sign and trade him to Chicago, and put the pressure on Phil Jackson to "behave" and capitulate?




Because Phil has no obligation to capitulate to Melo. The only way Melo gets what he wants from NY is to have another option available that NY is worried enough about to fear losing Melo for nothing.

This whole 'leverage' angle might be wishful thinking on Bulls fans part - buts exactly how Melo would need to play it to force NY into working a S&T.
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Re: Melo Thread 19: It's Spidey Austin..it was Spidey all al 

Post#523 » by Groucho » Mon Jul 7, 2014 12:50 pm

MAQ wrote:I'll also say this...

I think if Melo signs here, LBJ's going to the Cavs.

If Melo goes to Houston, I think he goes to the Cavs too...

Otherwise he stays with MIA.


I think the more important question is, where will Rashard Lewis take his talents to?
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Re: Melo Thread 19: It's Spidey Austin..it was Spidey all al 

Post#524 » by ingvald » Mon Jul 7, 2014 12:51 pm

IMO, the only play the Bulls had was to get Melo via S&T. The only real leverage for the Knicks to agree to a S&T was losing him for no compensation. The only way Melo walks and the Knicks get nothing was a third team unless the Bulls gut the roster. So chatter is out that Melo may walk to LA increases the Bulls' leverage for the S&T. And if LA honestly thinks Melo will sign there, I'm pretty sure Phil will believe Jeanie.

He may not come but nothing has changed my belief that this is still Pax's play for Melo via S&T.
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Re: Melo Thread 19: It's Spidey Austin..it was Spidey all al 

Post#525 » by Jordan45822 » Mon Jul 7, 2014 12:52 pm

SAS says that Anthony wants a no-trade clause
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Re: Melo Thread 19: It's Spidey Austin..it was Spidey all al 

Post#526 » by SteelerSpartan » Mon Jul 7, 2014 12:52 pm

SAS making Jokes about Melo and his money and the idea that chicago is an option because we cant give it to him
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Re: Melo Thread 19: It's Spidey Austin..it was Spidey all al 

Post#527 » by DaeDae » Mon Jul 7, 2014 12:52 pm

SAS just repeated that we can only offer him 17 million, and that's why we aren't higher on the list. That tells me he knows nothing.
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Re: Melo Thread 19: It's Spidey Austin..it was Spidey all al 

Post#528 » by Magilla_Gorilla » Mon Jul 7, 2014 12:52 pm

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MAQ wrote:Looks like we're turning on each other...

And Melo hasn't even announced he's not coming yet.

Feel sorry for these mods later...



This place is going to be a bloodbath.


It shouldn't be the FO has done a good job of it, but somehow it's Taj's fault I guess.




I agree 100%. I really don't see what else the FO could have done - sometimes people make decision that on the face have no logical reason behind them. We're going to blame the FO because Melo likes palm trees?

As I've said from the beginning - adding Rose and Mirotic to a 48 win team is more than 28 FO's are going to do this off-season. Lets see what GarPax can do on the second tier FA market.
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Re: Melo Thread 19: It's Spidey Austin..it was Spidey all al 

Post#529 » by jc23 » Mon Jul 7, 2014 12:52 pm

Jordan45822 wrote:SAS says that Anthony wants a no-trade clause


and loves his money, which doesnt make sense because he opted out.
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Re: Melo Thread 19: It's Spidey Austin..it was Spidey all al 

Post#530 » by MAQ » Mon Jul 7, 2014 12:53 pm

Jordan45822 wrote:SAS says that Anthony wants a no-trade clause

That is...pretty interesting. I wonder if that gives some teams pause...I would imagine it does.
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Re: Melo Thread 19: It's Spidey Austin..it was Spidey all al 

Post#531 » by Magilla_Gorilla » Mon Jul 7, 2014 12:54 pm

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Jordan45822 wrote:SAS says that Anthony wants a no-trade clause

That is...pretty interesting. I wonder if that gives some teams pause...I would imagine it does.



Yep. Especially in that 4th year when he's 34 and making 25+ million.

