Trade Ideas

[mcfly1204]

Thinking about a Dean Wade for Christian Wood sign and trade... Reasons for and against.

Wade is cheap, a better defender, and can play some SF. I was interested in Wood on a cheap prove-it deal, but not after signing Niang.

[jbk1234]

Thinking about a Dean Wade for Christian Wood sign and trade... Reasons for and against.

I think Wade's defense has to win out here.

[JujitsuFlip]

Thinking about a Dean Wade for Christian Wood sign and trade... Reasons for and against.

Since it seems they're trying to avoid the tax this season, I doubt Wood comes here for like $6 million, he just made $14 million last year. Outside of his attitude issues this could also be why he's still a free agent, overestimating his value.

[toooskies]

Thinking about a Dean Wade for Christian Wood sign and trade... Reasons for and against.

Since it seems they're trying to avoid the tax this season, I doubt Wood comes here for like $6 million, he just made $14 million last year. Outside of his attitude issues this could also be why he's still a free agent, overestimating his value.

Just saying there aren't a lot of teams left to pay him. A S&T for $6m might be his ceiling, depending on what happens with Harden and Lillard.

[JujitsuFlip]

Thinking about a Dean Wade for Christian Wood sign and trade... Reasons for and against.

Since it seems they're trying to avoid the tax this season, I doubt Wood comes here for like $6 million, he just made $14 million last year. Outside of his attitude issues this could also be why he's still a free agent, overestimating his value.

Just saying there aren't a lot of teams left to pay him. A S&T for $6m might be his ceiling, depending on what happens with Harden and Lillard.

If he comes to the conclusion he's not going to get paid, he'll probably either ring chase or sign with the team offering the biggest role, which I don't think CLE would be leading candidates for either choice.

[toooskies]

Since it seems they're trying to avoid the tax this season, I doubt Wood comes here for like $6 million, he just made $14 million last year. Outside of his attitude issues this could also be why he's still a free agent, overestimating his value.

Just saying there aren't a lot of teams left to pay him. A S&T for $6m might be his ceiling, depending on what happens with Harden and Lillard.

If he comes to the conclusion he's not going to get paid, he'll probably either ring chase or sign with the team offering the biggest role, which I don't think CLE would be leading candidates for either choice.

He's not going to start anywhere but I think he'd be our third big.

[jbk1234]

Just saying there aren't a lot of teams left to pay him. A S&T for $6m might be his ceiling, depending on what happens with Harden and Lillard.

If he comes to the conclusion he's not going to get paid, he'll probably either ring chase or sign with the team offering the biggest role, which I don't think CLE would be leading candidates for either choice.

He's not going to start anywhere but I think he'd be our third big.

I don't think we use that much of the MLE on Niang to turn around and sign Wood. Also, at least one of your bench bigs needs to be able to defend a chair.

[JujitsuFlip]

If he comes to the conclusion he's not going to get paid, he'll probably either ring chase or sign with the team offering the biggest role, which I don't think CLE would be leading candidates for either choice.

He's not going to start anywhere but I think he'd be our third big.

I don't think we use that much of the MLE on Niang to turn around and sign Wood. Also, at least one of your bench bigs needs to be able to defend a chair.

Hopefully that's Jones.

[jbk1234]

He's not going to start anywhere but I think he'd be our third big.

I don't think we use that much of the MLE on Niang to turn around and sign Wood. Also, at least one of your bench bigs needs to be able to defend a chair.

Hopefully that's Jones.

Hopefully, Jones is an emergency backup.

[toooskies]

I don't think we use that much of the MLE on Niang to turn around and sign Wood. Also, at least one of your bench bigs needs to be able to defend a chair.

Hopefully that's Jones.

Hopefully, Jones is an emergency backup.

I'd play Wood in Love's minutes and Niang in Osman's minutes.

[jbk1234]

Hopefully that's Jones.

Hopefully, Jones is an emergency backup.

I'd play Wood in Love's minutes and Niang in Osman's minutes.

You know me, I love shooting, but after the guys we just signed, I think swapping Wade for Wood is an over correction. Wade is a solid defender. Neither Niang nor Wood are. They're flat out bad on that end tbh.

[JujitsuFlip]

Hopefully that's Jones.

Hopefully, Jones is an emergency backup.

I'd play Wood in Love's minutes and Niang in Osman's minutes.

Niang will get Love's minutes and whoever backs up Strus will get Cedi's minutes.

[toooskies]

Hopefully, Jones is an emergency backup.

I'd play Wood in Love's minutes and Niang in Osman's minutes.

Niang will get Love's minutes and whoever backs up Strus will get Cedi's minutes.

That's the thing though, Niang getting Love's minutes is going to kill our bench rebounding. Neither Allen nor Mobley are elite rebounders, nor do we have any plus rebounding wings.

Maybe Wood isn't the answer but I'm not as sold on Wade being good as much as you all are.

[ijspeelman]

I'd play Wood in Love's minutes and Niang in Osman's minutes.

Niang will get Love's minutes and whoever backs up Strus will get Cedi's minutes.

That's the thing though, Niang getting Love's minutes is going to kill our bench rebounding. Neither Allen nor Mobley are elite rebounders, nor do we have any plus rebounding wings.

Maybe Wood isn't the answer but I'm not as sold on Wade being good as much as you all are.

I think the problem with rating Wade is that we have seen hypothetical Wade over a large-ish sample so we assume that that is Wade. I mean, it could be, but in reality he's probably a solid to alright back-up 3/4. At the beginning of the 22-23 season he looked like the starting wing we needed.

