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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#481 » by MotownMadness » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:34 pm

DTP wrote:Question, what good would Rondo alone really do for this team? We'd get worse at shooting and with the way point guards are falling to knee injuries nowadays, its quite the risk. I could see if Green came back too but alone, does it make much sense?

Or are you guys thinking Rondo plus add on during the off season?


I just don't see how we would get worse at shooting. Jennings is a terrible shooter and we would be putting Singler at the 3 instead of Smith. The floor spacing alone would be a great sight to see and the most important thing would be the defense.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#482 » by sc8581 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:37 pm

Q00 wrote:I got a Rondo trade that works in the trade machine and may be a win for all sides.

Pistons

In: Rondo & Jared Dudley
Out: Monroe & Jennings

Boston

In: Monroe & 2014 1st rd pick + Willie Green & Reggie Bullock (2m of cap filler)
Out: Rondo

LAC

In: Jennings
Out: 2014 1st rd pick, Dudley, Green/Bullock

Celtics end up with Monroe and a #1 pick for Rondo. Pistons end up with Rondo and a serviceable starting SF who can shoot 3s in Dudley. LAC ends up with Jennings, who they could really use with their backcourt injuries, and only have to give up some role players and a late 1st rd pick to get him.

I think Jennings would thrive in the west where his defense would be less of an issue and he can play a more open court game. Plus he would get to go home to LA, Rondo would get to play with Smith here, and Monroe would get to go back to playing his natural position & play for a great franchise in Boston.

Pistons become:

Rondo
KCP
Dudley
Smith
Drummond


The Clippers want Jennings because......
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#483 » by Q00 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:41 pm

DTP wrote:Question, what good would Rondo alone really do for this team? We'd get worse at shooting and with the way point guards are falling to knee injuries nowadays, its quite the risk. I could see if Green came back too but alone, does it make much sense?

Or are you guys thinking Rondo plus add on during the off season?


Rondo alone would make an immense difference. Defensively it would be night and day. Which is really the main problem here.

Plus, while Rondo isn't as good of a shooter as Jennings from 3, he's actually a better midrange shooter. Rondo shot 51% from 16 ft-3pt last year. So he's got the ability to keep defenses honest with his jumpshot and keep the court spread. I'll take Rondo shooting 51% on long 2s and taking them all within the flow of the offense, over Jennings shooting 34% on 3s and shooting them out of rhythm

He's also just a better PG offensively and knows the game way better/way more experienced. He's also not going to take shots that can hurt you and makes better decisions, as well as a much better finisher inside/better penetrator.

Plus he has the clout to keep Smith in check. He's not going to be afraid to yell at Smith if he takes a bad shot, and just his overall communication level that he brings on both ends is much greater than Jennings. This team needs someone who isn't afraid to talk and direct the team on the court, and just is a better leader period & just fills so many needs on this team it would be the perfect fit in my opinion
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#484 » by paQo the BAWSER » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:42 pm

sc8581 wrote:
Q00 wrote:I got a Rondo trade that works in the trade machine and may be a win for all sides.

Pistons

In: Rondo & Jared Dudley
Out: Monroe & Jennings

Boston

In: Monroe & 2014 1st rd pick + Willie Green & Reggie Bullock (2m of cap filler)
Out: Rondo

LAC

In: Jennings
Out: 2014 1st rd pick, Dudley, Green/Bullock

Celtics end up with Monroe and a #1 pick for Rondo. Pistons end up with Rondo and a serviceable starting SF who can shoot 3s in Dudley. LAC ends up with Jennings, who they could really use with their backcourt injuries, and only have to give up some role players and a late 1st rd pick to get him.

I think Jennings would thrive in the west where his defense would be less of an issue and he can play a more open court game. Plus he would get to go home to LA, Rondo would get to play with Smith here, and Monroe would get to go back to playing his natural position & play for a great franchise in Boston.

Pistons become:

Rondo
KCP
Dudley
Smith
Drummond


The Clippers want Jennings because......

