Drafting without a GM/Coach

[mercury]

Let's be honest:

Everyone would prefer to have a GM in place right now AND have that GM conducting the coaching search & oversee the draft.

But reality is we don't have a GM.

People whine about Gores not being a "basketball" guy...then whine about him hiring a head hunting firm to look for candidates! You can't have it both ways!

Who Gores hires as GM is the single most important decision he'll make this off-season and the single most important decision he'll make in the next 5 years (at least as far as the Pistons are concerned)!

I'd rather they take their time and get it right than hire someone just so fan boys have a figurehead to look to 5-6 weeks before the Draft...a Draft in which we might not even have a first round pick

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I can agree with most of what you're saying (especially the committee selection)... OTOH, where do you draw the line of due diligence vs. losing opportunities?... the Pistons got a jump on most teams... they were likely looking at candidates well b4 the JD firing.... a rough analogy would be shopping for the perfect price on ebay and eventually losing the best deal...
Qualified candidates will be scooped up quickly... then our new committee will have to fight the "best market" and playoff contender teams... it's like saying all volunteers please take one step forward... then the candidates all take one step back.... let's hope there is not going to be paralysis by analysis and they understand there are new players in the game that won't wait 2 months.

[Sheeeeed]

You're delusional if you continue to think I'm some poster named Flip, and signing the wrong FAs doesn't mean he didn't rebuild the right way. It means he chose the wrong FAs.

You're delusional for thinking anyone believes that bull you're not Flip.

I'm still waiting for your list of recent championship teams who were built the way you are suggesting. It seems you are the one spinning this into something its not, because no such list exists. You made it up.

You're shooting too high by wanting a list of championship teams because of the huge disparity in the league. The Pistons aren't going to build themselves into a championship team by signing mediocre free agents, and that's all they will have the opportunity to sign in FA is the mediocre free agents. I made it up, because I said there was a list of championship that build their team that way? What a **** reach by putting words in my mouth.

Believe whatever you want man. You can call me Flip, Frank, Carlisle, or Darko for all I care, but you can't say Dumars was wrong for not following a model of rebuilding that's never produced any championships, because there is nothing to back up your claim that that model is the right way to rebuild, if its not actually winning anything.

That's not putting words in your mouth. That's debunking your claim that that model is the right way to rebuild a team.

Yet you think the model Dumars chose was the right way to build a team, signing mediocre free agents with hope for at least a first round appearance. You didn't debunk anything, the only chance the Pistons have at winning a championship is to be bad enough to get a superstar as a top 5 pick. Guess what? Theres never been a championship winning team without a former top 5 pick in the starting line up in at least the last 30 or 40 years. LeBron or Durant isn't walking through that door and coming to Detroit through free agency.

[Pharaoh]

As far as I know we have the only GM opening in the league so it's not likely we'll miss out on candidates while going through this head hunting process.

What could happen is that the firm uncovers an unknown option.

We like to think we know everything but when it comes to potential GMs we're (almost) clueless.

Look at the reaction Kilo's suggestion of McDonough got last off-season! I believe I was the only one who backed his choice...

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[mercury]

This most likely also effects hiring the coach

[Pharaoh]

Yes, the longer we take to hire a GM the more likely we are to miss out on the better coaches...

But what else is new? We're rebuilding and guys like Thibs, Hollins, The VGs and possibly MJ would require some say over personnel in order to come here anyway.

Assuming we hire a virgin GM (& most of the decent candidates are virgins) its highly likely we get some assistant coach here.

Look at McDonough, Ferry and Hinkie.

Hired Horny, Bud and Brown...all perfect for what they wanted to do...and only Bud was respected/expected due to the Spurs.

Did anyone expect Hornacek to be a good coach?

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[Kilo]

Not only the top coaches, but also top assistant coaches as the top coaches hired elsewhere begin to fill out their staffs.

[Pharaoh]

To some extent Kilo that's true but we're all operating on our own time lines right now.

If it was up to me I'd already have JVG & SVG hired!

The Draft is still 6 weeks away.



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[mercury]

On a different note, we're seeing signs of teams bringing in kids for workouts... has Gores given David the green light to start the process?... it would be a shame if the new GM is missing first hand looks... hopefully the future GM has some intel from his current team (vs a broadcaster or former player without a current assistant job).
This is why I hate our beat writers... they have no inside league sources.... we're most likely going to find out the successor via Boston or N.Y.

[Kilo]

Our beat writers are stenographers for the Pistons Org. It's quite embarrassing really - total hacks.

[Kilo]

I just gotta hope Zarren is operating under a non-disclosure agreement agreed to as part of the process - with Ainge respecting that agreement. Zarren should be a top candidate and in the VERY least have been contacted to gauge interest in the opening and have an initial interview.