[jbk1234]

Niang will get Love's minutes and whoever backs up Strus will get Cedi's minutes.

That's the thing though, Niang getting Love's minutes is going to kill our bench rebounding. Neither Allen nor Mobley are elite rebounders, nor do we have any plus rebounding wings.

Maybe Wood isn't the answer but I'm not as sold on Wade being good as much as you all are.

I think the problem with rating Wade is that we have seen hypothetical Wade over a large-ish sample so we assume that that is Wade. I mean, it could be, but in reality he's probably a solid to alright back-up 3/4. At the beginning of the 22-23 season he looked like the starting wing we needed.

I have Wade as a solid defender and defensive rebounder with him being pretty consistent on both fronts. Availability and, at least for ten or so games last seaaon, confidence in his shot, are his biggest issues. He's going to start getting a lot of open looks after swapping Stevens and Cedi for Niang and Strus. I'd give him at least another half season and keep an eye on Pete Nance with the Charge in the interim.

I think Woods' defense isn't really salvageable at this point and you really shouldn't have more than one guy like that on the roster. Defensive rebounding only becomes an issue when the other team misses. Team rebounding needs to be a theme this season.

[mcfly1204]

Last season, between Osman, Stevens, Wade, and Love, you had 4,380 minutes played, which breaks down to 53.4mpg. I don't see LeVert dropping much below the 30mpg he played, nor do I see Okoro dropping much below his 22mpg. This feels like a case of the minutes likely being split between one of Wade and Niang, along with Strus getting the other half (~27mpg).

[jbk1234]

Last season, between Osman, Stevens, Wade, and Love, you had 4,380 minutes played, which breaks down to 53.4mpg. I don't see LeVert dropping much below the 30mpg he played, nor do I see Okoro dropping much below his 22mpg. This feels like a case of the minutes likely being split between one of Wade and Niang, along with Strus getting the other half (~27mpg).

It's difficult to predict injuries, but LeVert's minutes were a little inflated by Garland and Okoro missing games. I suspect Okoro's minutes are tied to Rubio's knee. Is he part of a three guard rotation, or a 4 guard rotation?

But if Strus doesn't get more minutes than Cedi did, that's an L. You're paying him a lot more money.

[toooskies]

Last season, between Osman, Stevens, Wade, and Love, you had 4,380 minutes played, which breaks down to 53.4mpg. I don't see LeVert dropping much below the 30mpg he played, nor do I see Okoro dropping much below his 22mpg. This feels like a case of the minutes likely being split between one of Wade and Niang, along with Strus getting the other half (~27mpg).

It's difficult to predict injuries, but LeVert's minutes were a little inflated by Garland and Okoro missing games. I suspect Okoro's minutes are tied to Rubio's knee. Is he part of a three guard rotation, or a 4 guard rotation?

But if Strus doesn't get more minutes than Cedi did, that's an L. You're paying him a lot more money.

I think of we are trying to get more shooting on the floor then Rubio doesn't see the court.

[JujitsuFlip]

Last season, between Osman, Stevens, Wade, and Love, you had 4,380 minutes played, which breaks down to 53.4mpg. I don't see LeVert dropping much below the 30mpg he played, nor do I see Okoro dropping much below his 22mpg. This feels like a case of the minutes likely being split between one of Wade and Niang, along with Strus getting the other half (~27mpg).

It's difficult to predict injuries, but LeVert's minutes were a little inflated by Garland and Okoro missing games. I suspect Okoro's minutes are tied to Rubio's knee. Is he part of a three guard rotation, or a 4 guard rotation?

But if Strus doesn't get more minutes than Cedi did, that's an L. You're paying him a lot more money.

I think of we are trying to get more shooting on the floor then Rubio doesn't see the court.

When healthy, someone, maybe even 2 will have to get squeezed out. If Rubio is still cooked, you're right, that's a good option to bench.

[JujitsuFlip]

I'd play Wood in Love's minutes and Niang in Osman's minutes.

Niang will get Love's minutes and whoever backs up Strus will get Cedi's minutes.

That's the thing though, Niang getting Love's minutes is going to kill our bench rebounding. Neither Allen nor Mobley are elite rebounders, nor do we have any plus rebounding wings.

Maybe Wood isn't the answer but I'm not as sold on Wade being good as much as you all are.

It's a give and take, Cavs focused on shooting this summer. Rebounding and defense are gonna have to come from elsewhere on the roster.

Also, I don't really rate Wade very high. I believe these signings just put him back in his 5th forward role.

Mobley will start 4 and slide to 5, Niang will be Mobley's primary back-up at 4 and play next to Mobley or Allen in his minutes.

Strus in my opinion will start 3 and situationally can slide down to 2, if needed to play with Garland or Mitchell in the backcourt but a lion share of his minutes will be at starting SF. I'm not sure who is gonna back him up, it'll either be Okoro or LeVert and the other will be the 3rd guard in a rotation with Garland and Mitchell. I'm sure Mitchell is gonna slide to 1 again to handle the ball when Garland goes to the bench.

That leaves Wade picking up whatever minutes are left behind Mobley and Niang at 4 and Strus and his backup at 3.

However, if Niang is hurt or in foul trouble, Wade can slot into the back-up stretch 4 role behind Mobley. If Strus is hurt, he can slot into the starting 3 role if they need shooting or if Niang slides in with the starters at 3, Wade can again play the back-up stretch 4 role.

That's just to start the season though, if Niang and/or Strus get in JB's doghouse then Wade will have chances to climb the depth chart.