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Re: Would you sign off on this trade? 

Post#21 » by Minas » Wed Sep 4, 2013 6:32 am

I like Parsons a lot but his value is not equal to Moose's.
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Re: Would you sign off on this trade? 

Post#22 » by HotelVitale » Wed Sep 4, 2013 6:33 am

Q00 wrote:This sounds worse than Orlando trading Howard for Afflalo... That would a heist by Houston.


Orlando traded one year of Howard for three or four first-round picks, Mo Harkless, and Nik Vucevic (second in the league in total rebounds and RPG last year). Afflalo's and Harrington's contracts were mostly there to make the deal work.

But yeah, this would be an easy win for Houston. They weren't really that good last year, and they get to trade their fourth and sixth best players for another team's best and another team's second or third best.
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Re: Would you sign off on this trade? 

Post#23 » by sc8581 » Wed Sep 4, 2013 8:59 am

Parsons was clearly the 2nd option on one of the best offenses in the league last year, his defense is pretty good with the potential to be very good if he stops playing the lanes(coaching). I'm not going to sit here and try to argue with you guys that he's better than Monroe but he does fit what this team needs more than Moose does. He's locked up for the next 2 years at less than $2 million, possibly giving us an extra $13 million in cap space next summer, close to $16 million total.

Drummond
Smith
Parsons
KCP
Jennings

That squad makes a lot more sense than the current one and we would have a lot of money to make it better after this deal.
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Re: Would you sign off on this trade? 

Post#24 » by Warspite » Wed Sep 4, 2013 9:49 am

Harden for Monroe is something that you have to consider...


This you dont.
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Re: Would you sign off on this trade? 

Post#25 » by princeofpalace » Wed Sep 4, 2013 10:51 am

You don't trade Monroe for a lesser player just because he's a better fit on paper. Parsons is a fine young role player that Id love to have, but certainly not at the expense of Monroe. Smith/Monroe/Drummond is our frontcourt going forward. What we need is a backup 2/3 that can hit the jumper and play D because Smith will likely only play 16 minutes at SF, which leaves 32 for a backup.
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Re: Would you sign off on this trade? 

Post#26 » by vic » Wed Sep 4, 2013 11:01 am

Nope.

The only way you lose GMoney is for an all-star potential SF under 25.
That's a short list, and I don't think Parsons is on it when you have Paul George, Kawhi Leonard, Batum, mkg, Barnes out there.

If they were 2 UNPROTECTED 1st rounders, 1 from Philly, 1 from Houston... Maybe that would be something .

But I still wouldn't do it unless forced to. Bad transaction for the Pistons. Never exchange production for hope.
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Re: Would you sign off on this trade? 

Post#27 » by ElectricMayhem » Wed Sep 4, 2013 11:56 am

Warspite wrote:Harden for Monroe is something that you have to consider...


This you dont.


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We already have the rich man's Harden. Why would we give up Monroe for a guy that would occasionally spell Rodney Stuckey?
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Re: Would you sign off on this trade? 

Post#28 » by Pharaoh » Wed Sep 4, 2013 2:05 pm

Here we go again, another Monroe trade

I do believe Joe Dumars knew that signing Josh Smith would present all kinds of "spacing" problems

I do believe Joe Dumars knew that signing Josh Smith would mean our roster would lack "balance"

I don't believe Joe Dumars signed Josh Smith so he could trade Greg Monroe.

I say no to this trade idea and every other Monroe trade idea until I can see how the Drummond, Monroe, Smith rotation plays out
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Re: Would you sign off on this trade? 

Post#29 » by Clarity » Wed Sep 4, 2013 4:34 pm

DetroitDon15 wrote:
Pistons fans thoughts on this trade:

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JD43320 wrote:
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fantastic

ImHeisenberg wrote:Read the whole post. I'm an advocate of keeping Greg Monroe. I was just tossing this out there for fun.

It's more of a "if it had to happen" type question. :wink:


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Re: Would you sign off on this trade? 

