Gary harris vs kcp
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Gary harris vs kcp
Which player would you rather have on our team if it came to that and who you think will be the better player
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I'm happy enough with KCP. Neither are elite shooters, but they're good enough. Harris is a better slasher and playmaker, but KCP is a better defender and capable of shifting up to guard SFs, something that Harris cannot do. KCP is a better athlete as well, but if Harris stays healthy and is in a good situation for him, I could see him being a bit better due to his ability to handle the ball.
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Harris pretty easily.
That said, I'm still inclined to give KCP some time, so I'm not anxious to draft a two unless he's clearly the best player available.
That said, I'm still inclined to give KCP some time, so I'm not anxious to draft a two unless he's clearly the best player available.
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KCP is bigger, is a better defender. He's also is pretty athletic, while Harris is not an elite athlete. He's a good athlete, but not elite. KCP and Harris' shooting percentages in college aren't world's apart. So, I can't give Harris an edge on the offensive end, as he's not much of a passer or ball handler himself.
I think Harris is going to be a solid shooting guard in the NBA. He won't be a star, but he will be a reliable starter. I wouldn't draft him when we already have KCP. But that's just an unbiased opinion.
I think Harris is going to be a solid shooting guard in the NBA. He won't be a star, but he will be a reliable starter. I wouldn't draft him when we already have KCP. But that's just an unbiased opinion.
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we need 3D players. it does not hurt to have both kcp and harris.
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Harris will be a better basketball player than KCP. With that being said i don't think the difference is big enough to warrant drafting Harris with our pick.
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Harris is slated to go 8-12. When I asked about KCP's value on the trade forum, the response was generally a low first, at best.
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KCP because he's better defensively, has better size, has better athleticism, he's just better
Both will be very good going forward regardless.

Both will be very good going forward regardless.
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Based on what we saw in KCP's rookie year and Harris' sophomore season, I really can't see any reason to prefer Harris except for age.
KCP definitely has the better NBA body and athleticism. Harris' rep as a shooter is better, but his numbers last year certainly don't back it up. KCP is already a solid defender, great covering the pass and OK on his man, and should only get better.
If you're looking for someone to score, there's a decent but hardly rock solid argument for preferring Harris. If you're looking for a ball handler or passer, don't look to either of these guys. If you're looking for a defender, there's a strong argument in favor of KCP.
KCP definitely has the better NBA body and athleticism. Harris' rep as a shooter is better, but his numbers last year certainly don't back it up. KCP is already a solid defender, great covering the pass and OK on his man, and should only get better.
If you're looking for someone to score, there's a decent but hardly rock solid argument for preferring Harris. If you're looking for a ball handler or passer, don't look to either of these guys. If you're looking for a defender, there's a strong argument in favor of KCP.
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Harris looks better now, but KCP also looked better than Harris last year when both were in college, so its not really fair to compare how one does vs NBA talent when the other is going against college players. Though I'm not sure their differences in skillset are enough to warrant using the 8th pick two years in a row on such similar players.
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I'd lean to KCP because of his size and athleticism, but both players need to be working hard just to be a consistent starter in this league. They are close enough talentwise that it will come down to who works harder in the next few years.
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I think that KCP can guard most wing players, so I don't see why they can't both play together. And either one is a nice player to have off the bench.
That said I'd rather not draft Harris.
That said I'd rather not draft Harris.
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I like Harris as a player, but I wouldn't give up on KCP yet this early since it makes no sense unless he showed that he absolutely can't be a starter in this league.
KCP's the better athlete and defender and his shooting touch when given the greenlight is pretty good too.
KCP's the better athlete and defender and his shooting touch when given the greenlight is pretty good too.
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If KCP can stop dreaming when he is on the court, I think that he has higher upside than Harris.
I would give KCP another year...at least. So, no SGs needed from this draft.
I would give KCP another year...at least. So, no SGs needed from this draft.
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Dont make the mistake of the thinking guards that shot well from 3 as in the man in college and had bad shooting their rookie year wont develop their shooting as a less ball dominant player.
Case in point aaron afflalo
I wouldnt write kcp off as a non shooter so early especially given the lack of rhythm he's been getting
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Case in point aaron afflalo
I wouldnt write kcp off as a non shooter so early especially given the lack of rhythm he's been getting
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I would rather have KCP than Harris, due to size, athletic ability, and versatility. It's more likely that KCP can be an impactful defender at the NBA level than Harris. Plus, we already have KCP and I'd like to give him a few years before we bail.
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If Harris is the best player there when we pick, I would have absolutely no issue with the Pistons drafting him.
He can shoot, and he can defend. Stuckey is gone, leaving guard minutes available. Harris and KCP can battle it out for the starting two, and we can have another awesome shooting/defending guard off the bench.
I have absolutely no problem with the possibility of drafting Gary Harris. He seems like a really nice guy too.
He can shoot, and he can defend. Stuckey is gone, leaving guard minutes available. Harris and KCP can battle it out for the starting two, and we can have another awesome shooting/defending guard off the bench.
I have absolutely no problem with the possibility of drafting Gary Harris. He seems like a really nice guy too.
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I have no problem with drafting Harris in general. I do have a problem with drafting him at #8.
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If KCP could do half of what he did in the last game, then we're better off with him, but as mentioned, I don't see why we couldn't have both.
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KCP's quite the athlete. Elite speed and lateral quickness. But yeah, if Harris is the best one available, I have no problem in taking him.
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