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Jays @ Rays - Aug 5 - 7 - Bad Meets Good 

Post#1 » by BigLeagueChew » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:14 pm

Clevinger vs Borucki
Bauer vs Sanchez
Bieber vs Stroman

Game 2 is apparently on youtube.
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Re: Indians vs Jays - July 22-24 

Post#2 » by phillipmike » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:59 pm

Nice to see Borucki back
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Post#3 » by polo007 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:30 pm

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Re: Indians vs Jays - July 22-24 

Post#4 » by BigLeagueChew » Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:30 pm

Clevinger is throwing some gas, reaching 97-98.

career averages so far by season on his fastball:

2017 ; 92.8
2018 ; 94.2
2019 ; 96.3
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Re: Indians vs Jays - July 22-24 

Post#5 » by vaff87 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:44 pm

BigLeagueChew wrote:Clevinger is throwing some gas, reaching 97-98.

career averages so far by season on his fastball:

2017 ; 92.8
2018 ; 94.2
2019 ; 96.3


WTF?
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Re: Indians vs Jays - July 22-24 

Post#6 » by Schad » Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:47 pm

BigLeagueChew wrote:Clevinger is throwing some gas, reaching 97-98.

career averages so far by season on his fastball:

2017 ; 92.8
2018 ; 94.2
2019 ; 96.3


He rather quietly became an upper-echelon starter. Not bad for a guy acquired for...Vinnie Pestano.

Clevinger's another Driveline guy, for what it's worth.
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Re: Indians vs Jays - July 22-24 

Post#7 » by BigLeagueChew » Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:49 pm

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WTF?


The JA Happ effect? I dunno if this velocity surge is meant to last.
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Re: Indians vs Jays - July 22-24 

Post#8 » by BigLeagueChew » Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:08 am

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He rather quietly became an upper-echelon starter. Not bad for a guy acquired for...Vinnie Pestano.

Clevinger's another Driveline guy, for what it's worth.


Do the Jays still have that? Recall Delabar using it, I think. Weighted ball program where you don't actually throw it.
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Re: Indians vs Jays - July 22-24 

Post#9 » by Schad » Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:16 am

They're generally doing it on their own time in the offseason. They offer a whole range of stuff...workout programs, really sophisticated on-site diagnostics and biomechanical work to tailor pitcher mechanics to increase velocity, spin, correct possible flaws that would lead to injury, etc. It's still an open question as to how well they'll do at the latter (given that they are helping guys tack on a few ticks in many cases), but it's fascinating stuff.

I guess it shouldn't be at this point, but it still surprises me that a private company started introducing this stuff when teams would have had the resources to do so years ago, but that's baseball. We did hire a couple of the Driveline guys to work in our minor league system, however.
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Re: Indians vs Jays - July 22-24 

Post#10 » by Schad » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:15 am

Want to know how much baseball's demographics have changed in the past 20 years? Eric Sogard has the fifth-best fWAR total this season among hitters 31 or older. In 1999, 11 hitters aged 31+ managed 5 fWAR, 22 managed 4+. Sogard will need a strong finishing kick to reach 3.5.

5th-best among in his age bracket is good for 58th in the league as a whole.
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Re: Indians vs Jays - July 22-24 

Post#11 » by phillipmike » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:37 pm

Tonight's Jays Game is ONLY on YouTube - free of charge;

https://www.mlb.com/news/watch-indians-blue-jays-tuesday-on-youtube
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Re: Indians vs Jays - July 22-24 

Post#12 » by vaff87 » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:07 pm

Ugh, I turn the game on, first person I see is Jackie Redmond.
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Re: Indians vs Jays - July 22-24 

Post#13 » by BigLeagueChew » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:13 pm

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Re: Indians vs Jays - July 22-24 

Post#14 » by So_Fresh » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:22 pm

vaff87 wrote:Ugh, I turn that on, first person I see is Jackie Redmond.


what's wrong with Jackie Redmond?
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Re: Indians vs Jays - July 22-24 

Post#15 » by vaff87 » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:31 pm

Why is the game only on YouTube, anyway? Old people are furious!
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Re: Indians vs Jays - July 22-24 

Post#16 » by So_Fresh » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:11 am

vaff87 wrote:Why is the game only on YouTube, anyway? Old people are furious!


Does it really matter? Even old people know this team sucks anyways.
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Re: Indians vs Jays - July 22-24 

Post#17 » by BigLeagueChew » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:29 am

Can we replace the 3rd base coach?
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Re: Indians vs Jays - July 22-24 

Post#18 » by Adrian_05 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:58 am

Cant wait until Vlad can start getting the ball in the air.
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Re: Indians vs Jays - July 22-24 

Post#19 » by So_Fresh » Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:02 am

And of course Teoscar strikes out to end the inning. Smfh... This guy is so awful. Don't want him near this team next season.
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Re: Indians vs Jays - July 22-24 

Post#20 » by Schad » Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:02 am

Yeah, that's why I'm pretty relaxed. His K rate continues to come down, and his walk rate is solid (he actually has a 1:1 ratio dating back to late June, at 13.6% apiece...that's very good in both columns). So basically, we're waiting on his power. I am not worried about his power.
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