:lol: no sense trade for clippers
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#485 » by Q00 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:51 pm

sc8581 wrote:
Q00 wrote:I got a Rondo trade that works in the trade machine and may be a win for all sides.

Pistons

In: Rondo & Jared Dudley
Out: Monroe & Jennings

Boston

In: Monroe & 2014 1st rd pick + Willie Green & Reggie Bullock (2m of cap filler)
Out: Rondo

LAC

In: Jennings
Out: 2014 1st rd pick, Dudley, Green/Bullock

Celtics end up with Monroe and a #1 pick for Rondo. Pistons end up with Rondo and a serviceable starting SF who can shoot 3s in Dudley. LAC ends up with Jennings, who they could really use with their backcourt injuries, and only have to give up some role players and a late 1st rd pick to get him.

I think Jennings would thrive in the west where his defense would be less of an issue and he can play a more open court game. Plus he would get to go home to LA, Rondo would get to play with Smith here, and Monroe would get to go back to playing his natural position & play for a great franchise in Boston.

Pistons become:

Rondo
KCP
Dudley
Smith
Drummond


The Clippers want Jennings because......


Did you not read my post? I just wrote why...

Because for one they have major backcourt injury issues with Paul sidelined and Redick in/out with all kinds of issues. Two, anytime a contender looking for extra talent to get over the hump can trade a few role players and a late pick for a top 5 assists PG on a fair deal, most contenders will take that deal. Even when those other guys return healthy, just having that extra upgrade in talent depth by adding a Jennings is a win come playoff time. He could either come off the bench or start next Paul off the ball. Bottom line, the Clippers chances of succeeding in the playoffs are greater with Jennings than with Dudley/Green/Bullock. The difference in talent is not even close. I honestly don't see why the Clippers wouldn't take that deal, being that they would giving up next to nothing for him.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#486 » by MotownMadness » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:52 pm

"The NBA trade deadline is still about a month away, but there are teams already looking at potential options when it comes to being active when the day rolls around. The Detroit Pistons are one of the teams expected to be active when the deadline comes and fans will be eager to see if their team makes a move that wakes the lethargic core.


This is news that fans will want to hear, as they’ve grown frustrated with another group of players failing to gel together. The biggest name that fans are looking at when it comes to trade rumors is Josh Smith, who could very well be on his way out of Detroit in his first year with the team.

From publicly stating he could care less about shooting statistics to just not looking as good as fans thought he would, Smith is the most likely candidate to be moved in a trade. A possible hangup in a Smith trade though is the fact that he just signed a contract with the team in the offseason, and the front office may not want to bail on him yet.

Detroit needs to do something to rejuvenate their roster and it appears that making a trade is the easiest way to do that".
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#487 » by Q00 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:56 pm

paQo the BAWSER wrote:
sc8581 wrote:
Q00 wrote:I got a Rondo trade that works in the trade machine and may be a win for all sides.

Pistons

In: Rondo & Jared Dudley
Out: Monroe & Jennings

Boston

In: Monroe & 2014 1st rd pick + Willie Green & Reggie Bullock (2m of cap filler)
Out: Rondo

LAC

In: Jennings
Out: 2014 1st rd pick, Dudley, Green/Bullock

Celtics end up with Monroe and a #1 pick for Rondo. Pistons end up with Rondo and a serviceable starting SF who can shoot 3s in Dudley. LAC ends up with Jennings, who they could really use with their backcourt injuries, and only have to give up some role players and a late 1st rd pick to get him.

I think Jennings would thrive in the west where his defense would be less of an issue and he can play a more open court game. Plus he would get to go home to LA, Rondo would get to play with Smith here, and Monroe would get to go back to playing his natural position & play for a great franchise in Boston.

Pistons become:

Rondo
KCP
Dudley
Smith
Drummond


The Clippers want Jennings because......

:lol: no sense trade for clippers


You're clueless if you think the Clippers wouldn't be interested in giving up their garbage for a PG avg 16 pts and 8 assits per game on a reasonable contract. To me that would be the easiest part of the deal to complete. Getting Boston to take Monroe and a late #1 pick for Rondo is the hard part.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#488 » by Q00 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:57 pm

MotownMadness wrote:
"The NBA trade deadline is still about a month away, but there are teams already looking at potential options when it comes to being active when the day rolls around. The Detroit Pistons are one of the teams expected to be active when the deadline comes and fans will be eager to see if their team makes a move that wakes the lethargic core.


