The Trade Thread

[Blkbrd671]

I feel like Brooklyn would be the one team that may consider. Jennings replacing Williams would suck but they need a little bit of youth and Smiths athleticism. Theyre payroll is so high that they have no choice but to try and contend. I did say Smith is someone that nobody would want which contradicted myself. But they have no frontcourt and owner who cares nothing about his payroll.

They aren't trading Williams and downgrade in overall talent for youth without incentive, and it be hard to argue Smith as incentive after the stance you've taken. If this trade went down, i wouldn't be angry, but again it would depend on what else we looked at in terms of trades

Williams value is dropping rapidly. The guy is still getting injections in his ankles to stay on the floor. He's going to be done before the end of his contract, so it may do them well to get out from under it. Could the answer be Jennings? Well that depends on the size of their ego. Does the franchise believe JKidd can coach Jennings up to the elite status? I wouldn't be surprised to see them take the bait.

Taking the cheaper pg would allow them flexibility to rebuild, because they aren't winning anything with their big ticket geriatric squad.

OK!? then why would we do it?

[MotownMadness]

They aren't trading Williams and downgrade in overall talent for youth without incentive, and it be hard to argue Smith as incentive after the stance you've taken. If this trade went down, i wouldn't be angry, but again it would depend on what else we looked at in terms of trades

Williams value is dropping rapidly. The guy is still getting injections in his ankles to stay on the floor. He's going to be done before the end of his contract, so it may do them well to get out from under it. Could the answer be Jennings? Well that depends on the size of their ego. Does the franchise believe JKidd can coach Jennings up to the elite status? I wouldn't be surprised to see them take the bait.

Taking the cheaper pg would allow them flexibility to rebuild, because they aren't winning anything with their big ticket geriatric squad.

OK!? then why would we do it?

Just don't worry about it. I'm done talking about it and don't really care.

[Blkbrd671]

Just don't worry about it. I'm done talking about it and don't really care.

These are the type of post that crack me up, Josh smith and Jennings are worthless chuckers, but Brooklyn really needs this type of TALENT, Williams can barely walk, but he's much better sitting on the bench injured than playing 2 capable players. Both teams say yes.

Maybe think through your arguments before making them

[MotownMadness]

Just don't worry about it. I'm done talking about it and don't really care.

These are the type of post that crack me up, Josh smith and Jennings are worthless chuckers, but Brooklyn really needs this type of TALENT, Williams can barely walk, but he's much better sitting on the bench injured than playing 2 capable players. Both teams say yes.

Maybe think through your arguments before making them

What the **** are you talking about? You think we are better and our young players are better with Smith and Jennings chucking shots and stunting Monroe and Drummonds growth? We aren't in the same position as Brooklyn with no draft picks and no capspace with the highest payroll in the league. They have to win and has a owner who has shown that he will pay those bad contracts that nobody else wants.

I don't give a **** if Williams ever plays a game for us and rides the bench, that's a hell of a lot better then watching these two idiots play hero ball.

Maybe you need to learn what the **** your talking about and it's nothing more than a trade idea in the **** trade idea thread. But let's hear your trade idea and see if it's more realistic then mine or are you really happy with this **** you watched last season.

[DetroitSho]

Just don't worry about it. I'm done talking about it and don't really care.

These are the type of post that crack me up, Josh smith and Jennings are worthless chuckers, but Brooklyn really needs this type of TALENT, Williams can barely walk, but he's much better sitting on the bench injured than playing 2 capable players. Both teams say yes.

Maybe think through your arguments before making them

What the **** are you talking about? You think we are better and our young players are better with Smith and Jennings chucking shots and stunting Monroe and Drummonds growth? We aren't in the same position as Brooklyn with no draft picks and no capspace with the highest payroll in the league. They have to win and has a owner who has shown that he will pay those bad contracts that nobody else wants.

