Minor League Thread - 2009 Version

Post #21 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:38 am

Good points guys, I guess I'm just from the school of wanting to see a guy prove he can completely handle a level before putting him on the cusp of the majors...especially considering how young Martinez still is for AA, none the less AAA. With his skill I'm sure he can handle it.

Knicksfan1 · Post #22 » by **Knicksfan1** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:45 am

Sorry guys, I dont know much about farm systems and the minor league, but do we have some good pitching prospect because I dont want to watch Perez pitch, this guy is a lazy f... sorry for the noobish question

blueNorange · Post #23 » by **blueNorange** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:17 am

Knicksfan1 wrote:Sorry guys, I dont know much about farm systems and the minor league, but do we have some good pitching prospect because I dont want to watch Perez pitch, this guy is a lazy f... sorry for the noobish question

yeah but they're all too young and raw ... the only guy who's almost ready is brad holt.

http://thebaseballcube.com/players/H/Bradley-Holt.shtml

he needs to work on his secondary pitches but according to toby hyde and some scouts his secondary pitches are actually better than his scouting report which says he has none.

i'm a big fan though of robert carson, he's a guy i'm gonna follow this year.

Knicksfan1 · Post #24 » by **Knicksfan1** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:24 am

blueNorange wrote:
Knicksfan1 wrote:Sorry guys, I dont know much about farm systems and the minor league, but do we have some good pitching prospect because I dont want to watch Perez pitch, this guy is a lazy f... sorry for the noobish question

yeah but they're all too young and raw ... the only guy who's almost ready is brad holt.

http://thebaseballcube.com/players/H/Bradley-Holt.shtml

he needs to work on his secondary pitches but according to toby hyde and some scouts his secondary pitches are actually better than his scouting report which says he has none.

His stats are very good, but then again that is the minors,how long do you think till we call him up, I dont want us to bring him when his not really ready, what is his upside, again sorry I dont really know to much about the minors :oops:

blueNorange · Post #25 » by **blueNorange** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:32 am

Knicksfan1 wrote:
blueNorange wrote:
Knicksfan1 wrote:Sorry guys, I dont know much about farm systems and the minor league, but do we have some good pitching prospect because I dont want to watch Perez pitch, this guy is a lazy f... sorry for the noobish question

yeah but they're all too young and raw ... the only guy who's almost ready is brad holt.

http://thebaseballcube.com/players/H/Bradley-Holt.shtml

he needs to work on his secondary pitches but according to toby hyde and some scouts his secondary pitches are actually better than his scouting report which says he has none.

His stats are very good, but then again that is the minors,how long do you think till we call him up, I dont want us to bring him when his not really ready, what is his upside, again sorry I dont really know to much about the minors

his upside is a #2 i guess ... but if it never works out then he can always end up being a very good reliever because his mid 90's fastball is very live and has great movement. if he has a very good year then he can get a september callup, next year he has a good chance but don't think he's gonna come and replace perez because that's not gonna happen.

Knicksfan1 · Post #26 » by **Knicksfan1** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:36 am

blueNorange wrote:
Knicksfan1 wrote:
blueNorange wrote:yeah but they're all too young and raw ... the only guy who's almost ready is brad holt.

http://thebaseballcube.com/players/H/Bradley-Holt.shtml

he needs to work on his secondary pitches but according to toby hyde and some scouts his secondary pitches are actually better than his scouting report which says he has none.

His stats are very good, but then again that is the minors,how long do you think till we call him up, I dont want us to bring him when his not really ready, what is his upside, again sorry I dont really know to much about the minors

his upside is a #2 i guess ... but if it never works out then he can always end up being a very good reliever because his mid 90's fastball is very live and has great movement. if he has a very good year then he can get a september callup, next year he has a good chance but don't think he's gonna come and replace perez because that's not gonna happen.

Maybe he can be the 5th starter over Hernandez

blueNorange · Post #27 » by **blueNorange** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:44 am

Knicksfan1 wrote:Maybe he can be the 5th starter over Hernandez

doubt it ... that spot is for niese or gee who are both in tripe a.

Post #28 » by **Manhattan Project** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:50 am

Knicksfan1 wrote:Sorry guys, I dont know much about farm systems and the minor league, but do we have some good pitching prospect because I dont want to watch Perez pitch, this guy is a lazy f... sorry for the noobish question

Sure we have:
Phil Humber
Kevin Mulvey
Deolis Guerra

Actually we don't, its amazing how much it takes to land a guy like Santana. Like said it's Neise and Holt who will probably become the fifth starter down the road. However im convinced that there will be a trade.

Knicksfan1 · Post #29 » by **Knicksfan1** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:02 am

Manhattan Project wrote:
Knicksfan1 wrote:Sorry guys, I dont know much about farm systems and the minor league, but do we have some good pitching prospect because I dont want to watch Perez pitch, this guy is a lazy f... sorry for the noobish question

Sure we have:
Phil Humber
Kevin Mulvey
Deolis Guerra

Actually we don't, its amazing how much it takes to land a guy like Santana. Like said it's Neise and Holt who will probably become the fifth starter down the road. However im convinced that there will be a trade.

