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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1661 » by JonFromVA » Wed Jan 3, 2024 11:37 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
toooskies wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:I've watched a grand total of 2 games this season

Thank you for this information.
You coulda asked Jon, he'll tell ya lol

It's not my fault the NBA considers someone 4 hours from the arena "in-market", sorry not driving a nearly 500 mile round trip on a work night to watch a Cavs game in person.

I've watched hundreds of NBA games this season, the NBA just blacks out games for paying customers on the streaming service they provide.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Nah, when you mentioned you'd be able to watch games this season I just assumed that meant you'd be getting to watch more Cavs games.

Sorry to hear that's not the case.

Once upon a team being "in market" meant you could watch the games with a TV antenna.
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1662 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Jan 4, 2024 12:49 am

JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
toooskies wrote:Thank you for this information.
You coulda asked Jon, he'll tell ya lol

It's not my fault the NBA considers someone 4 hours from the arena "in-market", sorry not driving a nearly 500 mile round trip on a work night to watch a Cavs game in person.

I've watched hundreds of NBA games this season, the NBA just blacks out games for paying customers on the streaming service they provide.

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Nah, when you mentioned you'd be able to watch games this season I just assumed that meant you'd be getting to watch more Cavs games.

Sorry to hear that's not the case.

Once upon a team being "in market" meant you could watch the games with a TV antenna.

When i had league pass like nearly a decade ago, that is what it meant. So idk if they expanded who was "in-market" for the Cavs since then or if the league pass rules just changed.

I was gonna get that only Cavs game app but price is still too high for me to want to invest, jbk was having issues with it at the start of the season, and Bally filed bankruptcy.

I have an antenna but i only get broadcast channels (CBS, ABC, NBC, and Fox). So i can watch like every NFL game besides non-local Thursday night games. 1pm and 4pm games are on CBS or Fox, SNF is on NBC and MNF is on ABC as an ESPN offering. So, i think the NFL has figured out a much better way to make viewing access free and easy for their fans. The NFL also did away with local market blackouts a few years back. So, I can't get Bally Sports because it's a cable channel, not offered over the airways.

The 2 Cavs games i have watched this season were via the TNT Overtime app, so behind the basket camera angle and no commentary.
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1663 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Jan 4, 2024 2:11 am

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JujitsuFlip wrote:On the brightside, in theory the Cavs should win their next 3 games to be on a 3 game win streak headed to Paris.


Let's see if we can pull off a 30+ assist game with Mitchell and LeVert back in the rotation.
There ya go, 37 assists in a blowout win.
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1664 » by mcfly1204 » Thu Jan 4, 2024 2:24 am

Jarrett Allen over his last 10:

17.7ppg/11.3rpg/4.0apg, while maintaining his season-long FG% of 67%. Still hoping someone steps up at the 4 spot in the near future.
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1665 » by ijspeelman » Thu Jan 4, 2024 2:27 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:On the brightside, in theory the Cavs should win their next 3 games to be on a 3 game win streak headed to Paris.


Let's see if we can pull off a 30+ assist game with Mitchell and LeVert back in the rotation.
There ya go, 37 assists in a blowout win.


7 assists from noted point forward Jarrett Allen and 6 from pure point Sam Merrill
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1666 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Jan 4, 2024 2:51 am

mcfly1204 wrote:Jarrett Allen over his last 10:

17.7ppg/11.3rpg/4.0apg, while maintaining his season-long FG% of 67%. Still hoping someone steps up at the 4 spot in the near future.
It's too bad him and Mobley's games have so much overlap. They're both awesome as lone big men and still young.
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1667 » by JonFromVA » Thu Jan 4, 2024 2:54 am

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JujitsuFlip wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
Let's see if we can pull off a 30+ assist game with Mitchell and LeVert back in the rotation.
There ya go, 37 assists in a blowout win.


7 assists from noted point forward Jarrett Allen and 6 from pure point Sam Merrill


So, jbk is correct that a crappy defensive team helps a lot, but my perspective is you don't just go from A to B - there's a process and it starts by showing you can do what you want against lesser opponents. If trust actually sinks in they may eventually stick with it even when it doesn't seem to be working.