Post#30 » by HotelVitale » Wed Sep 4, 2013 4:44 pm

sc8581 wrote:Parsons was clearly the 2nd option on one of the best offenses in the league last year, his defense is pretty good with the potential to be very good if he stops playing the lanes(coaching). I'm not going to sit here and try to argue with you guys that he's better than Monroe but he does fit what this team needs more than Moose does. He's locked up for the next 2 years at less than $2 million, possibly giving us an extra $13 million in cap space next summer, close to $16 million total..


I see what your point, but it's really misleading to call Parsons 'the clear second option' on the Rockets. He was hardly an 'option' at all--he didn't initiate almost any plays, and he was actually 12th on the team in usage %. Harden used almost twice as many possessions as him, while the other useful offensive players on the Rockets--Lin, Motiejunas, Patrick Patterson, Delfino, Toney Douglas, etc--all used more plays per minutes. He barely used more possessions per minute than Asik, whose offensive skillset is limited to dunking and bricking free throws.

That's a good point about next year's cap space though. Parsons would likely get paid big season after next, but getting out from under Monroe's $10m cap hold could be big. Still not enough to sweeten the deal though. (Finally I can't tell if you're just playing devil's advocate, sc8581, but you know Chandler Parsons isn't a great player, right? It's nice that someone on the board is playing reverse-homer, but I feel like you need a reality check if you really think that Chandler Parsons is a comparable prospect to Monroe. Check out this take on Parsons by a well-known Rockets fanatic: http://www.red94.net/what-is-chandler-p ... lue/13057/)
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Re: Would you sign off on this trade? 

Post#31 » by Redeemed » Wed Sep 4, 2013 5:49 pm

ImHeisenberg wrote:Preface: Not so much a legit RGM proposal, just a trade idea from the perspective of roster balance.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lqlmfon
-note- Houston would send Detroit two future first round picks (preferably FAR into the future)

Detroit sends out: Greg Monroe
Detroit receives: Chandler Parsons (24 yrs old, 15.5 PPG, 5.3 rebs, FG% .486/.385/.739 (FG, 3, FT))

Houston sends out: Parsons (Det) and Asik (76ers)
Houston receives: Greg Monroe and Evan Turner

76ers send out: Evan Turner (Hou) and a future second rd pick to Hou
76ers receive: Omer Asik


I was just toying around with line-ups really. the Hou-Philly connection is obvious, Det would only do this if talks with Monroe somehow soured, and Parsons would be a solid fit at the SF spot.

I'm not an advocate of trading Monroe. I just wanted to take the pulse on the community.


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Re: Would you sign off on this trade? 

Post#32 » by MrBigShot » Wed Sep 4, 2013 8:08 pm

HotelVitale wrote:Check out this take on Parsons by a well-known Rockets fanatic: http://www.red94.net/what-is-chandler-p ... lue/13057/)


Everyone should read this article posted by HV. As far as I'm concerned it summed up this discussion perfectly. Parsons is a solid glue guy who's stats look a bit better than his on-court impact, partially due to Houston's uptempo style. He provides versatility, perimeter shooting and defense but sorry, he's not worth Monroe. Not by a longshot. Guys with Parson's skill set aren't exactly rare...at the end of the day, he's a role player. A very good one at that, but a role player.
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Re: Would you sign off on this trade? 

Post#33 » by RTM » Wed Sep 4, 2013 8:44 pm

Would I trade Monroe for Parsons?

I'll give you the quick answer: No.
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Re: Would you sign off on this trade? 

Post#34 » by tmorgan » Wed Sep 4, 2013 9:20 pm

Great find on that article, HotelVitale. and great writing by the author.

I love Parsons' game, and he'd be a great fit for our team -- but you still don't trade your quarter for two dimes just because only dimes fit in the gumball machine. You either get exact change by going to a bank, or, even better, you wait for someone that really needs a quarter and try to get three dimes out of them.

There are still finances involved, of course, but if Monroe's new deal doesn't hamstring us, I'm all for keeping him unless an outstanding offer comes along. I do think he's going to evolve into something closer to what this team needs, because he's an intelligent player and winning (at least initially) is conducive to change and sacrifice.

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