Trade Ideas

[mcfly1204]

AL Jefferson for Jamison / This years first rounder #1 protected.

You get a 20/10 center/PF to pair with your defensive minded center. We get your pick which at this point is likely to be 6-10, and more likely 10 if you get Jefferson.

Thoughts or tweeks.... to protection... let me know.

I would rather go after someone like Bargnani as I think he would fit better with Varejao and Thompson, and he makes less money per year, though he has a longer deal.

[mg]

Al Jefferson is better suited for a slower halfcourt game. I don't see him as a good fit to run up and down the court with Irving and TT.

There is no way the Cavs would take on Joe Johnson's contract at this stage of their rebuild.

[KuruptedCav]

I don't see the Cavs taking on that kind of salary until the off-season. Indeed, the only two moves I can see the cavs making at the deadline are Sessions or Gibson moved for an additional pick or two, this year or next. And Antawn Jamison to a contender for a 2nd rounder this year or a first next year.

Right now in their off-season war chest they have 1.5-2 big contracts; a lottery pick this year, two 2nds, 2 1sts and 2 2nds next year, a first and 2 2nds in 2014, and 2 firsts and a second in 2015; and the possibility of the Kings pick at some point (my guess is a high 2nd round pick in 2017). As well as tradeable assets in Varejao, Thompson, and either Gibson or Sessions if they are still with the team.

I know Cleveland isn't a preferred destination, but a deal for a star isn't out of the question. They won't commit until they at least kick the tires on a few.

Personally, I think they'll target Roy Hibbert in FA (paying too much), MKG in the draft, and then trade for a SG who can stroke from beyond the arc.

[gflem]

While I like Hibbert, do you really think he would be a good fit with the way Byron wants to push the ball? Of course if/when we make the playoffs it becomes more of a half court game but he is kind of a lumbering traditional type of C. Also, I cant see Indiana not giving him a max type of deal if they have cap space available (dont know their situation).

[Nirvana]

Al Jeff is an intriguing player to me. He's certainly got a skillset and post-scoring ability that we don't have on the team. I do wonder how he'd do in our system and how well he played off of Deron. He's 27, so there's potential for him to be a piece of the team for some time. (Keep in mind, my view of Jefferson might be skewed by the way he decimated us the last time we played the Jazz.)

I'm sort of at the point where I don't think the OKC model (three top 5 picks) is ever going to happen, so we'll have to improve through trades and very solid drafting in the late lottery/mid-first. Our coach and rookie PG are just too good. One good thing about this, though, is that Kyrie should be able to make our picks better and give them the best chance of succeeding at the next level.

Kyrie
2012 top pick (Lamb or Beal?)
Gee/Casspi
Jefferson/Thompson
AV/Erden

I think that's a pretty good team with potential to get much better in a short period of time. We'll also have enough assets and young players that we'll be able to make more trades in the future. Maybe we can pull off more of a "Boston style" rebuild than an OKC one.

[KuruptedCav]

While I like Hibbert, do you really think he would be a good fit with the way Byron wants to push the ball? Of course if/when we make the playoffs it becomes more of a half court game but he is kind of a lumbering traditional type of C. Also, I cant see Indiana not giving him a max type of deal if they have cap space available (dont know their situation).

I don't think he fits what the Cavs are doing now, I'm just not sure if Scott is running because that's the style he wants or if he's running because that's taking advantage of the skill-set of the players on the team. He ran the up-tempo in NJ when he had Kidd running the show, but then slowed it down with BDavis in NO.

I think a team can overpay for Hibbert. Indiana had their chance and chose not to. He's going to be someone's consolation prize when they whiff on Howard.

[mcfly1204]

I said this a few posts ago, but I feel someone like Bargnani would fit well in Cleveland. He can defend in the post a bit, where he seems to struggle is when he has to move around and step out on someone. If paired with Varejao or Thompson, a lot of his deficiencies should be masked. The plus is that he has three point range and he can score the ball. With players like Thompson, Varejao, Gee, and Eyenga running the break and finishing, Bargnani can trail and possibly knock down a three if the ball is kicked out. Another plus to Bargnani is that I do not think we would have to see the farm to acquire him.

Irving/Sessions
(Beal/Lamb/Ross)/Gibson
Gee/Casspi
Thompson/Varejao/Samuels
Bargnani/Varejao/Erden

You have defenders, scorers, a good amount of shooters, and nice depth. Such a group feels as though they could be a key FA signing or two away from being a legit team.

[kiwibrindle]

Man now I'm feeling sick that's twice on one web page where the name Casspi apprears in the future of the Cavs. Ugh

Our biggest needs are a 5 that can score and rebound and a 2 that can score at will (but those aren't the only needs for sure).

What about:

Picking up the ugliest center in the world Chris Kaman for around 11 mm a year for 3 years maybe a 4year team option

Resign Jamison for about 4 to 5 mm a year and a team option second year

Sign Ray Allen to a 3 year 7 to 8 a year deal third year team option

and Sign Carlos Delfino to a 3 year 5 to 6 million dollar contract third year is a team option

Draft (Beal/Lamb/Ross) and the lineup can be:

Irving/Sessions
(Beal/Lamb/Ross)/Allen
Delfino/Gee
Jamison/Thompson
Caman/Varejao

and you've spent 30 million and can win

Bargnani would be fine I just doubt his tuffness

[gflem]

The only thing I like about the Kiwi post is Beal or Lamb. The rest....ugh.

[Nirvana]

Reminds me of when we signed Z, Donyell, Hughes, and Damon Jones and had no cap space ever again.

[kiwibrindle]

Fair enough that is the way Ferry tried to do it. Nut I'm tried of sucking since ladushbag booked. Al \l I have to root for is a certain Heat member breaking a neck and not just a leg.

[Rise Against]

^^ Can you be anymore sympathetic? Lol.

But let's not waste our cap space like that ever again.. Ever.

[Jajwanda]

Question on Sessions. How does he look guarding 2s?

[B Mac]

Question on Sessions. How does he look guarding 2s?

He's lockdown. Give us your 1st!

[Triumph36]

Man now I'm feeling sick that's twice on one web page where the name Casspi apprears in the future of the Cavs. Ugh

Our biggest needs are a 5 that can score and rebound and a 2 that can score at will (but those aren't the only needs for sure).

What about:

Picking up the ugliest center in the world Chris Kaman for around 11 mm a year for 3 years maybe a 4year team option

Resign Jamison for about 4 to 5 mm a year and a team option second year

Sign Ray Allen to a 3 year 7 to 8 a year deal third year team option

and Sign Carlos Delfino to a 3 year 5 to 6 million dollar contract third year is a team option

Draft (Beal/Lamb/Ross) and the lineup can be:

Irving/Sessions
(Beal/Lamb/Ross)/Allen
Delfino/Gee
Jamison/Thompson
Caman/Varejao

and you've spent 30 million and can win

Bargnani would be fine I just doubt his tuffness

Getting spanked in the first round isn't considered "winning" in most peoples' books.

[Jajwanda]

Question on Sessions. How does he look guarding 2s?

He's lockdown. Give us your 1st!

Include Cleveland's second and find a way to do it without the TPE.

[Niko23]

Sessions/Casspi/Parker for

Walton, Troy Murphy, DAL 1st and LAL 1st.

You guys save your TPE for another deal.

[Jajwanda]

Barnes+Kapono+Murphy I think does the job too.

[TheOUTLAW]

Who wants any of those guys? You seem like you don't understand what we are trying to do here.

[Rise Against]

I rather have Sessions as our backup PG than to have any of those guys. We need a first round pick.