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Game 58: Denver Nuggets @ Milwaukee Bucks 8:00 PM ET

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Re: Game 58: Denver Nuggets @ Milwaukee Bucks 8:00 PM ET 

Post#21 » by SoCalNuggsFan » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:51 am

skywalker33 wrote:A road win against a playoff team going into the ASB....seemed impossible. Back to the 6th seed with 24 games left and Millsap (and I guess Plumlee) back on the horizon...interesting horizon looming !

Brings up an interesting point. How is plumlee gonna get minutes? Jokic, millsap & lyles are all better by a wide margin, and chandler at the 4 has been a major part of this offensive explosion. I think the best possible incarnation of this team has plumlee with the DNP-CD
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Re: Game 58: Denver Nuggets @ Milwaukee Bucks 8:00 PM ET 

Post#22 » by skywalker33 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:08 am

Six games over .500 is not too shabby
Texas Chuck wrote:I'd like to see Utah, and Denver lose


Exactly as I've been saying all along !!
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Re: Game 58: Denver Nuggets @ Milwaukee Bucks 8:00 PM ET 

Post#23 » by Popovich » Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:15 am

I understand that Nuggets are offensive minded team and Malone established great spacing and movement in offence where it is really hard for opponents to stop Nuggets finding open shots. I also noticed a large number of committed fouls in this important road victory , something like 7 or 8 more personal fouls than team average.

Anyhow Nuggets are not making a lot of Team Personal Fouls per Game 17.8 which is same as Minnesota and Charlotte and only behind San Antonio who makes the least number personal of fouls in NBA , just 17 per game.

Sure you guys got to love how Nuggets run their offensive machinery, however does this means that more pressure can be putted on defensive end of the floor and please check listed stats and than after taking into account the last game, tell me does Denver in your opinion should shoot more or less frequently?


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field goals made per game
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3 pointers attempted per game
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3 pointers made per game
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3 points percentage
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3 pointers rate per game
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And finally just to tell you without showing chart that in True Shooting % Denver is on 12th place while they are on 8th place in Extra Scoring Chances per Game and their maybe best position is place number 7 in team Effective Possession Ratio.
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Re: Game 58: Denver Nuggets @ Milwaukee Bucks 8:00 PM ET 

Post#24 » by NuggetsWY » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:29 am

Popovich wrote:I understand that Nuggets are offensive minded team and Malone established great spacing and movement in offence where it is really hard for opponents to stop Nuggets finding open shots. I also noticed a large number of committed fouls in this important road victory , something like 7 or 8 more personal fouls than team average.

Anyhow Nuggets are not making a lot of Team Personal Fouls per Game 17.8 which is same as Minnesota and Charlotte and only behind San Antonio who makes the least number personal of fouls in NBA , just 17 per game.

Sure you guys got to love how Nuggets run their offensive machinery, however does this means that more pressure can be putted on defensive end of the floor and please check listed stats and than after taking into account the last game, tell me does Denver in your opinion should shoot more or less frequently?

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field goals attempted per game
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field goals made per game
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3 pointers attempted per game
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3 pointers made per game
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3 points percentage
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3 pointers rate per game
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And finally just to tell you without showing chart that in True Shooting % Denver is on 12th place while they are on 8th place in Extra Scoring Chances per Game and their maybe best position is place number 7 in team Effective Possession Ratio.


Yup, we knew about the small number of fouls. Some coaches like that, some don't, some aren't concerned; most of the fans here seem unconcerned. I'd prefer to see more fouls but it's not important really. Intense defense usually results in more fouls, but Denver's not big on defense and based on our offense, that seems fine.

We pretty much know about our 3 point shooting and that also seems to be less of an issue than many might think. Why? Because when Denver plays their open offense, they score and at the rate they score, we mostly don't care.

Frankly, Malone did not establish great spacing and movement. It is a result of players playing off from Jokic when he has the ball.

