What would the Pistons' return in a Beef Stew trade look like?

[typedrat]

I'm coming from the Kings forum in peace to inquire about what you guys think we would need to offer in order to get Isaiah Stewart. We're in a rough situation ourselves as we recover from our own horrible mismanagement and time in the NBA basement, and while we don't have many assets, we need to find a way to get ourselves a long, defensive 4 who can at least somewhat shoot the ball.

For one, what do Pistons fans, who are more familiar with his game, think about the fit? Also, what would it take in addition to Kevin Huerter to make the deal happen? He's not really in a position to start for us, and he's enough of a rhythm shooter that we just don't have the minutes to give him in order to take advantage of his skills.

[7r5ur]

Huerter is redundant in Detroit as well with Beasley and THJ here, so his contract would not be appealing to the Pistons. That means, he'd probably have to go to a 3rd team or Sac would have to incentivize the Pistons to take him in addition to what they would offer for Stewart in terms of assets.

You might get a mix of opinions on Stewart here, but I think the Pistons need his ability to stretch the floor and defend from the center position, so it would take an overpay from my perspective (no idea what Langdon thinks).

Because of that, It's hard to see a deal. The only guys I really have an interest in are Keon Ellis and Devin Carter. Of course, draft picks are also interesting.

[VicVinegar]

Contract/age wise, Huerter for Stew seems reasonable, but Pistons are weak when it comes to big man depth, so I don't see anything there.

I think most view Stew around here as a good role player with a less than ideal contract and a low ceiling. Quite frankly, he's just not a starter, but I think he definitely provides some 3 and D value getting 20 -25 minutes a night.

Honestly if a team wanted to acquire him, it shouldn't cost much of anything. It just makes zero sense right now as he's more valuable to the pistons than whatever they'd get back. Most likely scenario is they'd move him in the offseason to create cap space, and then could draft or sign a replacement. But right now with little center depth and no free agent targets left, it just doesn't make sense for the Pistons.

[chrbal]

We can trade you Paul Reed sometime in late November. I can’t see Stewart being available. Not saying he’s amazing, but he’s among the guys that got screwed by Monty’s lack of interest in last season

[theBigLip]

Contract/age wise, Huerter for Stew seems reasonable, but Pistons are weak when it comes to big man depth, so I don't see anything there.

I think most view Stew around here as a good role player with a less than ideal contract and a low ceiling. Quite frankly, he's just not a starter, but I think he definitely provides some 3 and D value getting 20 -25 minutes a night.

Honestly if a team wanted to acquire him, it shouldn't cost much of anything. It just makes zero sense right now as he's more valuable to the pistons than whatever they'd get back. Most likely scenario is they'd move him in the offseason to create cap space, and then could draft or sign a replacement. But right now with little center depth and no free agent targets left, it just doesn't make sense for the Pistons.

Agree on the Pistons need for big man depth but disagree another team wouldn’t need much to acquire him. He’s a solid rotation player on a playoff team. His 4 year deal is around the MLE for each year (probably year 4 he will be paid beneath it).

So you need to give us something to just take Huerter’s remaining two years and another something to get Stewart. So give us two out of three of (a good) FRP or Ellis or Carter.

[JennetteMcCurdy]

He’s a solid rotation player on a playoff team. His 4 year deal is around the MLE for each year (probably year 4 he will be paid beneath it).

Is there any proof that he’s a solid player on a playoff team?

And in year four of his four year contract, he’s a value!

[7r5ur]

He’s a solid rotation player on a playoff team. His 4 year deal is around the MLE for each year (probably year 4 he will be paid beneath it).

Is there any proof that he’s a solid player on a playoff team?

And in year four of his four year contract, he’s a value!

Players that hustle, defend, and shoot at above average rates ALWAYS find a spot in a playoff rotation. There's a reason that his biggest suitors in the trade market the last couple of years have ALL been top-end teams (Boston, Dallas, and OKC). Every great team needs a few of these guys.

[JennetteMcCurdy]

He’s a solid rotation player on a playoff team. His 4 year deal is around the MLE for each year (probably year 4 he will be paid beneath it).

Is there any proof that he’s a solid player on a playoff team?

And in year four of his four year contract, he’s a value!

Players that hustle, defend, and shoot at above average rates ALWAYS find a spot in a playoff rotation. There's a reason that his biggest suitors in the trade market the last couple of years have ALL been top-end teams (Boston, Dallas, and OKC). Every great team needs a few of these guys.

Yea but have there been any specific offers for Stewart that you can quote?

If not, it’s null and void

[7r5ur]

Is there any proof that he’s a solid player on a playoff team?

And in year four of his four year contract, he’s a value!

Players that hustle, defend, and shoot at above average rates ALWAYS find a spot in a playoff rotation. There's a reason that his biggest suitors in the trade market the last couple of years have ALL been top-end teams (Boston, Dallas, and OKC). Every great team needs a few of these guys.

