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Re: Reggie Jackson Resigns 5/80 

Post#121 » by BadMofoPimp » Mon Jul 6, 2015 12:28 pm

RJ proved himself with OKC too and is getting better now that he has been given the reigns of his own team. And, if we haven't witnessed around the league with average starters like Carroll commanding $14 mil per year, then this is a good deal.
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Re: Reggie Jackson Resigns 5/80 

Post#122 » by Neptune » Mon Jul 6, 2015 12:42 pm

Man, Reggie deserved less than Knight! SVG's big blimp body better play Reggie at the 2 to make Reggie earn that 80mil, because Reggie at the 1 for a full season is a recipe for L's. SVG is starting to become an embarrassment to this organization. :-?


MotownMadness wrote:Here's all 3 PGs numbers after getting traded to their new teams. Reggie got paid right between the two.

Knight: 11 games, 13.4 points and 4.5 assists per game with a 10.5 player efficiency rating, according to Basketball Reference. A bum ankle sidelined him at the end of the season.

■ Dragic: 26 games, 16.6 points and 5.3 assists with an 18.8 rating.

■ Jackson: 26 games, 17.6 points and 9.2 assists with a 19.8 rating.

:noway: Come on, post the wins and losses for all three of those team when Knight, Dragic and Jackson were added. Folks forgetting the game of basketball is about winning!
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Post#123 » by Scout Taron » Mon Jul 6, 2015 12:48 pm

Neptune wrote:Man, Reggie deserved less than Knight! SVG's big blimp body better play Reggie at the 2 to make Reggie earn that 80mil, because Reggie at the 1 for a full season is a recipe for L's. SVG is starting to become an embarrassment to this organization. :-?


MotownMadness wrote:Here's all 3 PGs numbers after getting traded to their new teams. Reggie got paid right between the two.

Knight: 11 games, 13.4 points and 4.5 assists per game with a 10.5 player efficiency rating, according to Basketball Reference. A bum ankle sidelined him at the end of the season.

■ Dragic: 26 games, 16.6 points and 5.3 assists with an 18.8 rating.

■ Jackson: 26 games, 17.6 points and 9.2 assists with a 19.8 rating.

:noway: Come on, post the wins and losses for all three of those team when Knight, Dragic and Jackson were added. Folks forgetting the game of basketball is about winning!

Pistons went 7-4 while Monroe was out, aka when there was even a semblance of floor spacing. The spacing/talent around RJ and Drummond will only be better this year.
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Re: Reggie Jackson Resigns 5/80 

Post#124 » by El Chivo » Mon Jul 6, 2015 12:49 pm

princeofpalace wrote:The skepticism is because RJ is getting paid top dollar for a 20 game stretch- I think most think it was a fluke and that RJ will revert back into mediocrity next season. RJ is an average PG at best IMO but I think SVG's system gets the most out of PGs as evidenced by Jennings and Augustin putting up stats just as good if not better than RJ as starting PG.

I think RJ will only have a slight statistical dropoff next season. This is only an albatross contract if RJ 20games with the Pistons were a fluke.


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Post#125 » by Sheedpocalypse » Mon Jul 6, 2015 12:54 pm

As a big Reggie homer, I'm stoked. Ask me again in two years time lol
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Re: Reggie Jackson Resigns 5/80 

Post#126 » by El Chivo » Mon Jul 6, 2015 12:56 pm

I'm not even a RJ fan, but someone always predicts the worst scenario hoping to can say "I told you".
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Post#127 » by Blkbrd671 » Mon Jul 6, 2015 1:06 pm

princeofpalace wrote:DJ Augustin as starting PG in 14 games: 18 points/8 assists/3 boards/3TOs on 45% FG, 40% from 3, 94% FT in 35mpg
Jennings post Josh Smith- in 16 games: 20 points/7 assists/2 boards/2 TOs on 44% FG, 40% from 3, 82% FT in 28mpg

SVG gets a lot out of his PGs


So what your saying is.....we should have paid Stan 15 mil?





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Post#128 » by Kilo » Mon Jul 6, 2015 1:06 pm

It really is "Detroit vs Everybody"

Stan can't make one proper move/decision it seems according to know-it-alls around basketball writer/critic circles. I hope Reggie is reading all about how he's not worth it, and it's the worst contract of the off-season.

