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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#781 » by Devassa » Wed May 31, 2017 6:33 pm

dirkforpres wrote:
Mr B wrote:If the team is looking to dump Wes this could be a trading partner. Obviously it would take more than Wes but it would be a great deal for the Mavs if they could end up with both the 9th and 12th picks.

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NBA Draft scuttle: Hearing Detroit is open to discussing trades for its No. 12 overall pick in hopes of acquiring more of a win-now veteran.


Van Gundy would get fired if he traded a lotto pick and the best piece coming back was Wesley Matthews lol

What if we did a Powell, Matthews + 9 for Drummond, Johnson, and 12?


Yikes, I hate it. Johnson hasn't shown enough for this to be an attractive offer, Drummond had a landslide in production this season, and we also move back 3 spots. If we didn't have Noel then maybe this would be ok, but Drummond on a max deal as a backup means we would need way more coming back (another 1st rounder or KCP)
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#782 » by k-lynch201 » Wed May 31, 2017 7:18 pm

Devassa wrote:
dirkforpres wrote:
Mr B wrote:If the team is looking to dump Wes this could be a trading partner. Obviously it would take more than Wes but it would be a great deal for the Mavs if they could end up with both the 9th and 12th picks.

Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine)
5/30/17, 12:57 PM
NBA Draft scuttle: Hearing Detroit is open to discussing trades for its No. 12 overall pick in hopes of acquiring more of a win-now veteran.


Van Gundy would get fired if he traded a lotto pick and the best piece coming back was Wesley Matthews lol

What if we did a Powell, Matthews + 9 for Drummond, Johnson, and 12?


Yikes, I hate it. Johnson hasn't shown enough for this to be an attractive offer, Drummond had a landslide in production this season, and we also move back 3 spots. If we didn't have Noel then maybe this would be ok, but Drummond on a max deal as a backup means we would need way more coming back (another 1st rounder or KCP)


Highly unlikely deal. Also KCP is a RFA and will most likely get a max deal from someone, not by us...
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#783 » by Mr B » Wed May 31, 2017 8:07 pm

dirkforpres wrote:
Mr B wrote:If the team is looking to dump Wes this could be a trading partner. Obviously it would take more than Wes but it would be a great deal for the Mavs if they could end up with both the 9th and 12th picks.

Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine)
5/30/17, 12:57 PM
NBA Draft scuttle: Hearing Detroit is open to discussing trades for its No. 12 overall pick in hopes of acquiring more of a win-now veteran.


Van Gundy would get fired if he traded a lotto pick and the best piece coming back was Wesley Matthews lol

What if we did a Powell, Matthews + 9 for Drummond, Johnson, and 12?


You must have missed the part where I said it would obviously take more than just Wes.

As for the trade you proposed, no thanks. Got no interest in Drummond and no way I give up #9. I'm trying to find a way to keep 9 and obtain 12.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#784 » by dirkforpres » Wed May 31, 2017 8:51 pm

Mr B wrote:
dirkforpres wrote:
Mr B wrote:If the team is looking to dump Wes this could be a trading partner. Obviously it would take more than Wes but it would be a great deal for the Mavs if they could end up with both the 9th and 12th picks.

Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine)
5/30/17, 12:57 PM
NBA Draft scuttle: Hearing Detroit is open to discussing trades for its No. 12 overall pick in hopes of acquiring more of a win-now veteran.


Van Gundy would get fired if he traded a lotto pick and the best piece coming back was Wesley Matthews lol

What if we did a Powell, Matthews + 9 for Drummond, Johnson, and 12?


You must have missed the part where I said it would obviously take more than just Wes.


No I got that part, I'm just curious as to what you would want to include that is better than Wes? We all know we aren't going to trade Dirk or Barnes... All I said was that the best piece going back to DET was Wes, and I doubt he is even close to enough, so it doesn't make sense
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#785 » by Darren » Thu Jun 1, 2017 12:05 pm

Devassa wrote:
dirkforpres wrote:
Mr B wrote:If the team is looking to dump Wes this could be a trading partner. Obviously it would take more than Wes but it would be a great deal for the Mavs if they could end up with both the 9th and 12th picks.

Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine)
5/30/17, 12:57 PM
NBA Draft scuttle: Hearing Detroit is open to discussing trades for its No. 12 overall pick in hopes of acquiring more of a win-now veteran.


Van Gundy would get fired if he traded a lotto pick and the best piece coming back was Wesley Matthews lol

What if we did a Powell, Matthews + 9 for Drummond, Johnson, and 12?


Yikes, I hate it. Johnson hasn't shown enough for this to be an attractive offer, Drummond had a landslide in production this season, and we also move back 3 spots. If we didn't have Noel then maybe this would be ok, but Drummond on a max deal as a backup means we would need way more coming back (another 1st rounder or KCP)


If you mean Andre Drummond and 12th pick for Wes Matthews and a future first, great do it now. If we have to package with the 9th pick, then no. I am fine with Powell and Barea/Harris for Drummond and 12th pick, though.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#786 » by Yennefer » Fri Jun 2, 2017 11:15 am

We do not want to trade for older Players. We should not sign or trade for anyone older than 23. We need to be as bad as possible in the next few Years.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#787 » by Darren » Fri Jun 2, 2017 2:02 pm