Yea but have there been any specific offers for Stewart that you can quote?

If not, it’s null and void

Of course we don't know specific offers. We just know that the teams that want him are some of the top teams in the league. Good teams aren't looking to bring in Stewart's $15M/year to not play him in their rotation!

[JennetteMcCurdy]

Players that hustle, defend, and shoot at above average rates ALWAYS find a spot in a playoff rotation. There's a reason that his biggest suitors in the trade market the last couple of years have ALL been top-end teams (Boston, Dallas, and OKC). Every great team needs a few of these guys.

Yea but have there been any specific offers for Stewart that you can quote?

If not, it’s null and void

Of course we don't know specific offers. We just know that the teams that want him are some of the top teams in the league. Good teams aren't looking to bring in Stewart's $15M/year to not play him in their rotation!

So as it stands, no one really wants Stewart for the price. Glad we all agree on that!

[7r5ur]

Yea but have there been any specific offers for Stewart that you can quote?

If not, it’s null and void

Of course we don't know specific offers. We just know that the teams that want him are some of the top teams in the league. Good teams aren't looking to bring in Stewart's $15M/year to not play him in their rotation!

So as it stands, no one really wants Stewart for the price. Glad we all agree on that!

What? lol

Teams apparently didn't want him for the price Weaver (and so far Langdon) have for him. That's all we know. We DO know that Boston, OKC, and Dallas wanted him AFTER the contract extension was signed. Any talk on the value returned would be conjecture.

[Piston Pete]

Pretty sure the Kings don’t have the assets enough to warrant trading them Stew. The players we’d want, they’d want to keep. The players they’d make available, we wouldn’t/shouldn’t want.

Moving on

[theBigLip]

Of course we don't know specific offers. We just know that the teams that want him are some of the top teams in the league. Good teams aren't looking to bring in Stewart's $15M/year to not play him in their rotation!

So as it stands, no one really wants Stewart for the price. Glad we all agree on that!

What? lol

Teams apparently didn't want him for the price Weaver (and so far Langdon) have for him. That's all we know. We DO know that Boston, OKC, and Dallas wanted him AFTER the contract extension was signed. Any talk on the value returned would be conjecture.

Totally agree w BDM. I don’t understand Jeanette’s logic on this one.

[Kalamazoo317]

To answer the OP's other question that hasn't really been answered: I'm not sure he's really a fit. He's much more suited to being a back up 5 than a starting 4.

[Drwho17]

Pretty sure the Kings don’t have the assets enough to warrant trading them Stew. The players we’d want, they’d want to keep. The players they’d make available, we wouldn’t/shouldn’t want.

Moving on

They have the assets, they just might not want to give them.

I'd do, Huerter/Carter for Stewart/Sasser for example.

[theBigLip]

Pretty sure the Kings don’t have the assets enough to warrant trading them Stew. The players we’d want, they’d want to keep. The players they’d make available, we wouldn’t/shouldn’t want.

Moving on

They have the assets, they just might not want to give them.

I'd do, Huerter/Carter for Stewart/Sasser for example.

I like Carter but I think he’s compensation for taking on Huerter. They need to add something else to get Stewart, like a draft pick.

[Cowology]

Stew is needed. Not to say he's unavailable, but it would take an unlikely over pay to pry him free because we'd immediately need to find another big who can both defend & shoot. Makes this largely a non-starter.

Stew makes more sense as part of a package that would secure an upgrade. He's not the guy we want to move for picks/prospects.

[uncleoswald]

Stewart is on a great contract - every Pistons fan would say the same. Earlier this summer, I advocated for pairing him with one or more of our young core (Ivey, Sasser) and trying to trade for an impact player at the SG or PF positions. Since then, we've spent a high draft pick on a SF/PF (Holland) and spent a lot of money on another one (Harris).

I'm not sure I would have drafted Holland - I liked Clingan - or signed Harris had I been in charge. But without a strong option behind Duren, I think we need to ride it out with Stewart. It's not the best option, in my opinion, but I'm telling myself to let TL cook.

Stewart has been in the league for four years and won 74 total games (18.5/year average). Brutal.

[Billl]

I don't think the team is interested in moving him for a 1-1 type deal. His name has been in some of the rumored packages for a bigger name player, but I think that's because he 1) has value and 2) has a substantial but fairly reasonable contract for salary matching.

[Snakebites]

Stew is needed. Not to say he's unavailable, but it would take an unlikely over pay to pry him free because we'd immediately need to find another big who can both defend & shoot. Makes this largely a non-starter.

Stew makes more sense as part of a package that would secure an upgrade. He's not the guy we want to move for picks/prospects.

What do you think Stew’s ceiling as a shooter is?

As of now I don’t think his shooting brings much value given he isn’t actually spreading the floor with it- teams are still able to lay off of him without consequence. To me unless you think it’s an aspect of his game that can expand it’s of smaller importance.