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2025 Draft prospects - thread 2

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Post#821 » by Guru » Wed May 14, 2025 5:35 pm

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Gotta do our due dilligence. But I do not want Sorber unless it’s because we traded back to pick 20-30 and got another first round pick in the future.
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Post#827 » by Andi Obst » Wed May 14, 2025 8:01 pm

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I like Sorber quite a bit. Wouldn't be suprised if he ends up being the big with the best career in this class.
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Post#829 » by The Box Office » Wed May 14, 2025 8:12 pm

The hell? Collin Murray-Boyles is NOT the best defensive prospect in this draft. That's Cooper Flagg. Edgecombe is great defensively, too. That scout sounds like an idiot.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#830 » by Jvaughn » Wed May 14, 2025 8:13 pm

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This is silly. His stroke is fine. He will be fine.


Well, I do still think he’s a fine prospect at 12 and this doesn’t scare me off. But that strike is not fine. It’s crappy both in fundamentals and in natural fluidity.

I think almost anyone talented enough to reach the NBA can become passable three point shooter. I’m not suggesting he can’t. But there are numerous problems with this 3 ball.


Ive watched him a ton, this just isn't accurate


What part?
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#831 » by Jvaughn » Wed May 14, 2025 8:14 pm

The Box Office wrote:The hell? Collin Murray-Boyles is NOT the best defensive prospect in this draft. That's Cooper Flagg. Edgecombe is great defensively, too. That scout sounds like an idiot.


Eh, he's not the only one that's said that. It's been one of the notes on him all season. His defensive versatility and understanding of defensive scheme is one of, if not his best, attributes.
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Post#832 » by Dominator83 » Wed May 14, 2025 8:17 pm

I doubt #12 would be enough, but I'd love to trade it for Mark Williams.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#833 » by The Box Office » Wed May 14, 2025 8:32 pm

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The Box Office wrote:The hell? Collin Murray-Boyles is NOT the best defensive prospect in this draft. That's Cooper Flagg. Edgecombe is great defensively, too. That scout sounds like an idiot.


Eh, he's not the only one that's said that. It's been one of the notes on him all season. His defensive versatility and understanding of defensive scheme is one of, if not his best, attributes.


One of the best? Sure. THE best? Nah.

Collin Murray-Boyles' metrics have to show that and his stats clearly do not demonstrate that he's head and shoulders above Cooper Flagg.

By the way, Collin Murray-Boyles would be a great pick for us, too. He just better not be another Patrick Williams.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#834 » by kodo » Wed May 14, 2025 8:36 pm

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So....umm......he's probably off of my list. My hope was his shooting would get better. Still could, but this ain't promising.

I don't see the problem, Peter Patton can fix...oh, never mind, pass.


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Even if the % goes up, there's no elevation he's a set shooter not a jump shooter. He's going to have to be wiiide open with no defender coming at him, and I doubt he'll have any ability to side step the close out and launch a movement 3 accurately.

He was 26% from college 3 as a 2nd year college player, we probably shouldn't be surprised he has little shooting potential. I guess the question is if he'll be Draymond good on defense to make up for it. Reports are saying he was also a bad shooter even in HS, the opposite of Matas.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#835 » by HomoSapien » Wed May 14, 2025 8:39 pm

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Totally disagree. Demin and Giddey can’t coexist. They are the same player. Might be the only player we literally cannot draft.

Top Tier: Maluach/Queen
Mid Tier: Fleming/Bryant/Newell/Wolf
Bottom Tier: Sorber/CMB/Essengue


Quite a few people had this reaction, so I'll clarify my why I think they can. To me, I suspect Demin will settle in as a wing/point forward in the NBA. I don't see him being the primary facilitator, but more as a secondary one. I think there's something really fun about a lineup consisting of Giddey, Demin, and Matas -- three very tall, lengthy, versatile, and skilled guys. I like the potential ball movement, but what I really like is that it's three guys that just have a feel for the game. I think that's what you want in "Billy Ball". A free-flowing fast pace offense needs guys who are smart passers, and can create fast breaks and Giddey/Demin do that both with their passing and with their disruptive length. I love the mismatch potential of two jumbo guards in the backcourt. I also thought this team looked really good in the brief moments we saw Giddey and Ball together. So I do think they can co-exist.
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Post#836 » by 2weekswithpay » Wed May 14, 2025 8:40 pm

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Post#837 » by sco » Wed May 14, 2025 8:52 pm

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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#838 » by kodo » Wed May 14, 2025 8:55 pm

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HomoSapien wrote:I think my top "realistic" pick is Demin. His skill level just jumps out and I can see him easily fitting in on this team. I like KJ a lot too, but I'm concerned about the overlap between him, Giddey, and White. Obviously that's not a reason to not draft him, but Giddey specifically is our best young piece.


Totally disagree. Demin and Giddey can’t coexist. They are the same player. Might be the only player we literally cannot draft.

Top Tier: Maluach/Queen
Mid Tier: Fleming/Bryant/Newell/Wolf
Bottom Tier: Sorber/CMB/Essengue


Quite a few people had this reaction, so I'll clarify my why I think they can. To me, I suspect Demin will settle in as a wing/point forward in the NBA. I don't see him being the primary facilitator, but more as a secondary one. I think there's something really fun about a lineup consisting of Giddey, Demin, and Matas -- three very tall, lengthy, versatile, and skilled guys. I like the potential ball movement, but what I really like is that it's three guys that just have a feel for the game. I love the mismatch potential of two jumbo guards in the backcourt. I also thought this team looked really good in the brief moments we saw Giddey and Ball together. So I do think they can co-exist.


I mean if 100% healthy, we'd literally be starting Lonzo & Josh Giddey together along with Coby. And Vuc also acts as a passer much of the time when he gets the ball. Even if most GMs don't think the two would fit together, AK probably sees no issue.

Speaking of fit, most people are looking for bigs like CMB...I see Matas as the future PF so where would CMB go. Even though Giddey is the PG on offense, we've always started him with 2 other guards (Coby & Huerter, or Coby & Lavine). That means if Matas is ever going to start, it will be at PF not SF.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#839 » by LateNight » Wed May 14, 2025 8:57 pm

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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#840 » by PJSteven22 » Wed May 14, 2025 9:02 pm

The Box Office wrote:The hell? Collin Murray-Boyles is NOT the best defensive prospect in this draft. That's Cooper Flagg. Edgecombe is great defensively, too. That scout sounds like an idiot.

It’s debatable. I can see CMB being an anchor to a defense. Don’t be so closed minded.

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