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Re: New Closer 

Post#81 » by youngLion » Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:50 am

Modern_epic wrote:
[BJ was bailed out] by Jason Fraser of all people


Alright, I've got a bone to pick here, and it is by no means just with you.


Look, folks, Jason Fraser isn't bad.

Now, prior to this season he has rarely been really good, either. But Jason Fraser was far from awful last season. When you compare him to the best pen in the majors, yes, he was certainly one of the bottom guys in it. But even still, last year he was an average reliever; (iirc) even above average when you consider stats beyond W/L, ERA, and WHIP.

This season if he proves to be a great closer or set up man, it would be a surprise (though relievers are pretty well known to surprise). But that Jason Fraser will likely be a decent 7th inning guy and righty specialist this year should surprise no one.


Good post. I've always been a fan of Frasor myself, and I was kind of surprised that he didn't get more of a chance at the closer's role after his rookie year when he saved 17. Gibbons didn't trust him at all and that crushed his confidence for a while but he seems to have it back. He's not a world beater, but when he's right he seems to do well in pressure situation. He's just another reason that the Jays' bullpen is so great.
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Re: New Closer 

Post#82 » by zilby » Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:06 pm

chocolateSensi wrote:
zilby wrote:
youngLion wrote:You guys are cute. You'd make a great couple.

they're like an old couple.


Yo zilby! I thought you were on my side! :x :D

i am dude, its just realy funny how u guys r going back and forth. ur still my guy for jays mod.
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Re: New Closer 

Post#83 » by victor page » Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:07 pm

Frasor has very good velocity and control but his pitches are somewhat flat (no tailing movement on fastball) so hitters with plus bat speed can tee off on them.

But that pitch he was throwing in Cleveland - whether it was a changeup or a split finger - that was absolutely sick. If he can command that son of a gun with consistency then he will eat hitters alive. It's nice to see a pitcher actually work on something in the off-season rather than just hang out at Hooters in their hometown.

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