Image ImageImage Image

Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed

Moderators: HomoSapien, dougthonus, Michael Jackson, Tommy Udo 6 , kulaz3000, fleet, DASMACKDOWN, GimmeDat, RedBulls23, AshyLarrysDiaper, coldfish, Payt10, Ice Man

PhillyFan11
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,464
And1: 600
Joined: Jun 23, 2018

Re: Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed 

Post#61 » by PhillyFan11 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:42 pm

Showtime23 wrote:
Dan Z wrote:
PhillyFan11 wrote:Throwing a trade out there to see what Bulls fans think

Markell Fultz, Furkan Korkmaz, Jonah Bolden and a couple of 2nd round picks

for

Bobby Portis and Justin Holiday


I'd do it. Is Philly really that low on Fultz right now?


Fultz is a negative asset when you consider he is making nearly 10 million dollars for a bench warmer.
As of now, Philly doesnt have time to waste/develop him and already went all in for win now mode.
Knowing they are desperate, I would try to snag Z.Smith in addition to Fultz by giving up BP, Holiday, and Valentine.
Philly gets 3 key rotation players while Bulls gets to develop 2 young projects who still have some decent potential left in the tank.


Don’t know if I’d use the word desperate, trading Zhaire would be selling him at his lowest possible value. I wouldn’t do that with him involve, plus Sixers don’t really have minutes for a 3rd guy. Valentine/Holiday would get very few minutes.


But the reason I’d trade Fultz as a Sixers fan is because right now he’s pretty useless without the ball in his hands. He shows pretty nice flashes as a PG with his ability to get in the lane, but with Embiid, Ben, and Butler there isn’t much ball time to go around. Plus just the sheer fact that it’s getting time for a change of scenery that’s best for everyone.
PhillyFan11
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,464
And1: 600
Joined: Jun 23, 2018

Re: Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed 

Post#62 » by PhillyFan11 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:51 pm

realEAST wrote:
PhillyFan11 wrote:Throwing a trade out there to see what Bulls fans think

Markell Fultz, Furkan Korkmaz, Jonah Bolden and a couple of 2nd round picks

for

Bobby Portis and Justin Holiday


I'd love it, but it is a huge overpay for 76ers. And not sure Portis is a good fit there at all.


Portis can’t fit right in for what Saric did for the sixers? Maybe his outside shot isn’t quite as good, but I think his athleticism over Saric would even it out nicely
patryk7754
General Manager
Posts: 8,915
And1: 1,538
Joined: Jan 22, 2012

Re: Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed 

Post#63 » by patryk7754 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:30 pm

Here's the master plan.

Deadline trade
Dunn to the Spurs for their first

Draft Zion
Sign Rose
Trade Spurs first, two future firsts, and Wendel Carter Jr. For Davis

Rose/Lavine/Zion/Lauri/Davis
Dan Z
RealGM
Posts: 18,458
And1: 9,143
Joined: Feb 19, 2002
Location: Chicago
 

Re: Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed 

Post#64 » by Dan Z » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:29 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:
Showtime23 wrote:
Dan Z wrote:
I'd do it. Is Philly really that low on Fultz right now?


Fultz is a negative asset when you consider he is making nearly 10 million dollars for a bench warmer.
As of now, Philly doesnt have time to waste/develop him and already went all in for win now mode.
Knowing they are desperate, I would try to snag Z.Smith in addition to Fultz by giving up BP, Holiday, and Valentine.
Philly gets 3 key rotation players while Bulls gets to develop 2 young projects who still have some decent potential left in the tank.


Don’t know if I’d use the word desperate, trading Zhaire would be selling him at his lowest possible value. I wouldn’t do that with him involve, plus Sixers don’t really have minutes for a 3rd guy. Valentine/Holiday would get very few minutes.


But the reason I’d trade Fultz as a Sixers fan is because right now he’s pretty useless without the ball in his hands. He shows pretty nice flashes as a PG with his ability to get in the lane, but with Embiid, Ben, and Butler there isn’t much ball time to go around. Plus just the sheer fact that it’s getting time for a change of scenery that’s best for everyone.