This is news that fans will want to hear, as they’ve grown frustrated with another group of players failing to gel together. The biggest name that fans are looking at when it comes to trade rumors is Josh Smith, who could very well be on his way out of Detroit in his first year with the team.

From publicly stating he could care less about shooting statistics to just not looking as good as fans thought he would, Smith is the most likely candidate to be moved in a trade. A possible hangup in a Smith trade though is the fact that he just signed a contract with the team in the offseason, and the front office may not want to bail on him yet.

Detroit needs to do something to rejuvenate their roster and it appears that making a trade is the easiest way to do that".


link? where is this from?
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#489 » by ComboGuardCity » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:58 pm

^ source?
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#490 » by MotownMadness » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:01 pm

ComboGuardCity wrote:^ source?


Front page of Fansided.com
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#491 » by MotownMadness » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:05 pm

Q00 wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:
"The NBA trade deadline is still about a month away, but there are teams already looking at potential options when it comes to being active when the day rolls around. The Detroit Pistons are one of the teams expected to be active when the deadline comes and fans will be eager to see if their team makes a move that wakes the lethargic core.


This is news that fans will want to hear, as they’ve grown frustrated with another group of players failing to gel together. The biggest name that fans are looking at when it comes to trade rumors is Josh Smith, who could very well be on his way out of Detroit in his first year with the team.

From publicly stating he could care less about shooting statistics to just not looking as good as fans thought he would, Smith is the most likely candidate to be moved in a trade. A possible hangup in a Smith trade though is the fact that he just signed a contract with the team in the offseason, and the front office may not want to bail on him yet.

Detroit needs to do something to rejuvenate their roster and it appears that making a trade is the easiest way to do that".


link? where is this from?


http://fansided.com/2014/01/19/nba-trade-rumors-detroit-pistons-active-trade-deadline-josh-smith/
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#492 » by DBC10 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:06 pm

MotownMadness wrote:
"The NBA trade deadline is still about a month away, but there are teams already looking at potential options when it comes to being active when the day rolls around. The Detroit Pistons are one of the teams expected to be active when the deadline comes and fans will be eager to see if their team makes a move that wakes the lethargic core.


This is news that fans will want to hear, as they’ve grown frustrated with another group of players failing to gel together. The biggest name that fans are looking at when it comes to trade rumors is Josh Smith, who could very well be on his way out of Detroit in his first year with the team.

From publicly stating he could care less about shooting statistics to just not looking as good as fans thought he would, Smith is the most likely candidate to be moved in a trade. A possible hangup in a Smith trade though is the fact that he just signed a contract with the team in the offseason, and the front office may not want to bail on him yet.

Detroit needs to do something to rejuvenate their roster and it appears that making a trade is the easiest way to do that".
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#493 » by Q00 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:13 pm

MotownMadness wrote:
Q00 wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:


link? where is this from?


http://fansided.com/2014/01/19/nba-trade-rumors-detroit-pistons-active-trade-deadline-josh-smith/


Thats just all fan speculation. No actual rumor there.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#494 » by DTP » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:14 pm

Q00 wrote:
sc8581 wrote:
Q00 wrote:I got a Rondo trade that works in the trade machine and may be a win for all sides.

Pistons

In: Rondo & Jared Dudley
Out: Monroe & Jennings

Boston

In: Monroe & 2014 1st rd pick + Willie Green & Reggie Bullock (2m of cap filler)
Out: Rondo

LAC

In: Jennings
Out: 2014 1st rd pick, Dudley, Green/Bullock

Celtics end up with Monroe and a #1 pick for Rondo. Pistons end up with Rondo and a serviceable starting SF who can shoot 3s in Dudley. LAC ends up with Jennings, who they could really use with their backcourt injuries, and only have to give up some role players and a late 1st rd pick to get him.

