Reggie Jackson Resigns 5/80

Todd3 · Post #81 » by **Todd3** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 5:34 am

mattao313 wrote:Come on guys Reggie ain't better than Dragic he is one of the most efficient players in the league.

You mean one of the most overrated. Reggie took that guy to school.

Blkbrd671 · Post #82 » by **Blkbrd671** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 5:37 am

Chuck Texas wrote:Seems like a ton of money for a very unproven guy. Also seems like you guys bid against yourselves here a bit. Hope it works out. I've liked the rest of the Pistons off-season moves.

If you watched the last 27 games he played , he has proven everything he's needed to. Further more with cap rising, it's a bargain contract.........absolute steal for Detroit

Detroit vs Everybody

mattao313 · Post #83 » by **mattao313** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 5:37 am

Todd3 wrote:
mattao313 wrote:Come on guys Reggie ain't better than Dragic he is one of the most efficient players in the league.

You mean one of the most overrated. Reggie took that guy to school.

Just because he played well against him a couple games doesn't mean he is better.

Blkbrd671 · Post #84 » by **Blkbrd671** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 5:40 am

MotownMadness wrote:
mattao313 wrote:Come on guys Reggie ain't better than Dragic he is one of the most efficient players in the league.

Dragic is by far the better shooter but Reggie is the better PG and better finisher in traffic. I'm not going to sit and say Reggie is better then him but it's closer then some would think.

Agreed , I have them on the same tier

Detroit vs Everybody

Blkbrd671 · Post #85 » by **Blkbrd671** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 5:41 am

mattao313 wrote:
Todd3 wrote:
mattao313 wrote:Come on guys Reggie ain't better than Dragic he is one of the most efficient players in the league.

You mean one of the most overrated. Reggie took that guy to school.

Just because he played well against him a couple games doesn't mean he is better.

Moreso after each player was traded, rj outperformed dragic.

Detroit vs Everybody

Post #86 » by **Snakebites** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 5:43 am

Do yourselves a favor, folks, don't look on the General and Trade boards to get outsiders' perspectives on this move.

Wow.

To be clear, this deal isn't a steal, and isn't without risk. But its the right thing to do.

Post #87 » by **Snakebites** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 5:52 am

whitehops wrote:Ok so I'll do my little projection here for this contract. I just rounded his contract to $16 million flat per year, though I'm sure it increases.

All figures in millions:
Reggie in 2016 - $16
2016 salary cap - $69
% of cap - 23.2%

Reggie in 2017 - $16
Projected cap in 2017 - $89
% of cap - 18%

Reggie in 2018 - $16
Projected cap in 2018 - $108
% of cap - 14.8%

After that the cap is expected to settle at around $100 million, which obviously makes reggie's contract 16% of the salary cap.

Based on that, his contract going forward will be the equivalent of the following amounts, based on the $63 million cap last year :

2016 - $14.6 million
2017 - $11.3 million
2018 - $9.3 million
2019/beyond - $10 million

Not to be a bug, but what are these cap projections you're using based on and where did you get them?

DETermination · Post #88 » by **DETermination** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 5:55 am

Snakebites wrote:Do yourselves a favor, folks, don't look on the General and Trade boards to get outsiders' perspectives on this move.

Wow.

To be clear, this deal isn't a steal, and isn't without risk. But its the right thing to do.

Pretty much everyone on the gb has hated on every move pistons have done, haters gona hate I guess.

Post #89 » by **Snakebites** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 6:00 am

DETermination wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Do yourselves a favor, folks, don't look on the General and Trade boards to get outsiders' perspectives on this move.

Wow.

To be clear, this deal isn't a steal, and isn't without risk. But its the right thing to do.

Pretty much everyone on the gb has hated on every move pistons have done, haters gona hate I guess.

I figured perceptions of the move would be negative among the general population who didn't really watch Reggie play here and paid close attention to how the drama played out in OKC, but I was pretty surprised by how unanimous and unequivocally negative the reaction has been.

Todd3 · Post #90 » by **Todd3** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 6:15 am

mattao313 wrote:
Todd3 wrote:
mattao313 wrote:Come on guys Reggie ain't better than Dragic he is one of the most efficient players in the league.

You mean one of the most overrated. Reggie took that guy to school.

Just because he played well against him a couple games doesn't mean he is better.

Just because Dragic may have more efficient numbers doesn't mean he is better though, and that wasnt just any couple games ,the 2nd one was basically win or go home with regards to the playoffs. Reggie showed me something that day. Down 15 with 5 min left and our season on the line, he refused to give in and willed us to victory all by himself. Dragic wet the bed and got his team all but eliminated from the playoffs because he couldnt stop Reggie. That is the PG I want leading my team because in the playoffs its more about will than efficiency.

Reggie proved he can be just as efficient too though once we put the right personnel around him.

I guess its subjective who is really better but I personally like Jackson.

Todd3 · Post #91 » by **Todd3** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 6:18 am

DETermination wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Do yourselves a favor, folks, don't look on the General and Trade boards to get outsiders' perspectives on this move.