What is the team record, btw?
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1668 » by JonFromVA » Thu Jan 4, 2024 3:02 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:
mcfly1204 wrote:Jarrett Allen over his last 10:

17.7ppg/11.3rpg/4.0apg, while maintaining his season-long FG% of 67%. Still hoping someone steps up at the 4 spot in the near future.
It's too bad him and Mobley's games have so much overlap. They're both awesome as lone big men and still young.


They're awesome together too, but there's only so many touches and rebounds to go around.

Roughly 24 minutes with 2 of them and 24 with 1 of them.
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1669 » by mcfly1204 » Thu Jan 4, 2024 3:16 am

JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
mcfly1204 wrote:Jarrett Allen over his last 10:

17.7ppg/11.3rpg/4.0apg, while maintaining his season-long FG% of 67%. Still hoping someone steps up at the 4 spot in the near future.
It's too bad him and Mobley's games have so much overlap. They're both awesome as lone big men and still young.


They're awesome together too, but there's only so many touches and rebounds to go around.

Roughly 24 minutes with 2 of them and 24 with 1 of them.

I'd also love to see a higher volume three point shooter at the 3. Going from Lauri's 6.2 3apg to Okoro's 2.3. Can't help but wonder how the front court would look with that threat there regularly.
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1670 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Jan 4, 2024 3:20 am

mcfly1204 wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:It's too bad him and Mobley's games have so much overlap. They're both awesome as lone big men and still young.


They're awesome together too, but there's only so many touches and rebounds to go around.

Roughly 24 minutes with 2 of them and 24 with 1 of them.

I'd also love to see a higher volume three point shooter at the 3. Going from Lauri's 6.2 3apg to Okoro's 2.3. Can't help but wonder how the front court would look with that threat there regularly.

Strus is at 8.3 FAPG from deep...
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1671 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Jan 4, 2024 4:16 am

JonFromVA wrote:
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JujitsuFlip wrote:There ya go, 37 assists in a blowout win.


7 assists from noted point forward Jarrett Allen and 6 from pure point Sam Merrill


So, jbk is correct that a crappy defensive team helps a lot, but my perspective is you don't just go from A to B - there's a process and it starts by showing you can do what you want against lesser opponents. If trust actually sinks in they may eventually stick with it even when it doesn't seem to be working.

What is the team record, btw?
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1672 » by toooskies » Thu Jan 4, 2024 4:20 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:
mcfly1204 wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
They're awesome together too, but there's only so many touches and rebounds to go around.

Roughly 24 minutes with 2 of them and 24 with 1 of them.

I'd also love to see a higher volume three point shooter at the 3. Going from Lauri's 6.2 3apg to Okoro's 2.3. Can't help but wonder how the front court would look with that threat there regularly.

Strus is at 8.3 FAPG from deep...

And when Sexton went down, Okoro started at the 2.
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1673 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Jan 4, 2024 4:30 am

toooskies wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
mcfly1204 wrote:I'd also love to see a higher volume three point shooter at the 3. Going from Lauri's 6.2 3apg to Okoro's 2.3. Can't help but wonder how the front court would look with that threat there regularly.

Strus is at 8.3 FAPG from deep...

And when Sexton went down, Okoro started at the 2.

How's that relevant to the conversation? lol that was 2 seasons ago.

McFly is saying from when we lost Lauri, then Okoro started in his place the following season.

The issue is McFly is insinuating (as he has since game 1 back in October) that Okoro is still the starting 3 on this team, some strange narrative, that i will never understand.
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1674 » by toooskies » Thu Jan 4, 2024 4:35 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:
toooskies wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Strus is at 8.3 FAPG from deep...

And when Sexton went down, Okoro started at the 2.

How's that relevant to the conversation? lol that was 2 seasons ago.

McFly is saying from when we lost Lauri, then Okoro started in his place the following season.