Interesting.
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Re: Melo Thread 19: It's Spidey Austin..it was Spidey all al 

Post#532 » by jc23 » Mon Jul 7, 2014 12:54 pm

even if sas was saying melo to chicago i would still hate hearing this guy talk. ugh.
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Re: Melo Thread 19: It's Spidey Austin..it was Spidey all al 

Post#533 » by rtblues » Mon Jul 7, 2014 12:54 pm

DaeDae wrote:SAS just repeated that we can only offer him 17 million, and that's why we aren't higher on the list. That tells me he knows nothing.


This fool has ZERO news, and doesn't even know the numbers.
Ha, he's sick and tired of non-basketball people talking about the NBA, look in the mirror Steven.
What a useless tool.

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Post#534 » by DanTown8587 » Mon Jul 7, 2014 12:54 pm

Jordan45822 wrote:SAS says that Anthony wants a no-trade clause


I lied, Anthony can get it in NY (hadn't realized how long he's been there)

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Re: Melo Thread 19: It's Spidey Austin..it was Spidey all al 

Post#535 » by BullsFTW » Mon Jul 7, 2014 12:55 pm

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
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BullsFTW wrote:He's trying to leverage for a S&T to CHI or more money to stay in NY.


You are talking to me, so I will answer: If he were trying to leverage his way to Chicago, why not just put it out there publically that he has asked NY to sign and trade him to Chicago, and put the pressure on Phil Jackson to "behave" and capitulate?




Because Phil has no obligation to capitulate to Melo. The only way Melo gets what he wants from NY is to have another option available that NY is worried enough about to fear losing Melo for nothing.

This whole 'leverage' angle might be wishful thinking on Bulls fans part - buts exactly how Melo would need to play it to force NY into working a S&T.

DanTown and Coldfish mentioned this before FA started, and some other posters as well. We need the presence of a third team in order to convince PJ to facilitate a reasonable S&T. It is wishful thinking at this point, but who knows.
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Re: Melo Thread 19: It's Spidey Austin..it was Spidey all al 

Post#536 » by Zartan » Mon Jul 7, 2014 12:56 pm

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Losing my mind indeed. What's funny is....you know what my wife said to me yesteday?

"I thought you SWORE you wouldn't do this again, after what happened with Lebron in 2010!"

She sounded kinda pissed when she said it too. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Lol. Wives.


I had no comeback. But it did take me 24 hours to admit she's right. I'm better than this. :nonono: :nonono:


Are you really though? Are any of us, lol?

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Re: Melo Thread 19: It's Spidey Austin..it was Spidey all al 

Post#537 » by jc23 » Mon Jul 7, 2014 12:56 pm

somebody punch this guy in the face
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Re: Melo Thread 19: It's Spidey Austin..it was Spidey all al 

Post#538 » by SteelerSpartan » Mon Jul 7, 2014 12:56 pm

SAS thinking hed be turning down 50 million if he came here :nonono:
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Re: Melo Thread 19: It's Spidey Austin..it was Spidey all al 

Post#539 » by FRKMSTR » Mon Jul 7, 2014 12:56 pm

Groucho wrote:
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Groucho wrote:SAS talking about Lebron? Source, link????


Source? Link? Its on Mike and Mike either turn on the tv or radio. SAS had to step out for a minute he is back now!!

SAS on Mike and Mike!!



Okay, but I am highly skeptical about this report.


Skeptical about this report? Where do you live in a cave? Just turn on the TV or radio geez.

Its not a report I was trying to be helpful so you guys can watch or listen. Football guy Herm Edwards is up next on Mike and Mike.

The biggest thing Stephen A Smith had to say was after knowing Carmelo for over a decade HE LOVES HIS MONEY!! He said it over and over again, NY is #1.
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Re: Melo Thread 19: It's Spidey Austin..it was Spidey all al 

Post#540 » by Groucho » Mon Jul 7, 2014 12:57 pm

Everyone needs to stop kidding theirselves about this whole S&T, third team stuff.

Spider sealed the deal with that riveting mini movie.

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