Wow.

To be clear, this deal isn't a steal, and isn't without risk. But its the right thing to do.

Pretty much everyone on the gb has hated on every move pistons have done, haters gona hate I guess.

The Pistons could sign LeBron for the vet minimum and the general public would say they overpaid lol .Its always like that with Michigan teams for some reason. I just laugh most of the time.

sc8581 · Post #92 » by **sc8581** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 6:32 am

Todd3 wrote:
mattao313 wrote:
Todd3 wrote:
You mean one of the most overrated. Reggie took that guy to school.

Just because he played well against him a couple games doesn't mean he is better.

Just because Dragic may have more efficient numbers doesn't mean he is better though, and that wasnt just any couple games ,the 2nd one was basically win or go home with regards to the playoffs. Reggie showed me something that day. Down 15 with 5 min left and our season on the line, he refused to give in and willed us to victory all by himself. Dragic wet the bed and got his team all but eliminated from the playoffs because he couldnt stop Reggie. That is the PG I want leading my team because in the playoffs its more about will than efficiency.

Reggie proved he can be just as efficient too though once we put the right personnel around him.

I guess its subjective who is really better but I personally like Jackson.

Last sentence of the first paragraph says more than people can handle, well said.

Blkbrd671 · Post #93 » by **Blkbrd671** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 7:06 am

Snakebites wrote:Do yourselves a favor, folks, don't look on the General and Trade boards to get outsiders' perspectives on this move.

Wow.

To be clear, this deal isn't a steal, and isn't without risk. But its the right thing to do.

Dj Augustine who is a expiring contract this season, kyle singler and 2 first rounders. Rj can not be defined "consistent" quite yet but over those past 27 games he showed more than Brandon knight or Jennings ever showed. And that includes chemistry with our core players. With cap going up, how you can't see this as a steal at the price we paid is puzzling to me.

Detroit vs Everybody

Blkbrd671 · Post #94 » by **Blkbrd671** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 7:13 am

DETermination wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Do yourselves a favor, folks, don't look on the General and Trade boards to get outsiders' perspectives on this move.

Wow.

To be clear, this deal isn't a steal, and isn't without risk. But its the right thing to do.

Pretty much everyone on the gb has hated on every move pistons have done, haters gona hate I guess.

Pistons have a place in basketball history that most teams wish wasn't there. We've always been the team no one believed in but had to chew that crow eventually. Rooting for us is rooting against the odds.

Furthermore they probably know about as much as us as we know of them.

Our team will do our talking . I'm thinking about creating a thread for other posters to post to eat that crow.

Detroit vs Everybody

DETermination · Post #95 » by **DETermination** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 7:48 am

Blkbrd671 wrote:
DETermination wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Do yourselves a favor, folks, don't look on the General and Trade boards to get outsiders' perspectives on this move.

Wow.

To be clear, this deal isn't a steal, and isn't without risk. But its the right thing to do.

Pretty much everyone on the gb has hated on every move pistons have done, haters gona hate I guess.

Pistons have a place in basketball history that most teams wish wasn't there. We've always been the team no one believed in but had to chew that crow eventually. Rooting for us is rooting against the odds.

Furthermore they probably know about as much as us as we know of them.

Our team will do our talking . I'm thinking about creating a thread for other posters to post to eat that crow.

Detroit vs Everybody

To all the haters I just play this song and laugh
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDN_VFXMsCA[/youtube]

Shady_ · Post #96 » by **Shady_** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 7:58 am

DETermination wrote:To all the haters I just play this song and laugh
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDN_VFXMsCA[/youtube]

good god that song is trash...

Todd3 · Post #97 » by **Todd3** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 8:03 am

sc8581 wrote:
Todd3 wrote:
mattao313 wrote:Just because he played well against him a couple games doesn't mean he is better.

Just because Dragic may have more efficient numbers doesn't mean he is better though, and that wasnt just any couple games ,the 2nd one was basically win or go home with regards to the playoffs. Reggie showed me something that day. Down 15 with 5 min left and our season on the line, he refused to give in and willed us to victory all by himself. Dragic wet the bed and got his team all but eliminated from the playoffs because he couldnt stop Reggie. That is the PG I want leading my team because in the playoffs its more about will than efficiency.

Reggie proved he can be just as efficient too though once we put the right personnel around him.

I guess its subjective who is really better but I personally like Jackson.

Last sentence of the first paragraph says more than people can handle, well said.

Thanks

Spider156 · Post #98 » by **Spider156** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 8:04 am

I knew this signing would get that type of reaction from non-Pistons fans. I think it was very fair and we got him at a great price. I hated on Harden getting a max...I didn't know what I was talking about. The same thing will happen. Not saying RJ will be as good as him, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him become a star.

DETermination · Post #99 » by **DETermination** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 8:06 am

I hope Drummond gets the max extension soon to go with this.

Pharaoh · Post #100 » by **Pharaoh** » Mon Jul 6, 2015 8:17 am

The expected signing happens and the expected reaction follows...