The issue is McFly is insinuating (as he has since game 1 back in October) that Okoro is still the starting 3 on this team, some strange narrative, that i will never understand.

Mitchell replaced Lauri as a starter in the lineup. Our shooting never got worse.
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1675 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Jan 4, 2024 4:50 am

toooskies wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
toooskies wrote:And when Sexton went down, Okoro started at the 2.

How's that relevant to the conversation? lol that was 2 seasons ago.

McFly is saying from when we lost Lauri, then Okoro started in his place the following season.

The issue is McFly is insinuating (as he has since game 1 back in October) that Okoro is still the starting 3 on this team, some strange narrative, that i will never understand.

Mitchell replaced Lauri as a starter in the lineup. Our shooting never got worse.
McFly is just insinuating the Cavs play Okro, Mobley, and Allen as their starting 3 front court players who can't shoot, despite Strus being here and jacking up 8 threes per game, not missing a single game this season.

McFly doesn't have to wonder what it would be like to have someone like Lauri shooting 6.2 from deep per game next to Allen and Mobley bc the Cavs have Strus who actually shoots even beyond that figure.
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1676 » by toooskies » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:31 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:
toooskies wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:How's that relevant to the conversation? lol that was 2 seasons ago.

McFly is saying from when we lost Lauri, then Okoro started in his place the following season.

The issue is McFly is insinuating (as he has since game 1 back in October) that Okoro is still the starting 3 on this team, some strange narrative, that i will never understand.

Mitchell replaced Lauri as a starter in the lineup. Our shooting never got worse.
McFly is just insinuating the Cavs play Okro, Mobley, and Allen as their starting 3 front court players who can't shoot, despite Strus being here and jacking up 8 threes per game, not missing a single game this season.

McFly doesn't have to wonder what it would be like to have someone like Lauri shooting 6.2 from deep per game next to Allen and Mobley bc the Cavs have Strus who actually shoots even beyond that figure.

And I'm saying Mitchell already improved the shooting of the starters before Strus got here. Last year's starters had more talent than the Lauri year. Okoro was a starter on both teams (eventually), he did not replace Lauri.
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1677 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:58 am

toooskies wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
toooskies wrote:Mitchell replaced Lauri as a starter in the lineup. Our shooting never got worse.
McFly is just insinuating the Cavs play Okro, Mobley, and Allen as their starting 3 front court players who can't shoot, despite Strus being here and jacking up 8 threes per game, not missing a single game this season.

McFly doesn't have to wonder what it would be like to have someone like Lauri shooting 6.2 from deep per game next to Allen and Mobley bc the Cavs have Strus who actually shoots even beyond that figure.

And I'm saying Mitchell already improved the shooting of the starters before Strus got here. Last year's starters had more talent than the Lauri year. Okoro was a starter on both teams (eventually), he did not replace Lauri.

Not really tho.

Garland/Okoro/Lauri/Mobley/Allen

Garland/Mitchell/Okoro/Mobley/Allen

It's still 3 cats who can't shoot, no matter how you slice it. Mitchell isn't so much better that he can offset 3 dudes not looking at an outside shot, hence the whole reason they went and got Strus.

Why McFly refuses to acknowledge Strus as our starting SF is beyond me.

Garland/Mitchell/Strus/Mobley/Allen
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1678 » by JonFromVA » Thu Jan 4, 2024 4:40 pm

Not to mention, but Sam Merrill is firing up 3pters at a Steph Curry like rate at a Steph Curry like 3pt%.
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1679 » by ijspeelman » Thu Jan 4, 2024 4:40 pm

With Rubio bought out, I assume that opens up space for CPJ to be converted to a full-time roster spot
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1680 » by JonFromVA » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:08 pm

ijspeelman wrote:With Rubio bought out, I assume that opens up space for CPJ to be converted to a full-time roster spot


The spot was never the problem, it's the luxury tax implications and saving some flexibility for trades even if it's just so we can trade 1 player for 2 then waive 1.

If a Rubio buyout buys us some cap space, that could help.

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