I think Jennings would thrive in the west where his defense would be less of an issue and he can play a more open court game. Plus he would get to go home to LA, Rondo would get to play with Smith here, and Monroe would get to go back to playing his natural position & play for a great franchise in Boston.

Pistons become:

Rondo
KCP
Dudley
Smith
Drummond


The Clippers want Jennings because......


Did you not read my post? I just wrote why...

Because for one they have major backcourt injury issues with Paul sidelined and Redick in/out with all kinds of issues. Two, anytime a contender looking for extra talent to get over the hump can trade a few role players and a late pick for a top 5 assists PG on a fair deal, most contenders will take that deal. Even when those other guys return healthy, just having that extra upgrade in talent depth by adding a Jennings is a win come playoff time. He could either come off the bench or start next Paul off the ball. Bottom line, the Clippers chances of succeeding in the playoffs are greater with Jennings than with Dudley/Green/Bullock. The difference in talent is not even close. I honestly don't see why the Clippers wouldn't take that deal, being that they would giving up next to nothing for him.


LAC has Collison, end of discussion.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#495 » by princeofpalace » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:17 pm

If Joe D actually traded Smith by deadline, I would be THRILLED!
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#496 » by Q00 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:17 pm

Goodwill just put up a good article on potential trades

The Pistons have always been enamored with Rondo, the ultimate facilitator and competitor. And though Detroit has Brandon Jennings, he’s not necessarily viewed as a long-term option at point guard. His contract is moveable and the Pistons didn’t hesitate to trade Brandon Knight last offseason for an upgrade. What’s to stop them from making another stair-step move?

Stuckey, like Charlie Villanueva, is on an expiring contract and the Pistons face the prospect of possibly losing him for nothing in the offseason, as he’s an unrestricted free agent. Would they consider moving him to Orlando for former Piston Arron Afflalo? Or would the Magic turn that deal down?

With Jonas Jerebko toiling at the end of the bench and one year left on his contract, along with the aforementioned players, it wouldn’t be surprising to see the Pistons active. In fact, it would be a little shocking if they stand pat, even after bringing in eight new players this season.


http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2014 ... approaches
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#497 » by Q00 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:24 pm

DTP wrote:
LAC has Collison, end of discussion.


You mean the Collison avg 10 pts and 2.8 assists per game? lol

I doubt any contender would turn down the chance to add Jennings for their garbage because of Darren Collison.

A guard stable of Paul/Jennings/Crawford/Redick/Collison is better than Paul/Crawford/Redick/Collison. End of discussion.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#498 » by paQo the BAWSER » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:26 pm

Q00 wrote:
DTP wrote:
LAC has Collison, end of discussion.


You mean the Collison avg 10 pts and 2.8 assists per game? lol

I doubt any contender would turn down the chance to add Jennings for their garbage because of Darren Collison.

A guard stable of Paul/Jennings/Crawford/Redick/Collison is better than Paul/Crawford/Redick/Collison. End of discussion.

no, ain't better and i really doubt LAC wants jennings even for free
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#499 » by Q00 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:33 pm

paQo the BAWSER wrote:
Q00 wrote:
DTP wrote:
LAC has Collison, end of discussion.


You mean the Collison avg 10 pts and 2.8 assists per game? lol

I doubt any contender would turn down the chance to add Jennings for their garbage because of Darren Collison.

A guard stable of Paul/Jennings/Crawford/Redick/Collison is better than Paul/Crawford/Redick/Collison. End of discussion.

no, ain't better and i really doubt LAC wants jennings even for free



ok.... :roll:
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#500 » by paQo the BAWSER » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:34 pm

Q00 wrote:
You're clueless if you think the Clippers wouldn't be interested in giving up their garbage for a PG avg 16 pts and 8 assits per game on a reasonable contract. To me that would be the easiest part of the deal to complete. Getting Boston to take Monroe and a late #1 pick for Rondo is the hard part.

ain't no f***ing serious team which want jennings in his rotation... you're the only one who thinks jennings is that good, the same who thinks chris paul isn't special playing d

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