Trade Up, Trade Down or Stay at 8 in the Draft?

[coordinator0]

Rumors out there that SVG is open to trading the #8 for veteran players....presumption is for SF. You guys here anything about that ?

For a long time now. But it won't be for Wilson Chandler. On talent alone he's not worth the 8th pick and then you have to consider him being on an expiring contract.

[Blkbrd671]

Disagree 100%. Russell is an SG in the mold of Harden and Ginobili that can handle the rock and make plays, but he's also capable of playing off the ball because of his ability to shoot the ball. He' absolutely does not have to be a super ball dominant PG that brings the ball up every possession, versus Mudiay who is exclusively a PG who will dominate the ball.

1. I don't think he nearly has the size to defend the 2 position, this is by far teh most important.
2. Harden was extremely raw coming out but could shoot the ball, he's more in the mold of Elfrid Payton with a jumpshot
3. IF your drafting Russell to be a SG, your wasting the pick. Furthermore if Detroit drafts russel, it'll because RJ or JEnnings+Dinwiddie are no longer on the team. Russels the type of player you want the ball in his hands, in our offense its the PG position.

[Blkbrd671]

Rumors out there that SVG is open to trading the #8 for veteran players....presumption is for SF. You guys here anything about that ?

SVG views this draft as a chance to add to its current core. THe only way we are trading the pick away or to move down, is because the incoming assets involve a player we can add to our core. We aren't in a rush, however there a opportunity to win now if the right deal comes along. (i am referring to playoffs and winning record)

[Kilo]

If Detroit trades the pick for a now player, said player will be on a rookie deal heading into RFA free-agency in a year or two. He ain't gonna trade #8 for a player who can bolt as a UFA in a year or two.

[ImHeisenberg]

If Detroit trades the pick for a now player, said player will be on a rookie deal heading into RFA free-agency in a year or two. He ain't gonna trade #8 for a player who can bolt as a UFA in a year or two.

I agree. But, I could see them trading back in the draft. Getting a "now" player and grabbing a guy like Bobby Portis, or a project like Oubre.

[Kilo]

The new cap doesn't impact rookie salary numbers right? So rookie deals are even a bigger bargain if you hit on a starter/star - as you have them cheap as hell for five years. When DeMarre Carroll is going to be getting $50M over the next four years, and we could have Winslow or Hezonja for $10M over the same next four years - that's incredible value to keep draft picks.

[Scout Taron]

The new cap doesn't impact rookie salary numbers right? So rookie deals are even a bigger bargain if you hit on a starter/star - as you have them cheap as hell for five years. When DeMarre Carroll is going to be getting $50M over the next four years, and we could have Winslow or Hezonja for $10M over the same next four years - that's incredible value to keep draft picks.

I'm pretty sure it does impact rookie salaries. Rookie salaries increase every year, so I assume they are defined as a percentage of the cap. Maybe not and the increases are written into the CBA concretely, but that'd be odd.

[Kilo]

^If they did go up - I would have expected to see more players stay in college for their sophomore seasons to cash in on the big rookie salary jump that would coincide with the ca skyrocket though - or at least discussion of it. I dunno. What you say would make sense of course.

[DBC10]

The new cap doesn't impact rookie salary numbers right? So rookie deals are even a bigger bargain if you hit on a starter/star - as you have them cheap as hell for five years. When DeMarre Carroll is going to be getting $50M over the next four years, and we could have Winslow or Hezonja for $10M over the same next four years - that's incredible value to keep draft picks.

I'm pretty sure it does impact rookie salaries. Rookie salaries increase every year, so I assume they are defined as a percentage of the cap. Maybe not and the increases are written into the CBA concretely, but that'd be odd.

There'd be some increases but not as a result of this new cap increase, but from the older cap standards. So rookie contracts won't scale with the new cap standards which really make them worth their weight in gold.

[E-Z]

I'd probably trade out of the draft altogether. The Pistons have enough unproven talent as it is already.

[sc8581]

I'd probably trade out of the draft altogether. The Pistons have enough unproven talent as it is already.

I'm still holding out hope we can trade #8 and #38 to Portland for Batum and #23, he's such a perfect fit.

[Joe Berry]

I'd probably trade out of the draft altogether. The Pistons have enough unproven talent as it is already.

I'm still holding out hope we can trade #8 and #38 to Portland for Batum and #23, he's such a perfect fit.

Too bad the draft is before free agency. Portland might be more willing to deal Batum (and rebuild) if they knew for sure LMA signs somewhere else.

[Snakebites]

I'd probably trade out of the draft altogether. The Pistons have enough unproven talent as it is already.

I'm still holding out hope we can trade #8 and #38 to Portland for Batum and #23, he's such a perfect fit.

Too bad the draft is before free agency. Portland might be more willing to deal Batum (and rebuild) if they knew for sure LMA signs somewhere else.

The trade would have to happen later on and involve the rights to players.

Given the likelyhood of us taking a small forward in the draft, it still could happen. Do we want it to, though? I mean, a year ago I'd have been all over Batum, but now I dunno....

[sc8581]

I'm still holding out hope we can trade #8 and #38 to Portland for Batum and #23, he's such a perfect fit.

Too bad the draft is before free agency. Portland might be more willing to deal Batum (and rebuild) if they knew for sure LMA signs somewhere else.

The trade would have to happen later on and involve the rights to players.

Given the likelyhood of us taking a small forward in the draft, it still could happen. Do we want it to, though? I mean, a year ago I'd have been all over Batum, but now I dunno....

A 25-26 year old SF that can shoot, defend and run the pick n roll extremely well, my only issue would be extending him before the trade.

[jakebernat]

Batum's defense is the most overrated part about him. I would trade up to #4, taking on Calderon in the process and ensuring we can draft Winslow before I gave up #8 for Batum.

[Snakebites]

Too bad the draft is before free agency. Portland might be more willing to deal Batum (and rebuild) if they knew for sure LMA signs somewhere else.

The trade would have to happen later on and involve the rights to players.

Given the likelyhood of us taking a small forward in the draft, it still could happen. Do we want it to, though? I mean, a year ago I'd have been all over Batum, but now I dunno....

A 25-26 year old SF that can shoot, defend and run the pick n roll extremely well, my only issue would be extending him before the trade.

And that's a pretty big issue IMO. Moving forward there will be lots of teams with cap space and he'll have lots of options. I don't think he'd do that.

It would take a huge commitment, add to that the fact that he's coming off a pretty disappointing season, and yeah, I'd be concerned to say the absolute least.