2016 postseason game thread

Neddy · Post #801 » by **Neddy** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:13 am

Ranma wrote:I have been wondering why we haven't been using Alex Wood more in this series. At the very least, we could see how he's doing since coming back from his injury.

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Alex Wood is proabably being saved to be the middle guy when Maeda starts. I see Dave keeping Maeda for 3 innings or less depending how well or poorly he is pitching, then Wood will take over for close to 2 times through the lineup, which I hope can eat up 6 or more innings together until Blanton and Jansen are ready.

Neddy · Post #802 » by **Neddy** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:14 am

I literally hated every umpire in this series.

Neddy · Post #803 » by **Neddy** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:19 am

man Dave maybe waving the white flag, but I am not. probability maybe less than 3 % now, but that 3% do happen in baseball when you watched this game long enough.

remember 88? Mets spanked us in game 3 and down 1-2, it looked bleak then we came back in the 9th to tie the game from 4-2 to 4-4 and won in 12th inning? then pushed the series all the way to game 7 and went to the WS?

coupling that with us losing a 9-0 game in the 9th two decades ago, I still have hope. very tiny % but a positive number with that %.

Neddy · Post #804 » by **Neddy** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:22 am

well I will be listening but I think I am gonna go back to the office and finish my chart notes.

Adios fellow blue bleeders. see you all tomorrow.

turns out my CPA's chicken out text at the last minute did me a favor.

Post #805 » by **Kilroy** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:36 am

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Kilroy wrote:Yaz with 2 errors on a single play... Too late to trade him?

Why the hell did he still have his mask on?

for whom tho? he is the best offensive catcher with the best in business in terms of framing. his throwing ability is above average too. it is his damn stubbornness of pitch calling, but he is still very young and playing for less than 3 million which he is grossly underpaid, and is not a FA until 2019.

what i wish for is that we let Ruiz go after this season, bring up Austin and have him split time with Grandal. I believe Austin may not have the SLG but have OBP and BA to compensate and can catch about 40% of the time and eventually get Grandal traded for a ransom when Will Smith is ready.

It was a joke... He's been solid... Just not tonight.

Ranma · Post #806 » by **Ranma** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:44 am

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Post #807 » by **Kilroy** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:05 am

Puig with another base hit... Still not sure why he doesn't start.

Ranma · Post #808 » by **Ranma** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:10 am

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Post #809 » by **Kilroy** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:12 am

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LOL at 'full control'... It's tied bitch.

Ranma · Post #810 » by **Ranma** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:14 am

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Ranma · Post #811 » by **Ranma** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:48 am

Neddy wrote:we have to go with Kershaw tomorrow. we can't lose another home game and go back to Chicago knowing we have to win both. we can split that but not both. Kershaw being available is obviously a bonus, but Maeda won't go very deep tomorrow if started, we will be wasting our pen along with the probable loss against Lester. cannot go into Chicago needing both games with depleted pen. no way.

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Neddy · Post #812 » by **Neddy** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:51 am

we will see if in fact Dave will keep his word and start Maeda. but the fact that he wasted both Stripling and Wood tonight, makes me to believe he has no plans other than his trust and gut feelings. we now have 3 bullpen arms available. Jansen, Blanton, and Dayton. that is it to back up Maeda unless we go back to dip into Stripling who was destroyed after that error by ****. Wood went two innings, he and Urias are out. Pedro brings no confidence and I wish if we do make it to the WS, we bring back Coleman and drop Pedro. maybe Josh Field will be available. but unless Maeda goes at least 5, assuming Dayton and Blanton can go each 1 innings which I absolutely do not wish to see as Dayton is a a spot reliever than a setup guy, it won't work. that also is with the idea that Jansen will go 6 outs again.

I still think and stand by that Kershaw is our best option. but I also understand how often he had to pitch so far in this post season and the desire of the manager who must consider the next season and thereafter rather than just this post season. we were not supposed to be here outside of our fanbase anyway. but man, we are so close.

2-2 is fine. we have been here before, we just don't remember. in 1981, we lost the first two games against the Yanks and won 4 straight. as I have said before, in 1965, we were down 0-2 then came back to push for game 7 and won it all. even in our very first WS win in 1955, we had to come back from being down 0-2. being tied is still plenty good and this is only NLCS.

hell, I guess what I am saying is that I am not agreeing 100% with the decision of going with Maeda while we wasted our long relievers who can plug away a winning game in crisis for the game 5. but I still support and love, and wish for the best for our boys in blue. the Pantone 294 to be exact and not the ugly, 108 year old junk shade of blue.