Dragic gets 18M a season over five years and nobody bats an eye because it's King Riley handing out that money. Demarre Carroll gets 60M over four years ie 15M/season, a whopping 1M less than Reggie's deal and again not a friggin peep.
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Post#129 » by princeofpalace » Mon Jul 6, 2015 1:10 pm

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princeofpalace wrote:DJ Augustin as starting PG in 14 games: 18 points/8 assists/3 boards/3TOs on 45% FG, 40% from 3, 94% FT in 35mpg
Jennings post Josh Smith- in 16 games: 20 points/7 assists/2 boards/2 TOs on 44% FG, 40% from 3, 82% FT in 28mpg

SVG gets a lot out of his PGs


So what your saying is.....we should have paid Stan 15 mil?


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LOL, he is the PG whisperer. We went from having trash at PG for 5+ years, to 3 viable options at PG with his coaching.
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Post#130 » by 313 Professor » Mon Jul 6, 2015 1:16 pm

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MotownMadness wrote:Here's all 3 PGs numbers after getting traded to their new teams. Reggie got paid right between the two.

Knight: 11 games, 13.4 points and 4.5 assists per game with a 10.5 player efficiency rating, according to Basketball Reference. A bum ankle sidelined him at the end of the season.

■ Dragic: 26 games, 16.6 points and 5.3 assists with an 18.8 rating.

■ Jackson: 26 games, 17.6 points and 9.2 assists with a 19.8 rating.


Don't leave out the negative numbers. RJ averaged 5 TO a game the last month, helped turn our playoff run into a 10-game losing streak, got benched for Dinwiddie, and was given two excuses to justify the losing and poor performance (new system & Monroe)


You're such a hater. So I guess they should of let him walk for nothing? He was getting that contract one way or another. Should we depend on your boy, the one-legged BJ7, who isn't even running yet?

Those two 'excuses' sound pretty legit to me. I thought people got their irrational statements out of the way when we drafted Stanley, but guess not.

SVG believes in Reggie. Kid is more talented than Brandon Jennings and I actually like Jennings.


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I am a Pistons fan. I'm not a hater lol it's just sad that we're overpaying by like $8 million a year. I get the inflation of the market, but at no point in time should a top tier role player get paid like a real all-star and make more than the league MVP at the same position. Especially not based off of pure excuses. Keep in mind we played our best basketball of the season last year with Monroe AND Jennings AND Drummond winning 12 out of 15 until Brandon went down. Why is it when RJ gets here and we lose 10 straight we then give him an excuse because we won without Monroe? :-? I don't get it. Even D.J. Augustin was doing alright with Monroe. Did yall watch the games?

The guy has made the highlights of his career on Beno Udrih & Zach Randolph. One of the worst combinations of perimeter defender and help/team defender you can make in the league. His great game in the playoffs with OKC came against them when he was a 3rd/4th option AND his great 20 assist game last year did as well. Idk how I'm a hater for watching the games with my eyes open and not inventing illogical excuses when things go wrong. I'm rooting for RJ... obviously.... but cmon :roll:
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Post#131 » by Blkbrd671 » Mon Jul 6, 2015 1:16 pm

princeofpalace wrote:The skepticism is because RJ is getting paid top dollar for a 20 game stretch- I think most think it was a fluke and that RJ will revert back into mediocrity next season. RJ is an average PG at best IMO but I think SVG's system gets the most out of PGs as evidenced by Jennings and Augustin putting up stats just as good if not better than RJ as starting PG.

I think RJ will only have a slight statistical dropoff next season. This is only an albatross contract if RJ 20games with the Pistons were a fluke.


There was nothing that rj did during that 20+ games that would indicated he couldn't do it consistently . He played very much with in himself . He's obviously a better fit in this system and posting near triple doubles as a pg......????? Bk7 not bj ever showed that.

I get what your saying about how svgs system seems to help pgs , however that doesn't lessen their value. At some point you need continuity and chemistry . You can just continually rotate in players and assume it'll work. . And all because you don't want to pay a player that some other team would pay.

We could have drafted a pg, signed a Fa pg (to probably a similar contract) or resigned a player who already has played 27 games for you and your franchise center loves........