Still, worth it Santana is a monster, none of them will come close to his lvl of dominance, I think we need get a young pitching core kinda like the Marlins, who I think has a very good 3 man rotation, I dont really want us to waste more assets just for one pitcher unless its Holiday.

Post #30 » by **Manhattan Project** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:05 am

Knicksfan1 wrote:
Manhattan Project wrote:
Knicksfan1 wrote:Sorry guys, I dont know much about farm systems and the minor league, but do we have some good pitching prospect because I dont want to watch Perez pitch, this guy is a lazy f... sorry for the noobish question

Sure we have:
Phil Humber
Kevin Mulvey
Deolis Guerra

Actually we don't, its amazing how much it takes to land a guy like Santana. Like said it's Neise and Holt who will probably become the fifth starter down the road. However im convinced that there will be a trade.

Still, worth it Santana is a monster, none of them will come close to his lvl of dominance, I think we need get a young pitching core kinda like the Marlins, who I think has a very good 3 man rotation, I dont really want us to waste more assets just for one pitcher unless its Holiday.

Without a doubt, but that move did set us back just a bit in the pitching prospect department.

blueNorange · Post #31 » by **blueNorange** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:25 am

Manhattan Project wrote:Without a doubt, but that move did set us back just a bit in the pitching prospect department.

not really

elvin ramirez
brad holt
jenry mejia
robert carson
jon niese
dillon gee
scott moviel
michael antonini
james fuller
angel calero
eric beaulac
kyle allen
scott shaw
jeurys familia

mets have a lot of starting pitching prospects but they're too raw, young, and don't have enough years to lable them a flop or a blue chipper.

this is a big year for the mets farm system ... if half of those pitchers have a good year then the mets easily have a top 10 farm system.

Post #32 » by **Manhattan Project** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:38 pm

blueNorange wrote:
Manhattan Project wrote:Without a doubt, but that move did set us back just a bit in the pitching prospect department.

not really

elvin ramirez
brad holt
jenry mejia
robert carson
jon niese
dillon gee
scott moviel
michael antonini
james fuller
angel calero
eric beaulac
kyle allen
scott shaw
jeurys familia

mets have a lot of starting pitching prospects but they're too raw, young, and don't have enough years to lable them a flop or a blue chipper.

this is a big year for the mets farm system ... if half of those pitchers have a good year then the mets easily have a top 10 farm system.

Aside from Holt and Neise and possibly Dee I don't think the common fan knows any of them. That's fine, I barely know any of them. Im saying though you saw Mulvey in the future's game, Guerra had a lot of hype behind him and Humber made news because of the surgery. Though like you said it's because of the age considering how young most of them are.

blueNorange · Post #33 » by **blueNorange** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:28 am

aaa:

ss - jose coronado - 0 for 3 | bb(2) | .143 ba
dh - fernando martinez - 0 for 4 | .250 ba
1b - nick evans - 0 for 2 | 2 bb(2) | .000 ba
sp - dillon gee - 4.2 ip | 6 h | 3 r(3 er) | 2 bb | 6 k | 0-1 | 5.79 era

aa:

ss - ruben tejada - 0 for 2 | bb(1) | .231 ba
c - jose thole - 1 for 4 | 2b(1) | .286 ba
3b - shawn bowman - 1 for 5 | rbi(3) | .294 ba
1b - lucas duda - 1 for 3 | 2 rbi(2) | 2 bb(5) | .273 ba
rp - roy merritt - 1.0 ip | bb | k | s(2) | 0.00 era

a+:

2b - greg veloz - 2 for 5 | .333 ba
ss - reese havens - 1 for 3 | hr(1) | 2 rbi(2) | bb(1) | .286 ba
cf - kirk nieuwenhuis - 1 for 4 | .250 ba
c - francisco pena - 0 for 3 | bb(1) | .167 ba
1b - ike davis - 1 for 4 | .250 ba
3b - zach lutz - 2 for 3 | hr(1) | 2 rbi(2) | .333 ba
sp - jenry mejia - 4.0 ip | 3 h | 3 r(er) | 3 bb | 6 k | 2.25 era

a:

2b - jordany valdespin - 1 for 5 | 3b(1) | 2 rbi(2) | .222 ba
ss - wilmer flores - 1 for 4 | rbi(2) | .143 ba
cf - sean ratliff - 1 for 3 | bb(1) | .571 ba
c - kai gronauer - 1 for 4 | .286 ba
1b - eric campbell - 2 for 4 | rbi(1) | .375 ba
3b - jefry marte - 0 for 4 | .125 ba
dh - josh satin - 3 for 4 | .500 ba
sp - chris schwinden - 5.0 ip | 5 h | 2 r(er) | bb | k | 1-0 | 1.80 era
rp - rhiner cruz - 2.0 ip | 3 h | 2 k | s(1) | 0.00 era

Knicksfan1 · Post #34 » by **Knicksfan1** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:05 am

Are there any good 2nd base prospects?

blueNorange · Post #35 » by **blueNorange** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:18 am

Knicksfan1 wrote:Are there any good 2nd base prospects?

reese havens who has 20-25 hr potential.

