SarcasticSun wrote:Clearly this list is correct. Dragic is not better than Rose, the man who hasn't played at all, or even wade, who only played half of last season. Clearly, we have to live in the past and remember that there once was a time Kobe, Wade, and Rose were top 20. Forget about the terrible/nonexistent season those three just put together and live in the past. And why wouldn't we live in the past? If we didn't then trying to keep Dragic off the top 20 list would fail, duh. It is necessary for us to deny what is obvious, because we cannot accept being wrong and losing to those smug message board men. Why else do you think we had to reach and put Lowry in the top 20? Times are tough. Lastly, remember to deny that Dragic and Lillard are a wash and have identical statistics...wouldn't want to be wrong now would we. Phoenix is a terrible franchise and will never get LeBron, he obviously wants to play for the mighty Cavaliers team who will probably surround him with amazing talent again, talent like Larry Hughes, Mo Williams, Michael Jordan, and Luke Walton. Can't wait to prove these guys wrong.
I listed 32 players, and said there werent 20 people on that list who he was better than. Even if you take off Kobe, Wade, Rose, Lowry, and Lillard that still leaves 28 other guys on that list. I think there is a legitimate case that Dragic is better than 3 to 4 more of those players, which is why I originally said I have him 25th or 26th in the league.
Otherwise, I can deal without all of the other garbage in the post. Usually I find that if you dont have a solid argument, leaning heavily on sarcasm is a major crutch. Is it too much to ask to have a genuine debate without insults?
Personally I have a tough time not ranking Wade and Lillard slightly above him. People will remember Wade in the Finals and say that is the player he is, but you cant forget what he did in the playoffs to help get the Heat to the Finals, plus the many nights he carried the team during the regular season. Also, Lillard had a very similar statline to Dragic, and is many years younger. They might be about a wash currently, but I expect that to change very shortly. I'll give you Kobe. While still an amazing talent, he's older and has had some major injuries. Still a top 30 player to me if he comes back even close to healthy. Lowry might surprise a lot of people with how good of a season he had up North. I do have Dragic in front of him, but its a lot closer than might be expected.
Once again, I welcome debates, but insulting our team is going to have to stop on our board.