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Post#132 » by Blkbrd671 » Mon Jul 6, 2015 1:18 pm

Kilo wrote:It really is "Detroit vs Everybody"

Stan can't make one proper move/decision it seems according to know-it-alls around basketball writer/critic circles. I hope Reggie is reading all about how he's not worth it, and it's the worst contract of the off-season.

Dragic gets 18M a season over five years and nobody bats an eye because it's King Riley handing out that money. Demarre Carroll gets 60M over four years ie 15M/season, a whopping 1M less than Reggie's deal and again not a friggin peep.


This is so true..........it's funny to read on the gb, posters trying not to act like they got there opinion from sports center


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Post#133 » by princeofpalace » Mon Jul 6, 2015 1:19 pm

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princeofpalace wrote:The skepticism is because RJ is getting paid top dollar for a 20 game stretch- I think most think it was a fluke and that RJ will revert back into mediocrity next season. RJ is an average PG at best IMO but I think SVG's system gets the most out of PGs as evidenced by Jennings and Augustin putting up stats just as good if not better than RJ as starting PG.

I think RJ will only have a slight statistical dropoff next season. This is only an albatross contract if RJ 20games with the Pistons were a fluke.


There was nothing that rj did during that 20+ games that would indicated he couldn't do it consistently . He played very much with in himself . He's obviously a better fit in this system and posting near triple doubles as a pg......????? Bk7 not bj ever showed that.

I get what your saying about how svgs system seems to help pgs , however that doesn't lessen their value. At some point you need continuity and chemistry . You can just continually rotate in players and assume it'll work. . And all because you don't want to pay a player that some other team would pay.

We could have drafted a pg, signed a Fa pg (to probably a similar contract) or resigned a player who already has played 27 games for you and your franchise center loves........


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I have not said this was a bad signing, Im just saying why everyone else hates it
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Post#134 » by 313 Professor » Mon Jul 6, 2015 1:21 pm

princeofpalace wrote:
Blkbrd671 wrote:
princeofpalace wrote:DJ Augustin as starting PG in 14 games: 18 points/8 assists/3 boards/3TOs on 45% FG, 40% from 3, 94% FT in 35mpg
Jennings post Josh Smith- in 16 games: 20 points/7 assists/2 boards/2 TOs on 44% FG, 40% from 3, 82% FT in 28mpg

SVG gets a lot out of his PGs


So what your saying is.....we should have paid Stan 15 mil?


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LOL, he is the PG whisperer. We went from having trash at PG for 5+ years, to 3 viable options at PG with his coaching.


Exactly. Every PG that played starters minutes for us put up good numbers after Josh was cut. Jennings, Jackson, Augustin, and even Dinwiddie. But no... Jackson is THE ONE. :roll: It's the system. If you play 4 out, 1 in with all shooters and a space jam big and don't get good numbers you are trash.
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Post#135 » by Blkbrd671 » Mon Jul 6, 2015 1:29 pm

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princeofpalace wrote:The skepticism is because RJ is getting paid top dollar for a 20 game stretch- I think most think it was a fluke and that RJ will revert back into mediocrity next season. RJ is an average PG at best IMO but I think SVG's system gets the most out of PGs as evidenced by Jennings and Augustin putting up stats just as good if not better than RJ as starting PG.

I think RJ will only have a slight statistical dropoff next season. This is only an albatross contract if RJ 20games with the Pistons were a fluke.


There was nothing that rj did during that 20+ games that would indicated he couldn't do it consistently . He played very much with in himself . He's obviously a better fit in this system and posting near triple doubles as a pg......????? Bk7 not bj ever showed that.

I get what your saying about how svgs system seems to help pgs , however that doesn't lessen their value. At some point you need continuity and chemistry . You can just continually rotate in players and assume it'll work. . And all because you don't want to pay a player that some other team would pay.

We could have drafted a pg, signed a Fa pg (to probably a similar contract) or resigned a player who already has played 27 games for you and your franchise center loves........


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I have not said this was a bad signing, Im just saying why everyone else hates it
everyone hates hit because they Google rj and read articles about him instead of watching film. If they did watch film, there really wouldn't be this much discussion about the contract .