Quake Griffin · Post #813 » by **Quake Griffin** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:35 am

I dont care at all about Kershaw on 3 days rest. If he feels fine, it's his call....

But....

No way I'd travel to Chicago without Kershaw available TO START the game(s).

Day off is coming. Maeda doesnt have to go deep nor completely shut it down. We could have won his last start if Blanton didnt toss Montero a room service meatball.
Blanton and Kenley both can get 4 - 6 outs if necessary.
Baez and Fields should be available.

I'd rather go to Chicago down 3-2 with Kershaw-Hill than up 3-2 with Maeda and Hill.

Ranma · Post #814 » by **Ranma** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:06 am

Neddy makes a good point that Roberts used up a lot of our quality bullpen arms outside of Jansen in Game 4 when it was out of hand. Being left with Dayton, Blanton, and limited usage for the others to back up Maeda and set up Jansen makes little sense to me. It actually seems to point to going with Kershaw in Game 5 despite what Roberts is saying. I have little faith in Dayton, Blanton, and Baez as relievers and Maeda is a question mark to me as a starter, especially in terms of providing at least 5 innings. He's still adjusting to 4-day rest periods from being used to 6-day ones as a once-a-week pitcher from his time in NPB.

I don't like the position that we find ourselves in now after blowing this opportunity to have a stranglehold on the series against an ordinary John Lackey. I have faith in Kershaw but using him on short rest seems to continually be pushing our luck. Hill is capable of masterful performances but is a question mark with his blisters and has shown that he can't really perform on short rest. Admittedly, my confidence is shaken now when it was pretty high after the Game 1 loss.

Obviously, I hope things work out for the best for the Dodgers to advance to the World Series but I hate the position we've now put ourselves in. I wouldn't be surprised to see Roberts go with Kershaw in Game 5 at the last minute to surprise the Cubs in an attempt to catch them off guard and hopefully quell their now hot bats while also making him available in relief for Game 7.

Quake Griffin · Post #815 » by **Quake Griffin** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:36 am

You're still counting on most of these factors for a Maeda start in Wrigley and given that Blanton and Kenley can both work more than an inning [and have], the strongest of you guys' points to me is who you actually have confidence in.

Well...what I have less confidence in:
- Maeda starting Game 6.
- Rich Hill repeating his Game 3 performance in Game 7...and trying to piece together a bullpen game when he inevitably gets yanked early. There's no day off between 6 and 7 so we'll have an abused pen coming in to Game 7 because Maeda isnt going past 5.

I said Shaw in Game 5 up 3-1 or down 3-1.
In one situation our backs would be against the wall.
In the other I'd roll the dice to avoid going back to Wrigley altogether.
But I think starting Shaw is a setup to lose.

Post #816 » by **Kilroy** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:35 pm

I think it matters less who starts or relieves, and more that we're in a situation, against a team that dictates an extremely short leash when it comes to monitoring a pitcher's control... Any pitcher.

Our bats aren't going to give us many opportunities against the cubs, so our pitching has to be spectacular, so when it becomes clear Urias is missing his spots, he's got to go no matter what the game plan is. Same with Maeda, Hill, Baez, Jansen and even Kershaw. I don't think we have the luxury of letting these guys pitch themselves back into a game or trusting our bats to support them.

And we need our fielding to be flawless... So Kiki shouldn't smell the field, and Riddeck needs to get pulled for Puig as soon as it looks like he's watching butterflies instead of the game...

We were sloppy last night... From Dave on down...

Ranma · Post #817 » by **Ranma** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:07 pm

While I'm glad to see Utley benched tonight, I'm not sure if **** is the answer to leadoff but Roberts seems to have faith in him for getting on base. Hopefully, he lives up to such faith. It also looks like Roberts it sticking with Maeda for tonight, after all.

I also want to wish Fred Claire well in his recovery from surgery. He may not have been the best evaluator of talent but he seems genuinely nice and was handcuffed by the O'Malleys in working for a family-owned franchise.

I haven't read her in a while but Karen Crouse was one of my favorite sportswriters growing up so I'm looking forward to reading her story about Andrew Toles.

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Ranma · Post #818 » by **Ranma** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:02 am

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Quake Griffin · Post #819 » by **Quake Griffin** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:05 am

Iffy on **** leading off.

I want Turner dropped in the order. Maybe he sees Lester well.

Maeda....give us 4 good ones.
5???
Please!

The task is enormous but we can do it.

Neddy · Post #820 » by **Neddy** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:09 am

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Vinny nailed it. we got this!