I bet Fultz value around the league is better than what fans think. If he ever figures out the issues with his jump shot then he's a great prospect. Will he do it? Who knows...that's the question. But I imagine that some teams are willing to gamble on that if Philly looks to trade him.

I like Portis but if that's what it costs to get Fultz then I do it. Portis is a solid player, but he never had the upside that Fultz does.

I don't see Philly throwing in Zhaire Smith.
realEAST
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,855
And1: 1,347
Joined: Mar 25, 2016
   

Re: Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed 

Post#65 » by realEAST » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:40 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:
realEAST wrote:
PhillyFan11 wrote:Throwing a trade out there to see what Bulls fans think

Markell Fultz, Furkan Korkmaz, Jonah Bolden and a couple of 2nd round picks

for

Bobby Portis and Justin Holiday


I'd love it, but it is a huge overpay for 76ers. And not sure Portis is a good fit there at all.


Portis can’t fit right in for what Saric did for the sixers? Maybe his outside shot isn’t quite as good, but I think his athleticism over Saric would even it out nicely


Don't think he is more athletic than Saric, especially if you think it would reflect on defensive end.
Chi town
RealGM
Posts: 29,311
And1: 9,052
Joined: Aug 10, 2004

Re: Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed 

Post#66 » by Chi town » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:01 pm

Bobby Portis for TJ Warren.

TJ has figured out how to shoot 3s.
PrimzyBulls81
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,933
And1: 1,226
Joined: Feb 09, 2013

Re: Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed 

Post#67 » by PrimzyBulls81 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:31 pm

Fultz to Bulls?? Houly crap.. HELL NOOOOO! Payne 2.0

But Portis to Philly is an option as they really need starting PF , but it would be sad to lose Booby :lol:
Nikola
Pro Prospect
Posts: 786
And1: 333
Joined: Nov 24, 2013

Re: Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed 

Post#68 » by Nikola » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:04 pm

Portis, Felicio, Holiday, $ -BK- Dinwidde, Faried
Nikola
Pro Prospect
Posts: 786
And1: 333
Joined: Nov 24, 2013

Re: Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed 

Post#69 » by Nikola » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:04 pm

Portis, Felicio, Holiday, $ -BK- Dinwidde, Faried
Dan Z
RealGM
Posts: 18,458
And1: 9,143
Joined: Feb 19, 2002
Location: Chicago
 

Re: Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed 

Post#70 » by Dan Z » Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:11 am

Nikola wrote:Portis, Felicio, Holiday, $ -BK- Dinwidde, Faried


I don't know why Brooklyn would do that trade. Faried is an expiring and Dinwiddie is having a good season.

Portis is currently hurt, Felico still has two more years on his deal and Holiday is just okay.
petebraun0
Senior
Posts: 720
And1: 211
Joined: Mar 13, 2011

Re: Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed 

Post#71 » by petebraun0 » Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:15 pm

I noticed that Boston has about four picks next year. Possibly: 8, 9, 19, 25

I would be willing to trade our top five pick, for all four or even three of their picks. We suddenly have youth, depth, and a revamped lineup, two lottery picks, and cost control for years. draft a sf, backup pg, backup center, and best player available. We'd lose a star player or Dukie, but would immediately replace: Holiday, Lopez, Payne, and Arci or Shaq.
User avatar
Axolotl
Starter
Posts: 2,349
And1: 2,282
Joined: Feb 05, 2018
Location: The Vasty Deep

Re: Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed 

Post#72 » by Axolotl » Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:21 pm

petebraun0 wrote:I noticed that Boston has about four picks next year. Possibly: 8, 9, 19, 25

I would be willing to trade our top five pick, for all four or even three of their picks. We suddenly have youth, depth, and a revamped lineup, two lottery picks, and cost control for years. draft a sf, backup pg, backup center, and best player available. We'd lose a star player or Dukie, but would immediately replace: Holiday, Lopez, Payne, and Arci or Shaq.