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Post#136 » by The Penguin » Mon Jul 6, 2015 1:35 pm

Kilo wrote:It really is "Detroit vs Everybody"

Stan can't make one proper move/decision it seems according to know-it-alls around basketball writer/critic circles. I hope Reggie is reading all about how he's not worth it, and it's the worst contract of the off-season.

Dragic gets 18M a season over five years and nobody bats an eye because it's King Riley handing out that money. Demarre Carroll gets 60M over four years ie 15M/season, a whopping 1M less than Reggie's deal and again not a friggin peep.



It's the same thing with Winslow vs Johnson. If Miami takes Johnson over Winslow, all you'd hear about is "What a great fit, Johnson can be their long term answer at the 3, Riley does it again...". Stan takes Johnson, the better fit for our roster, and it's "the worst move of the night, Stan can't draft, etc...".

If we gave Carroll that contract, it would again be "LOL Pistons, overpaying role players", Masai does it and it's genius. What has Masai done to get his reputation? Lose playoff series with role players?

Like I said earlier, most opinion is lazy reaction and group think.
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Post#137 » by Kilo » Mon Jul 6, 2015 1:43 pm

Story is Detroit was bidding against themselves. Was Golden State bidding against themselves with they signed Draymond Green to the max money deal? Was Milwaukee bidding against themselves when they signed Khris Middleton to that monster deal? Tobias Harris is getting the same per year as Reggie - was Orlando bidding against themselves? This about that last one - Tobias Harris is getting paid 16M per season and might not even be the starter in Orlando with Hezonja and Gordon at the 3 & 4.
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Post#138 » by The Penguin » Mon Jul 6, 2015 1:54 pm

Kilo wrote:Story is Detroit was bidding against themselves. Was Golden State bidding against themselves with they signed Draymond Green to the max money deal? Was Milwaukee bidding against themselves when they signed Khris Middleton to that monster deal? Tobias Harris is getting the same per year as Reggie - was Orlando bidding against themselves? This about that last one - Tobias Harris is getting paid 16M per season and might not even be the starter in Orlando with Hezonja and Gordon at the 3 & 4.



They are all RFAs coming off their rookie deals, everyone knew they were easy matches in the current cap climate. Just like Butler / Green / Middleton / Harris, if Reggie was a UFA people don't think the Knicks, Kings or Lakers wouldn't have been calling him at 12:01 am? You aren't bidding against yourself, you are bidding against Reggie saying "Screw you guys, I can take the QO, hit UFA next year and recoup most of the money (if not make more) over the next 5 years". We literally just had this situation with Monroe, no one bothered to show him real interest last summer, this year he had several teams going after him and he had an average year last year.
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Post#139 » by ImHeisenberg » Mon Jul 6, 2015 1:55 pm

Kilo wrote:Story is Detroit was bidding against themselves. Was Golden State bidding against themselves with they signed Draymond Green to the max money deal? Was Milwaukee bidding against themselves when they signed Khris Middleton to that monster deal? Tobias Harris is getting the same per year as Reggie - was Orlando bidding against themselves? This about that last one - Tobias Harris is getting paid 16M per season and might not even be the starter in Orlando with Hezonja and Gordon at the 3 & 4.


90% of the posters are complete morons without even basic grammatical ability. Even sports pundits pander to the big markets.

The fact that Toronto is paying DeMarre Carroll, an okay role player who's already hit his ceiling $1 million per season LESS than Reggie isn't even a factor to these plebs. Look at the comments for Cory Joseph's $30 million contract. He was a third string PG who has had a few good games for his entire career, and the RealGM posters are applauding it and calling it a steal.

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Post#140 » by rmfc » Mon Jul 6, 2015 2:06 pm

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princeofpalace wrote:The skepticism is because RJ is getting paid top dollar for a 20 game stretch- I think most think it was a fluke and that RJ will revert back into mediocrity next season. RJ is an average PG at best IMO but I think SVG's system gets the most out of PGs as evidenced by Jennings and Augustin putting up stats just as good if not better than RJ as starting PG.

I think RJ will only have a slight statistical dropoff next season. This is only an albatross contract if RJ 20games with the Pistons were a fluke.


You complaining, what a surprise.


The guy /girl also said "ehh..it's common knowledge that Oubre is more talented than Stanley Johnson" prior to the draft. That and unending bad takes on RJ and Drummond.

I'd take his/her opinion with a grain of salt.

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