Knicksfan1 · Post #36 » by **Knicksfan1** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:25 am

blueNorange wrote:
Knicksfan1 wrote:Are there any good 2nd base prospects?

reese havens who has 20-25 hr potential.

Ty, I think we only play Luis to justify the money spent... but he is trash

blueNorange · Post #37 » by **blueNorange** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 2:34 am

aaa:

ss - jose coronado - 0 for 3 | bb(3) | .100 ba
dh - fernando martinez - 1 for 4 | 2b(2) | .250 ba
lf - nick evans - 0 for 3 | bb(3) | .000 ba
rp - connor robertson - 2.0 ip | h | r(er) | 0-1 | hr/all | 3.00 era

a+:

2b - greg veloz - 2 for 5 | 2b(1) | .357 ba
ss - reese havens - 1 for 4 | 2b(1) | rbi(3) | .273 ba
3b - zach lutz - 1 for 4 | .300 ba
1b - ike davis - 0 for 4 | .167 ba
c - francisco pena - 1 for 4 | .200 ba
sp - scott shaw - 5.0 ip | 4 h | r(er) | 5 k | 1.80 era
rp - matias carrillo - 3.0 ip | 2 h | 3 r(er) | bb | 0-1 | hr/all | 3.00 era
rp - stephen clyne - 1.0 ip | h | 0.00 era

a:

3b - jefry marte - 3 for 5 | rbi(2) | .308 ba
ss - wilmer flores - 2 for 5 | .250 ba
cf - sean ratliff - 0 for 4 | bb(2) | .364 ba
1b - eric campbell - 1 for 4 | rbi(2) | bb(1) | .333 ba
2b - josh satin - 1 for 3 | bb(1) | .444 ba
sp - jeurys familia - 4.1 ip | 2 h | r | bb | 3 k | 0.00 era
rp - jimmy johnson - 0.2 ip | k | 0.00 era
rp - jeffrey kaplan - 5.0 ip | 4 h | 3 k | 0.00 era
rp - erik turgeon - 1.0 ip | k | 1-0 | 0.00 era

Knicksfan1 · Post #38 » by **Knicksfan1** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:43 am

Is F-Mart a slugger... or is he bad defensively which is why he is a DH.

blueNorange · Post #39 » by **blueNorange** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:09 am

Knicksfan1 wrote:Is F-Mart a slugger... or is he bad defensively which is why he is a DH.

he has potential as a 20-25 hr hitter so yeah, he's a slugger i guess and the reason why he's DH'n because of an elbow strain he suffered in the beginning of spring training.

blueNorange · Post #40 » by **blueNorange** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:46 am

aaa:

dh - fernando martinez - 0 for 4 | 3 bb(3) | .188 ba
1b - nick evans - 1 for 7 | hr(1) | 2 rbi(2) | .063 ba
c - omir santos - 1 for 5 | .250 ba
ss - jose coronado - 0 for 6 | .063 ba
rp - eddie kunz - 2.0 ip | h | 0.00 era

a+:

dh - greg veloz - 2 for 5 | .368 ba
ss - reese havens - 1 for 4 | bb(2) | .267 ba
cf - kirk nieuwenhuis - 1 for 4 | .200 ba
3b - zach lutz - 1 for 3 | bb(1) | .308 ba
1b - ike davis - 1 for 4 | .188 ba
sp - angel calero - 5.0 ip | 3 h | bb | 7 k | 0.00 era
rp - brant rustich - 2.0 ip | 2 h | 3 k | 1-0 | 0.00 era

a:

3b - jefry marte - 1 for 5 | .278 ba
ss - wilmer flores - 2 for 5 | 2bZ(1) | .294 ba
lf - sean ratliff - 2 for 5 | .375 ba
c - kai gronauer - 1 for 3 | rbi(1) | .300 ba
1b - eric campbell - 1 for 4 | hr(1) | 2 rbi(4) | .313 ba
2b - josh satin - 2 for 3 | bb(2) | .500 ba
sp - robert carson - 2.2 ip | 9 h | 7 r(3 er) | 2 k | 0-1 | 10.13 era
rp - wendy rosa - 1.1 ip | 2 h | 4 r(2 er) | 3 bb | 2 k | 13.50 era
rp - josh stinson - 2.0 ip | 2 h | 3 k | 0.00 era
rp - rhiner cruz - 2.0 ip | k | 0.00 era
rp - jimmy johnson - 1.0 ip | k | 0.00 era