But all of that is just my opinion and I've been wrong before.
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Re: Game 58: Denver Nuggets @ Milwaukee Bucks 8:00 PM ET 

Post#25 » by MidMountain » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:00 pm

SoCalNuggsFan wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:A road win against a playoff team going into the ASB....seemed impossible. Back to the 6th seed with 24 games left and Millsap (and I guess Plumlee) back on the horizon...interesting horizon looming !

Brings up an interesting point. How is plumlee gonna get minutes? Jokic, millsap & lyles are all better by a wide margin, and chandler at the 4 has been a major part of this offensive explosion. I think the best possible incarnation of this team has plumlee with the DNP-CD

I disagree that Lyles is better than Plumlee, especially at Center. I do think once Milsap returns we should see zero minutes of Plumlee and Jokic on the floor together. Plumlee and Lyles should both get 15-20 per game off the bench at the 5 and 4 respectively. Splitting the minutes between Barton and Chandler will be tricky. Who starts and who becomes the 6th man? Our second unit could really use Barton's scoring punch off the bench and he's done well in that role before. If the second unit can continue to run up the score, there may even be some minutes for Juancho & Beasley.

Jokic (33) - Plumlee (15)
Milsap (28) - Lyles (20)
Chandler (28) - Barton (20)
G Harris (34) - Barton (14)
Murray (32) - D Harris (16)
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Re: Game 58: Denver Nuggets @ Milwaukee Bucks 8:00 PM ET 

Post#26 » by U hova » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:21 pm

If you noticed a lot of fouls in this game... so did our announcing crew.

The game was pretty terrible in the second half.
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Re: Game 58: Denver Nuggets @ Milwaukee Bucks 8:00 PM ET 

Post#27 » by NuggetsWY » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:25 pm

MidMountain wrote:
SoCalNuggsFan wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:A road win against a playoff team going into the ASB....seemed impossible. Back to the 6th seed with 24 games left and Millsap (and I guess Plumlee) back on the horizon...interesting horizon looming !

Brings up an interesting point. How is plumlee gonna get minutes? Jokic, millsap & lyles are all better by a wide margin, and chandler at the 4 has been a major part of this offensive explosion. I think the best possible incarnation of this team has plumlee with the DNP-CD

I disagree that Lyles is better than Plumlee, especially at Center. I do think once Milsap returns we should see zero minutes of Plumlee and Jokic on the floor together. Plumlee and Lyles should both get 15-20 per game off the bench at the 5 and 4 respectively. Splitting the minutes between Barton and Chandler will be tricky. Who starts and who becomes the 6th man? Our second unit could really use Barton's scoring punch off the bench and he's done well in that role before. If the second unit can continue to run up the score, there may even be some minutes for Juancho & Beasley.

Jokic (33) - Plumlee (15)
Milsap (28) - Lyles (20)
Chandler (28) - Barton (20)
G Harris (34) - Barton (14)
Murray (32) - D Harris (16)

It seems as though Chandler is playing better since he was moved to PF. When Millsap comes back, he won't be happy as a backup. If Malone isn't going to play Faried, who always gives a good effort, why not give Chandler some DNP-CDs?

Jokic - Plumlee
Millsap - Faried - Hernangomez
Lyles - Craig - Jefferson
G.Harris - Murray - Beasley
Murray - D. Harris

No doubt Hernangomez & Beasley won't get much time and I'd like to see them play, but I'm trying to be realistic.