At this point we don't need depth, we need a star or a player that is as close to a star as possible. All in all it is way easier to acquire depth than it is to acquire a star. A fourth pick is more valuable to us than those four picks.
From the basketball's perspective, travel is a nice pause from being pounded to the floor.
Herrdoktor33
Junior
Posts: 365
And1: 136
Joined: Apr 02, 2018
 

Re: Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed 

Post#73 » by Herrdoktor33 » Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:44 pm

Portis/Valentine/Holiday/Payne for Tj Warren and Josh Jackson
Onibuh
Senior
Posts: 696
And1: 225
Joined: Jun 23, 2017
       

Re: Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed 

Post#74 » by Onibuh » Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:43 am

petebraun0 wrote:I noticed that Boston has about four picks next year. Possibly: 8, 9, 19, 25

I would be willing to trade our top five pick, for all four or even three of their picks. We suddenly have youth, depth, and a revamped lineup, two lottery picks, and cost control for years. draft a sf, backup pg, backup center, and best player available. We'd lose a star player or Dukie, but would immediately replace: Holiday, Lopez, Payne, and Arci or Shaq.

Need a star, not a Depth Player for another Depth Player.
ArtMorte
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,672
And1: 2,102
Joined: Jan 15, 2018
   

Re: Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed 

Post#75 » by ArtMorte » Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:11 pm

Would you trade Lavine for Beal?
If not, what if it was Lavine and Felicio for Beal?
sco
RealGM
Posts: 27,301
And1: 9,156
Joined: Sep 22, 2003
Location: Virtually Everywhere!

Re: Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed 

Post#76 » by sco » Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:44 pm

ArtMorte wrote:Would you trade Lavine for Beal?
If not, what if it was Lavine and Felicio for Beal?

Maybe, but it feels like a treadmill trade.

At this point, I would want to see the gang together first for a couple months.
:clap:
sco
RealGM
Posts: 27,301
And1: 9,156
Joined: Sep 22, 2003
Location: Virtually Everywhere!

Re: Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed 

Post#77 » by sco » Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:45 pm

I doubt there would be takers, but I wonder if we could trade Parker and Felicio for expiring salaries?
:clap:
sco
RealGM
Posts: 27,301
And1: 9,156
Joined: Sep 22, 2003
Location: Virtually Everywhere!

Re: Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed 

Post#78 » by sco » Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:58 pm

sco wrote:
ArtMorte wrote:Would you trade Lavine for Beal?
If not, what if it was Lavine and Felicio for Beal?

Maybe, but it feels like a treadmill trade.

At this point, I would want to see the gang together first for a couple months.

Just saw this:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25320702/washington-wizards-include-john-wall-bradley-beal-trade-scenarios

Yeah, I wonder if we have enough for Oubre? Portis and Hutch?
:clap:
User avatar
FriedRise
RealGM
Posts: 14,476
And1: 13,579
Joined: Jan 13, 2015
Location: Chicago
 

Re: Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed 

Post#79 » by FriedRise » Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:28 pm

With all the injuries, I don't know if we have anyone that might interest the Wiz. Looking at their roster, the Wiz has soooo many mediocre players with such high salaries.

Just next year alone, they're gonna have $104M tied up on Wall, Beal, Porter, and Mahinmi :lol:

Wall and Beal will probably command too much, and we have the younger/cheaper/homeless versions of them on our team already. Otto Porter is way overpaid, nobody should want that contract unless they attach some assets.

Only prospect I'd take is probably Oubre, but I dunno if I'd give up Hutch for him at this point in our rebuild...
MalagaBulls
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,067
And1: 2,223
Joined: Dec 15, 2013
Location: Malaga, Spain (Where the Sun shines 300 days a year))
         

Re: Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed 

Post#80 » by MalagaBulls » Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:11 pm

You know, in another world of fantasy land where we had a competent coach and GM I could imagine talking to Washington about trying to swap for Beal with LaVine as the centerpiece and one more piece to make salaries match. And we would have no injuries in this alternate world also. Would they hang up the phone?

Return to Chicago Bulls