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Pistons Agree to Terms w/ Langston Galloway

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Re: Pistons Agree to Terms w/ Langston Galloway 

Post#401 » by vege » Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:49 pm

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vege wrote:Oh I had no idea he was this good in Sacramento, I was mad when we signed him, I thought Jonathon Simmons was a much better sign for the same amount of money, but so far Galloway is proving me wrong, I'm very pleased with him and he deserves more minutes, he's been shooting well and he is solid on defense too.

I like that he's our 3rd string pg too.


He was very bad at the PG during pre-season, I'd rather we have someone else for that spot.
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Re: Pistons Agree to Terms w/ Langston Galloway 

Post#402 » by bballnmike » Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:15 pm

vege wrote:
bballnmike wrote:
vege wrote:Oh I had no idea he was this good in Sacramento, I was mad when we signed him, I thought Jonathon Simmons was a much better sign for the same amount of money, but so far Galloway is proving me wrong, I'm very pleased with him and he deserves more minutes, he's been shooting well and he is solid on defense too.

I like that he's our 3rd string pg too.


He was very bad at the PG during pre-season, I'd rather we have someone else for that spot.

fair. I guess I'd rather pay more for a quality bench guy like Langston than split that on a mediocre backup sg and third string pg. Hopefully we won't need him to play pg
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Re: Pistons Agree to Terms w/ Langston Galloway 

Post#403 » by Uncle Mxy » Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:13 pm

I'm expecting some sort of "revert to the mean", here. I didn't much like this signing, but I've been happy with what I've seen so far.
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Re: Pistons Agree to Terms w/ Langston Galloway 

Post#404 » by flow » Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:24 pm

bballnmike wrote:
vege wrote:
bballnmike wrote:I like that he's our 3rd string pg too.


He was very bad at the PG during pre-season, I'd rather we have someone else for that spot.

fair. I guess I'd rather pay more for a quality bench guy like Langston than split that on a mediocre backup sg and third string pg. Hopefully we won't need him to play pg


Frankly, Luke should be the 3rd string point guard. He has PG instincts and IQ. He can handle the ball and make good decisions with it/make things happen with it. When he's on the floor, the ball should be in his hands as much as possible.

* He was also an all-state high school QB (in Ohio - a serious football state), which furthers his point guard make-up.

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Re: Pistons Agree to Terms w/ Langston Galloway 

Post#405 » by GreekAlex » Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:37 am

Some of his hot streaky games have shown promise but overall he's very disappointing.

I hate the 3 year commitment to a guy that's shown he's incapable of playing of playing any backup PG.

I don't mean to rain on the parade tonight but overcommitting to below average bench players and poor scouting & development of young players will hold this team back.
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Re: Pistons Agree to Terms w/ Langston Galloway 

Post#406 » by Snakebites » Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:27 am

Yeah, Galloway was shooting hot early on but he's really proving to be a lousy signing.

The fact that he has now shown he can't play point guard even in a pinch when someone's hurt was really the last nail in the coffin in that regard for me.

In the last 2 years we've given a number of nice contracts to guys in the 6-9 Milliion dollar range to play bench roles for us:

Leur
Boban
Ish
Galloway

All of those were overpays at the time. Only one of those I'm happy with is Ish. He's been damn good. Everyone else? Those contracts are hindering us. No sense pretending they aren't.

The trio of Boban, Leur, and Galloway will be making a combined 26 million for us next year after Boban's contract goes up to 9.5 million. Does that make anyone else cry? Just me? That's one fourth of our cap on 3 guys who don't belong in an NBA rotation. Christ on a bike, I didn't realize it was that bad. That's also when Avery Bradley is due a new deal. We wouldn't even need the "is he worth it" discussion if we didn't have 26 mill devoted to those guys. But it gets worse. Tobias is a UFA after next year, and we'll still be stuck with Leuer and Galloway then.

Boban's contract was 7 mill per, but I didn't realize it was back loaded. Van Gundy has made some absolutely horrific free agent signings, and those 3 might prevent us from resigning useful players like Bradley, Tobias, and Ish, all of whom come off the books in the next couple of years while some or all of those paper weights are still on payroll.
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Re: Pistons Agree to Terms w/ Langston Galloway 

Post#407 » by vege » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:15 am

Boban's contract cap hit is 7 mil next season, he will be paid 12 million in money, but the hit is 7 million. It has been discussed several times on the T&T boards.
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Re: Pistons Agree to Terms w/ Langston Galloway 

Post#408 » by Kilo » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:25 pm

vege wrote:Boban's contract cap hit is 7 mil next season, he will be paid 12 million in money, but the hit is 7 million. It has been discussed several times on the T&T boards.