Can Lyles play SF? Think about K.Leonard, K.Durrant, L.James and there are some big SFs in this league. It might work.
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Re: Game 58: Denver Nuggets @ Milwaukee Bucks 8:00 PM ET 

Post#28 » by SoCalNuggsFan » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:48 pm

NuggetsWY wrote:
MidMountain wrote:
SoCalNuggsFan wrote:Brings up an interesting point. How is plumlee gonna get minutes? Jokic, millsap & lyles are all better by a wide margin, and chandler at the 4 has been a major part of this offensive explosion. I think the best possible incarnation of this team has plumlee with the DNP-CD

I disagree that Lyles is better than Plumlee, especially at Center. I do think once Milsap returns we should see zero minutes of Plumlee and Jokic on the floor together. Plumlee and Lyles should both get 15-20 per game off the bench at the 5 and 4 respectively. Splitting the minutes between Barton and Chandler will be tricky. Who starts and who becomes the 6th man? Our second unit could really use Barton's scoring punch off the bench and he's done well in that role before. If the second unit can continue to run up the score, there may even be some minutes for Juancho & Beasley.

Jokic (33) - Plumlee (15)
Milsap (28) - Lyles (20)
Chandler (28) - Barton (20)
G Harris (34) - Barton (14)
Murray (32) - D Harris (16)

It seems as though Chandler is playing better since he was moved to PF. When Millsap comes back, he won't be happy as a backup. If Malone isn't going to play Faried, who always gives a good effort, why not give Chandler some DNP-CDs?

Jokic - Plumlee
Millsap - Faried - Hernangomez
Lyles - Craig - Jefferson
G.Harris - Murray - Beasley
Murray - D. Harris

No doubt Hernangomez & Beasley won't get much time and I'd like to see them play, but I'm trying to be realistic.

Can Lyles play SF? Think about K.Leonard, K.Durrant, L.James and there are some big SFs in this league. It might work.

I think playing lyles at SF loses all of the advantages the nuggets get by having him on the floor. Won’t get as many open 3s or blow bys with a wing guarding him. He could post them up but that slows everything down and takes the ball out of Jokic/Harris/Murray’s hands.

Jokic/Lyles
Millsap/Chandler/Lyles
Barton/Chandler
Harris/Barton
Murray/D Harris

Is what I’d go with when the rotations tighten. With plumlee, Beasley and Craig getting spot mins because of foul trouble.
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Re: Game 58: Denver Nuggets @ Milwaukee Bucks 8:00 PM ET 

Post#29 » by The Rebel » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:16 pm

NuggetsWY wrote:
MidMountain wrote:
SoCalNuggsFan wrote:Brings up an interesting point. How is plumlee gonna get minutes? Jokic, millsap & lyles are all better by a wide margin, and chandler at the 4 has been a major part of this offensive explosion. I think the best possible incarnation of this team has plumlee with the DNP-CD

I disagree that Lyles is better than Plumlee, especially at Center. I do think once Milsap returns we should see zero minutes of Plumlee and Jokic on the floor together. Plumlee and Lyles should both get 15-20 per game off the bench at the 5 and 4 respectively. Splitting the minutes between Barton and Chandler will be tricky. Who starts and who becomes the 6th man? Our second unit could really use Barton's scoring punch off the bench and he's done well in that role before. If the second unit can continue to run up the score, there may even be some minutes for Juancho & Beasley.

Jokic (33) - Plumlee (15)
Milsap (28) - Lyles (20)
Chandler (28) - Barton (20)
G Harris (34) - Barton (14)
Murray (32) - D Harris (16)

It seems as though Chandler is playing better since he was moved to PF. When Millsap comes back, he won't be happy as a backup. If Malone isn't going to play Faried, who always gives a good effort, why not give Chandler some DNP-CDs?

Jokic - Plumlee
Millsap - Faried - Hernangomez
Lyles - Craig - Jefferson
G.Harris - Murray - Beasley
Murray - D. Harris

No doubt Hernangomez & Beasley won't get much time and I'd like to see them play, but I'm trying to be realistic.

Can Lyles play SF? Think about K.Leonard, K.Durrant, L.James and there are some big SFs in this league. It might work.

Chandler isn't playing better because he is playing at PF, he is playing better because he decided to actually put in effort.

Lyles would get destroyed at SF.

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