I don't give a **** if Williams ever plays a game for us and rides the bench, that's a hell of a lot better then watching these two idiots play hero ball.

Maybe you need to learn what the **** your talking about and it's nothing more than a trade idea in the **** trade idea thread. But let's hear your trade idea and see if it's more realistic then mine or are you really happy with this **** you watched last season.

Whoa

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[Blkbrd671]

What the **** are you talking about? You think we are better and our young players are better with Smith and Jennings chucking shots and stunting Monroe and Drummonds growth? We aren't in the same position as Brooklyn with no draft picks and no capspace with the highest payroll in the league. They have to win and has a owner who has shown that he will pay those bad contracts that nobody else wants.

I don't give a **** if Williams ever plays a game for us and rides the bench, that's a hell of a lot better then watching these two idiots play hero ball.

Maybe you need to learn what the **** your talking about and it's nothing more than a trade idea in the **** trade idea thread. But let's hear your trade idea and see if it's more realistic then mine or are you really happy with this **** you watched last season.

So glad your not a GM, its a fact that paying any player 25 million for the next 3-4 years to sit on a bench is completely idiotic. Does not make our team better, and put us in financial hell. I know what i am talking about, because i can seperate my hatred for jennings and smith , with what makes sense for this team.

Scream and cus all you want, its still not going to make your argument make any sense

[MotownMadness]

These are the type of post that crack me up, Josh smith and Jennings are worthless chuckers, but Brooklyn really needs this type of TALENT, Williams can barely walk, but he's much better sitting on the bench injured than playing 2 capable players. Both teams say yes.

Maybe think through your arguments before making them

What the **** are you talking about? You think we are better and our young players are better with Smith and Jennings chucking shots and stunting Monroe and Drummonds growth? We aren't in the same position as Brooklyn with no draft picks and no capspace with the highest payroll in the league. They have to win and has a owner who has shown that he will pay those bad contracts that nobody else wants.

I don't give a **** if Williams ever plays a game for us and rides the bench, that's a hell of a lot better then watching these two idiots play hero ball.

Maybe you need to learn what the **** your talking about and it's nothing more than a trade idea in the **** trade idea thread. But let's hear your trade idea and see if it's more realistic then mine or are you really happy with this **** you watched last season.

Whoa

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He's just getting on my nerves. I just can't respect peoples basketball knowledge when they sit and defend what Smith and Jennings are doing. Of course trading both of them for any one player is a good move especially when you already have young players that can't touch the ball while these idiots play streetball with our team.

[MotownMadness]

What the **** are you talking about? You think we are better and our young players are better with Smith and Jennings chucking shots and stunting Monroe and Drummonds growth? We aren't in the same position as Brooklyn with no draft picks and no capspace with the highest payroll in the league. They have to win and has a owner who has shown that he will pay those bad contracts that nobody else wants.

I don't give a **** if Williams ever plays a game for us and rides the bench, that's a hell of a lot better then watching these two idiots play hero ball.

Maybe you need to learn what the **** your talking about and it's nothing more than a trade idea in the **** trade idea thread. But let's hear your trade idea and see if it's more realistic then mine or are you really happy with this **** you watched last season.

So glad your not a GM, its a fact that paying any player 25 million for the next 3-4 years to sit on a bench is completely idiotic. Does not make our team better, and put us in financial hell. I know what i am talking about, because i can seperate my hatred for jennings and smith , with what makes sense for this team.

Scream and cus all you want, its still not going to make your argument make any sense

Explain to me your side of how Smith and Jennings helps the team. So basically your saying Williams not playing and instead giving all the touches to Drummond, Monroe, KCP and the new draft pick is not better than watching two idiots take ill advised shots all game long? While another refuses to play any defense whatsoever. You don't see the big picture and clearly don't watch the crap that is happening on this team all last season.

Your glad I'm not the GM . It's not like I want to just go sign a guy for 20 mil a year to sit on the bench. I want to trade two complete cancers that a GM who just lost his job thinking like you screwed us over with.