If Pistons trade him they'll very likely have to include $3M in the deal to off-set that difference as much as allowable.
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Re: Pistons Agree to Terms w/ Langston Galloway 

Post#409 » by Kilo » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:40 pm

Snakebites wrote:Yeah, Galloway was shooting hot early on but he's really proving to be a lousy signing.

The fact that he has now shown he can't play point guard even in a pinch when someone's hurt was really the last nail in the coffin in that regard for me.

In the last 2 years we've given a number of nice contracts to guys in the 6-9 Milliion dollar range to play bench roles for us:

Leur
Boban
Ish
Galloway

All of those were overpays at the time. Only one of those I'm happy with is Ish. He's been damn good. Everyone else? Those contracts are hindering us. No sense pretending they aren't.

The trio of Boban, Leur, and Galloway will be making a combined 26 million for us next year after Boban's contract goes up to 9.5 million. Does that make anyone else cry? Just me? That's one fourth of our cap on 3 guys who don't belong in an NBA rotation. Christ on a bike, I didn't realize it was that bad. That's also when Avery Bradley is due a new deal. We wouldn't even need the "is he worth it" discussion if we didn't have 26 mill devoted to those guys. But it gets worse. Tobias is a UFA after next year, and we'll still be stuck with Leuer and Galloway then.

Boban's contract was 7 mill per, but I didn't realize it was back loaded. Van Gundy has made some absolutely horrific free agent signings, and those 3 might prevent us from resigning useful players like Bradley, Tobias, and Ish, all of whom come off the books in the next couple of years while some or all of those paper weights are still on payroll.


He goes a year too long every damn time. I know there is a Detroit tax, but it shouldn't be in years when we're already overpaying on money.

Stan wants what he wants when he wants it - he's an instant gratification personality. Wait until the end of the FA period and you can get a Tyreke Evans for a one year "prove it" deal.

I do think Galloway was signed in part to be a check against KCP leaving late in the FA season as Rich Paul really likes to stretch things out for maximum leverage. If Detroit signed nobody and the KCP walked we would have been looking at Kennard and Bullock as our SG starters. I wonder if Evans, among others, was targeted at all and maybe turned down the same offer.

Galloway still serves his purpose ROS because Kennard will hit the rookie wall, and he'll still struggle against more athletic players (probably his whole career). Also Bradley is a UFA and could leave in the off-season so We could be Kennard/Galloway next season - if AB left and we didn't have Langston here we'd be in a bit of a pickle to try and sign another SG with the MLE while trying to keep other's like Tolliver, or fill out roster with other vets by splitting the MLE.

If we re-sign AB though, Galloway NEEDS to be dealt. Kennard should get ALL the back-up 2-guard minutes behind Avery, and Galloway would be useless as a $7M third string SG.
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Re: Pistons Agree to Terms w/ Langston Galloway 

Post#410 » by El Chivo » Mon Jan 8, 2018 12:59 pm

mattao313 wrote:Dis dude not even a NBA player.


you were right.
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Re: Pistons Agree to Terms w/ Langston Galloway 

Post#411 » by Southern Piston » Mon Jan 8, 2018 1:37 pm

He’s a solid middle road player, overpaid in Detroit of course. SVG emphasized he wanted competitive environment, having so many “quality” players bring the level of play overall up, while also developing the rookies. 3 yrs is not the end of the world. Hopefully in 2 more seasons we are legit competitors, and our FA signings will be better. I don’t love it, but I do believe he is restructuring things in a positive direction, just a slower pace, maybe needed with late lottery picks, over what he would do with top lottery picks
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Re: Pistons Agree to Terms w/ Langston Galloway 

Post#412 » by Joe Berry » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:39 am

Galloway was SVG worst signing in his tenure here. Not because Galloway is a bad player or overpaid.
Because he was supposed to be 'Reggie insurance'. A combo guard who can play BOTH SG and PG. But anyone can see he can't play PG at all, he can't run an offense, he has zero playmaking skills. He is strictly a decent, undersized backup SG, who can catch & shoot 3s and do little else. Kennard is already a better player than him.
Beno was a better 3rd PG last season than Galloway, heck Dwight Buycks is a better PG than Galloway.
What a gigantic mistake only going into the season with 2 PG. Reggie went down and we've only got Ish and NOTHING else at PG, the most important position in SVG's offense.
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Re: Pistons Agree to Terms w/ Langston Galloway 

Post#413 » by Billl » Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:22 pm

The problem isn't Langston. He's a decent bench guy. He plays with energy and can knock down shots. The problem is the same as all the other guys who are "underperforming". We've got all these role players on the roster and we keep asking them to take on bigger roles to make up for the deficiencies of our "stars". There is a fine line between having role players that compliment your main guys and relying on role players to make up for what your main guys can't do.

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