Actually, I may pick OG Anunoby over Monk or Markkanen if we're left with the duo. Anunoby has a NBA-ready frame and athleticism. He can guard all 5 positions on court and is energetic all over the place. I consider him a rich man Justin Anderson as he's better lateral quickness and stronger vertical quickness. He only takes shot when he's opened. He's surely a contributor to me. Monk may or may not succeed at next level. He'd give us flexibility in rotation. He can be a modern PF with 7-6 wingspan at only 6-8 tall. He averages 2 blocks and 2 steals per 40 minutes. That's hard to be neglected. If we trade down for cap relief, he's my pick.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#788 » by Pinkyring » Fri Jun 2, 2017 5:39 pm

So people want to max noel but decline deal for drummond who is a much better player just as young and doesnt have an injury history, hmmmmmm ok
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#789 » by Mr B » Fri Jun 2, 2017 11:49 pm

Pinkyring wrote:So people want to max noel but decline deal for drummond who is a much better player just as young and doesnt have an injury history, hmmmmmm ok


He's nowhere near as good as Noel on defense.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#790 » by Mr B » Fri Jun 2, 2017 11:51 pm

Darren wrote:Actually, I may pick OG Anunoby over Monk or Markkanen if we're left with the duo. Anunoby has a NBA-ready frame and athleticism. He can guard all 5 positions on court and is energetic all over the place. I consider him a rich man Justin Anderson as he's better lateral quickness and stronger vertical quickness. He only takes shot when he's opened. He's surely a contributor to me. Monk may or may not succeed at next level. He'd give us flexibility in rotation. He can be a modern PF with 7-6 wingspan at only 6-8 tall. He averages 2 blocks and 2 steals per 40 minutes. That's hard to be neglected. If we trade down for cap relief, he's my pick.


I'd have no interest in a 6'8" PF. Based on the latest article I read it seems that if the Mavs cannot land the PG they want they will likely pick Markkanen. They view obtaining a stretch 4 right behind PG on their list of needs this off season.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#791 » by Mr B » Sat Jun 3, 2017 1:27 am

If the Mavs are able to get another 1st round pick this could be their target.

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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#792 » by Darren » Sat Jun 3, 2017 8:38 am

Mr B wrote:
Darren wrote:Actually, I may pick OG Anunoby over Monk or Markkanen if we're left with the duo. Anunoby has a NBA-ready frame and athleticism. He can guard all 5 positions on court and is energetic all over the place. I consider him a rich man Justin Anderson as he's better lateral quickness and stronger vertical quickness. He only takes shot when he's opened. He's surely a contributor to me. Monk may or may not succeed at next level. He'd give us flexibility in rotation. He can be a modern PF with 7-6 wingspan at only 6-8 tall. He averages 2 blocks and 2 steals per 40 minutes. That's hard to be neglected. If we trade down for cap relief, he's my pick.


I'd have no interest in a 6'8" PF. Based on the latest article I read it seems that if the Mavs cannot land the PG they want they will likely pick Markkanen. They view obtaining a stretch 4 right behind PG on their list of needs this off season.


He's a 7-6 wingspan to make it up. It's not bad to have another Draymond on roster. He's not just a PF, but he can also guard C, SF, SG and PG. That's what make him special. His slow release is a concern. He can only be a fourth or fifth option. But he's the elite defender potential and nba-ready body and lateral quickness to start with. His defense is even better than Wes. If we trade Wes, we need a replacement at 2. Barnes can't guard opponent best player the way we wanted to. We have to address it. I have Andre Roberson or OG Anunoby high on this role. I wonder why we'd pick Markkanen after we see how Ryan Anderson, Kevin Love and Lamarcus Aldright failed all playoff long. From the highlights, Markkanen does not have the foot step of Dirk or Porzingis. That makes him more likely be one of the big failure on boated contract like those 3 guys mentioned. All 3 guys can shoot. But all of them disappeared on the playoff floor for one reason. To win a championship, you'd better have a 4 that can contribute on both end from 3-5 position. I see Markkanen's lack of explosiveness and lateral quickness a serious problem to that regard.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#793 » by JamesConway » Tue Jun 6, 2017 9:53 pm

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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#794 » by Teffer10 » Tue Jun 6, 2017 11:05 pm

JamesConway wrote:
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Man that is music to my ears!!!!! :clap:
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#795 » by Mr B » Tue Jun 6, 2017 11:42 pm

For you guys that want to actually listen to that Dirk interview you can listen to it on the Ben and Skin podcast. Dirk was in the radio with them yesterday. The interview is in two parts.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#796 » by dirkforpres » Thu Jun 8, 2017 4:46 pm

That 7'1 wingspan really has me wanting Ntilikina here. That's unreal
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#797 » by JamesConway » Thu Jun 8, 2017 5:39 pm

Teffer10 wrote:
JamesConway wrote:
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Man that is music to my ears!!!!! :clap:

You know a report like this had to come out:
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Lol. Guess we'll just have to wait and see two more weeks. It's next to impossible to read too much into reports like this or Dirk (of all people) being the one to tell us their draft night plans two weeks ahead of it.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#798 » by Yennefer » Thu Jun 8, 2017 7:19 pm

Please not Collins, that would be the worst pick in history.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#799 » by dirkforpres » Thu Jun 8, 2017 7:21 pm

Yennefer wrote:Please not Collins, that would be the worst pick in history.


I don't think he'd be the worst.. I just don't want him paired with Noel. Seems redundant and doesn't fix anything for us short term or long term.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#800 » by Darren » Thu Jun 8, 2017 10:05 pm

So the Mavs won't pick Monk at 9th.
1. Frank Ntilikina
2. Laurei Markkanen (who Dirk doesn't think highly of) / Zach Collins

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