[Blkbrd671]

Explain, So Williams not playing and instead giving all the touches to Drummond, Monroe, KCP and the new draft pick is not better than watching two idiots take ill advised shots all game long? While another refuses to play any defense whatsoever. You don't see the big picture and clearly don't watch the crap that is happening on this team all last season.

There's no explanation needed. Its common sense you'd rather have players that you pay to play than pay a player not too. Our team is a big mess right now, but your solution is trade for dead weight to let our inexperienced players play, which so you know, makes our team worse and our future season that much crappier. Its obvious your hatred of the too is blinding you to reason/common sense, so lets agree to disagree.

[MotownMadness]

Explain, So Williams not playing and instead giving all the touches to Drummond, Monroe, KCP and the new draft pick is not better than watching two idiots take ill advised shots all game long? While another refuses to play any defense whatsoever. You don't see the big picture and clearly don't watch the crap that is happening on this team all last season.

There's no explanation needed. Its common sense you'd rather have players that you pay to play than pay a player not too. Our team is a big mess right now, but your solution is trade for dead weight to let our inexperienced players play, which so you know, makes our team worse and our future season that much crappier. Its obvious your hatred of the too is blinding you to reason/common sense, so lets agree to disagree.

oh my god your a clueless fan. It's alright, throw on that JSmooveeee jersey and cheer your little heart out. How are you going to talk about me having no common sense and then go on to talk about our team being a big mess while defending the two players who are the REASON WHY we are such a big mess. You don't think we would have better record or the same record not playing the two biggest negative players in the league?

[DetroitSho]

Explain, So Williams not playing and instead giving all the touches to Drummond, Monroe, KCP and the new draft pick is not better than watching two idiots take ill advised shots all game long? While another refuses to play any defense whatsoever. You don't see the big picture and clearly don't watch the crap that is happening on this team all last season.

There's no explanation needed. Its common sense you'd rather have players that you pay to play than pay a player not too. Our team is a big mess right now, but your solution is trade for dead weight to let our inexperienced players play, which so you know, makes our team worse and our future season that much crappier. Its obvious your hatred of the too is blinding you to reason/common sense, so lets agree to disagree.

In fairness, Smiff and Jennings on the court is the same dead weight that Deron would be in a suit. Probably even more so. Let me ask you, would you do that deal if you was able to draft Smart too?

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[Blkbrd671]

oh my god your a clueless fan. It's alright, throw on that JSmooveeee jersey and cheer your little heart out. How are you going to talk about me having no common sense and then go on to talk about our team being a big mess while defending the two players who are the REASON WHY we are such a big mess. You don't think we would have better record or the same record not playing the two biggest negative players in the league?

as i said done talking to you. not arguing common sense.

[MotownMadness]

oh my god your a clueless fan. It's alright, throw on that JSmooveeee jersey and cheer your little heart out. How are you going to talk about me having no common sense and then go on to talk about our team being a big mess while defending the two players who are the REASON WHY we are such a big mess. You don't think we would have better record or the same record not playing the two biggest negative players in the league?

as i said done talking to you. not arguing common sense.

You have no common sense. So it's probably best that you just drop it.

[Blkbrd671]

In fairness, Smiff and Jennings on the court is the same dead weight that Deron would be in a suit

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I could see how that makes sense in terms of value, but reality and business decision wise, you don't trade 2 capable players that cost 25 million(ish) for 1 player that cost 25 million who won't play(assuming).

Probably even more so. Let me ask you, would you do that deal if you was able to draft Smart too?

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If we draft smart it becomes interesting as i would want smart to learn from deron, maybe not defensively . However, it would make much more sense to trade Smith for a equally bad contract or expiring, rather than tying up our payroll, and let jennings come off our bench(which i think would be perfect or at leas better thanbynum) or trade Moose for a young SF, and shift Smith to PF.

