vege wrote:thesack12 wrote:vege wrote:
Why don't you try to address my arguments, instead of trying to make fun of me calling me Smeagol, for some dumb reason?
Show me where I am wrong.
Is CoJo a good player? Show me with data to backup that.
Does he have a good contract?
Does a late 2nd in a draft we already have 2 2nds have any value? When was the last time a player drafted 55-60 (which is likely where that pick will land), turn into a NBA player? Or was an asset to move up in the draft?
I often agree with you, but don't happen to with this particular move.
Specifically regarding the 2nds, I will agree that it would have been preferable if both of them were future ones as opposed to just one, to help restock the pantry. However, with three 2nds in this draft that provides a good amount of opportunity to move around the draft board this year. It also provides opportunity to trade at least one of them during the draft, in exchange of future picks to help restock the pantry in the upcoming lean years.
I am more than fine with people disagreeing with me, what is getting annoying is people who are clueless, disagreeing and instead of address my post, trying to make fun for some dumb reason. I have most of them on my foe list so it's whatever.
You can buy that Lakers pick for very little money every draft if you like a player in that range, and it's very rare that a player drafted that low will become even an end of bench player. That pick has 0 value. It doesn't even add value to move up. My bet is, we end up selling it for some money to Gores.
We acquired the #38 pick for less money than what we are taking from CoJo's contract.
The Sacramento 2nd is fine but tit should cost more than that to take on the dead money we're taking from CoJo, because that's what he is, 100% dead money.
That package has negative value in my opinion, so we paid Sacramento to take on Wright. That's laughable. Like I said several times already, Weaver got robbed in every single trade he did.
Also we're trying to develop young players. Guys like Wright and Plumlee are important imo. They're high BBIQ players. We're not developing anyone with DSJr and Hayes running the team, they're pretty bad taking care of the ball, and they have very limited court vision. Bey/Stewart are not going to get the shots they were getting when they played with Wright.
The final result was a disaster for SVG, but in the early days he was an absolute beast in trades. He got a bunch of above average starters giving up 0 value (Mook and Tobias for example)
I don’t think Joseph is here to stay. Even if he is, this trade is more about clearing a path for the younger players.
If they made this trade to get Cory the player and not Cory the contract this is odd and bad.
This is more about getting a little bit worse short term.