Offseason Targets

Post #61 » by **HMFFL** » Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:35 am

DreamTeam09 wrote:Getting rid of Bertans and or THJ should be the offseason plan. That's 37mil in combined salary. That's a max player slot

I have wanted THJ gone before he signed his extension. It's just not wise money being used but he's a heck of alot note productive than Bertan. Bertan has a ten minute window and receives a few 3-point attempts. If he misses, which is often, he's on the bench. Bertans is a liability but we'll be stuck with both for probably the next three seasons.

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Darren · Post #62 » by **Darren** » Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:41 am

If Isaac is available, then I think the Mavs should tender an offer.

arkuo · Post #63 » by **arkuo** » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:03 am

Darren wrote:If Isaac is available, then I think the Mavs should tender an offer.

Isaac is a bit concerning. I think he has not played basketball in 2 years.

Apz · Post #64 » by **Apz** » Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:36 pm

arkuo wrote:
Darren wrote:If Isaac is available, then I think the Mavs should tender an offer.

Isaac is a bit concerning. I think he has not played basketball in 2 years.

Yup, vet min guy value atm. And he got damn weird beliefs, likd kyrie weird

BeiBeau · Post #65 » by **BeiBeau** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 12:55 am

Apz wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Darren wrote:If Isaac is available, then I think the Mavs should tender an offer.

Isaac is a bit concerning. I think he has not played basketball in 2 years.

Yup, vet min guy value atm. And he got damn weird beliefs, likd kyrie weird

Agreed. I don’t trust his injuries and his contract is too big and too long.

LAL1947 · Post #66 » by **LAL1947** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 8:20 am

Apz wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Darren wrote:If Isaac is available, then I think the Mavs should tender an offer.

Isaac is a bit concerning. I think he has not played basketball in 2 years.

Yup, vet min guy value atm. And he got damn weird beliefs, likd kyrie weird

I think you're weirder than Jonathan Isaac.

If the Mavs could actually get him for a Vet Min... that would be an absolute steal, on and off the court. Good players who also have good character are increasingly hard to find.

Apz · Post #67 » by **Apz** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:31 am

LAL1947 wrote:
Apz wrote:
arkuo wrote:Isaac is a bit concerning. I think he has not played basketball in 2 years.

Yup, vet min guy value atm. And he got damn weird beliefs, likd kyrie weird

I think you're weirder than Jonathan Isaac. If the Mavs could actually get him for a Vet Min... that would be an absolute steal, on and off the court. Good players who also have good character are increasingly hard to find.

Yeah he is hard to find. Because he surely aint on court. Almost like he fell of the edge of the world...

Post #68 » by **Mavrelous** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:33 am

I'd try to sell the Magic THJ, he lives in Florida, he's a good veteran presence, and he can replace Harris/Ross roles, and grab Isaac.
Magic aren't in position to give up on him, they aren't going anywhere right now, they paid the price of him missing 30 months, his contract after next year is non-guaranteed due to the injury, he's a low risk high reward guy, it wouldn't make much sense for them to trade him, unless Nico applies some advanced sales man techniques.

LAL1947 · Post #69 » by **LAL1947** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:12 am

Apz wrote:
LAL1947 wrote:[Good players who also have good character are increasingly hard to find.

Yeah he is hard to find. Because he surely aint on court. Almost like he fell of the edge of the world...

Haha, touche.

He isn't a flat-earther like Kyrie btw.

arkuo · Post #70 » by **arkuo** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:44 am

Isaac makes Kristaps Porzingis look like a very sturdy Hakeem Olajuwon. Nico got rid of one injury prone max deal to get another even more injury prone maxed out player. Why?

Darren · Post #71 » by **Darren** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:43 am

Maybe GSW moves Wiseman. Are the Mavs interested? The experiment could be similar to Bamba.

Apz · Post #72 » by **Apz** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:05 pm

Darren wrote:Maybe GSW moves Wiseman. Are the Mavs interested? The experiment could be similar to Bamba.

Depdnds what they want. Barely played. Wouldnt use any 1st, at best a 24 swap. Think his value is so low gsw cant trade him. Unless they need to save tax

Darren · Post #73 » by **Darren** » Thu Jun 16, 2022 2:34 am

Buddy Hield for Hardaway and Powell. Then, spend the MLE on Hartstein. Re-sign Brunson. Pick up undrafted athletic freaks. Then, this offseason is pretty good.

Wood / Kleber / Rookie
DFS / Hartstein / Bertans

Darren · Post #74 » by **Darren** » Thu Jun 16, 2022 2:42 am

Wood / Kleber / Undrafted rookie?
DFS / Hartenstein / Bertans
Luka / Bullock / Green
Buddy / Dinwiddle / Undrafted rookie?
Brunson / Ntilikina / veteran minimum PG

If the Mavs spend cash on 2nd rounders. Then, things could be great. There're quite some deep bench players available in 2nd round.

Apz · Post #75 » by **Apz** » Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:27 am

Why would we trade for hield? Rather have thj then hield. And i dont think we have the mle, Is hartenstein signing for like 6m or whatever the tmle is?

Michaellam1987 · Post #76 » by **Michaellam1987** » Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:44 am

Darren wrote:Buddy Hield for Hardaway and Powell. Then, spend the MLE on Hartstein. Re-sign Brunson. Pick up undrafted athletic freaks. Then, this offseason is pretty good.

Wood / Kleber / Rookie
DFS / Hartstein / Bertans

THJ's contract still have 3 yrs left compared to Hield's 2 yrs left. IND decline unless DAL can add incentives.

Darren · Post #77 » by **Darren** » Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:47 am

Is Howard the final piece at 6M?

Michaellam1987 · Post #78 » by **Michaellam1987** » Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:49 am

KhalilS wrote:I'd try to sell the Magic THJ, he lives in Florida, he's a good veteran presence, and he can replace Harris/Ross roles, and grab Isaac.
Magic aren't in position to give up on him, they aren't going anywhere right now, they paid the price of him missing 30 months, his contract after next year is non-guaranteed due to the injury, he's a low risk high reward guy, it wouldn't make much sense for them to trade him, unless Nico applies some advanced sales man techniques.

Why ORL wants to add THJ and his 3 yrs contract, while giving up Isaac, especially his contract becomes a necessarily an expiring one? They are rumored wanting to get rid of Ross. No way they will take on THJ unless signficant incentives coming in.

Michaellam1987 · Post #79 » by **Michaellam1987** » Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:51 am

arkuo wrote:I wonder if Marvin Bagley can be a reclamation project. He has good size and moves really fast for a 6'10 big. Can switch on defense to smaller wings if he wants to. I mean the motor is there, something you cant teach. If Kidd can teach him how to play defense, then that's your small ball C that won't cost you $30M per year to keep.

It is definitely interesting one, but don't think DET will let Bagley leave for nothing.

Michaellam1987 · Post #80 » by **Michaellam1987** » Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:54 am

DreamTeam09 wrote:
Apz wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:Getting rid of Bertans and or THJ should be the offseason plan. That's 37mil in combined salary. That's a max player slot

And who is this mystery max guy? Need to be a real star if u pay what it takes to dump those 2. Mh opinion is that if we pay that price, we simply doesnt have assets to pay for a star, which makes it pointless.

Everything you said is right, and I don't know who that star is. THJ + Bertans is still a misuse of cap/money on this Mavs roster and it's holes.

In term of misuse of money, you forget to mention we are also paying 20M for Dinwiddie and11M for Powell as well.