As i said earlier, if this were to happen, i'd hope its as a last resort because no one wants smith or jennings, and i really don't think when GM's look at whats happenign here, thats the case

[MotownMadness]

In fairness, Smiff and Jennings on the court is the same dead weight that Deron would be in a suit

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I could see how that makes sense in terms of value, but reality and business decision wise, you don't trade 2 capable players that cost 25 million(ish) for 1 player that cost 25 million who won't play(assuming).

Capable of What? Leading us to the lottery again with no draft pick and taking the most usage while playing absolutly terrible on a young team that should be developing they're actual prospects who have a shot at being real NBA players. And quit referring to them as 2 players for 1 player. It's more like 2 complete trash players for 1 decent player.

[DetroitSho]

In fairness, Smiff and Jennings on the court is the same dead weight that Deron would be in a suit

.

I could see how that makes sense in terms of value, but reality and business decision wise, you don't trade 2 capable players that cost 25 million(ish) for 1 player that cost 25 million who won't play(assuming).

Probably even more so. Let me ask you, would you do that deal if you was able to draft Smart too?

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If we draft smart it becomes interesting as i would want smart to learn from deron, maybe not defensively . However, it would make much more sense to trade Smith for a equally bad contract or expiring, rather than tying up our payroll, and let jennings come off our bench(which i think would be perfect or at leas better thanbynum) or trade Moose for a young SF, and shift Smith to PF.

As i said earlier, if this were to happen, i'd hope its as a last resort because no one wants smith or jennings, and i really don't think when GM's look at whats happenign here, thats the case

Buddy, where are you coming up with 25 million? Anyway, yeah my first choice would be to trade Smith for expirings. I'm really just addressing this particular scenario as it really isn't that far fetched as you may think.

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[Blkbrd671]

Buddy, where are you coming up with 25 million? Anyway, yeah my first choice would be to trade Smith for expirings. I'm really just addressing this particular scenario as it really isn't that far fetched as you may think.

when i read that, i asked myself the same thing, i'm sorry Deron's going to make 20+mil. I never said it was far fetched, i just don't think its something seriously being considered. If Deron williams was healthy, i'd pull the trigger as quickly as possible, problem is that he's not and he's only gettin older and more expensive

[Pharaoh]

Ok...so the Deron idea got some heat...

Question: how much of his salary would be paid by insurance, assuming his future features as many injuries as this season?

Question: IF we did Draft Smart and could trade Smith & Jennings for Deron is that a good idea?

Question: how many years remain on Deron's contract?

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[kurtis48239]

Deron is constantly injured,I dont think anyone would wanna trade for him.Hes guaranteed around 20 million for the next 3 seasons

[Redeemed]

They aren't trading Williams and downgrade in overall talent for youth without incentive, and it be hard to argue Smith as incentive after the stance you've taken. If this trade went down, i wouldn't be angry, but again it would depend on what else we looked at in terms of trades

Williams value is dropping rapidly. The guy is still getting injections in his ankles to stay on the floor. He's going to be done before the end of his contract, so it may do them well to get out from under it. Could the answer be Jennings? Well that depends on the size of their ego. Does the franchise believe JKidd can coach Jennings up to the elite status? I wouldn't be surprised to see them take the bait.

Taking the cheaper pg would allow them flexibility to rebuild, because they aren't winning anything with their big ticket geriatric squad.

OK!? then why would we do it?

We seem to think we can take broken players and bring them back to a place of prominence.

Getting Jennings would help the Nets. Getting DWill would handcuff our franchise. It would not be a good move for us. Lowry destroyed DWill in the first round and that destruction seems increasingly more evident with every passing game in the second round. That "Hibbert sized goose egg" in the scoring column should have never happened with a max level elite all star pg.

DWill is hurting. I think his ankles are shot and the pain from them doesn't seem to be something he can play through. Dude is done when he should be dominating his matchup against Mario Chalmers and Norris Cole.