The Tank 11'12 thread.

rcg · Post #1341 » by **rcg** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:49 am

If we end up tied for 7th and some team jumps us to the top #3, pushing us down the ladder to #8 do we lose the draft pick to Utah or is it only contingent on finishing bottom 7 in the standings?

Also in the event of a tie for 7th, what happens if nobody jumps over us, we fail to jump to the top 3 and the tie at 7th is broken with a coin flip, causing us to pick 8th. Do we lose the pick to Utah?

All of these possibilities sound very GSW-ish.

killacalijatt · Post #1342 » by **killacalijatt** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:14 am

Rodney **** Stuckey missed two damn freethrows at the end of the game that would have gave Det the W. Instead Rose hits a game tieing three to seal the deal in OT. Damn u stuckey.
Atleast Tor won.Whooohoooo. Sac also won giving them 20 wins only 2 back.

EvanZ · Post #1343 » by **EvanZ** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:17 am

rcg wrote:If we end up tied for 7th and some team jumps us to the top #3, pushing us down the ladder to #8 do we lose the draft pick to Utah or is it only contingent on finishing bottom 7 in the standings?

Yes. The chance of losing the pick if we get the 7th spot is 25%.

Also in the event of a tie for 7th, what happens if nobody jumps over us, we fail to jump to the top 3 and the tie at 7th is broken with a coin flip, causing us to pick 8th. Do we lose the pick to Utah?

Yes.

Northx57 · Post #1344 » by **Northx57** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:18 am

rcg wrote:If we end up tied for 7th and some team jumps us to the top #3, pushing us down the ladder to #8 do we lose the draft pick to Utah or is it only contingent on finishing bottom 7 in the standings?

Also in the event of a tie for 7th, what happens if nobody jumps over us, we fail to jump to the top 3 and the tie at 7th is broken with a coin flip, causing us to pick 8th. Do we lose the pick to Utah?

All of these possibilities sound very GSW-ish.

Warriors lose the pick if they get pushed down to 8, it doesnt matter where they finish. I definitely have a bad feeling about this because this franchise is no stranger to having things go terribly wrong for them.

Post #1345 » by **floppymoose** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:27 am

Toronto won, but Detroit lost in OT. Cavs also lost.

Hornets got Gordon back and won against a tough Memphis squad, so that gives me some hope about our matchup with them.

Code: Select all

5  Cleveland      20     39     .339
6  New Jersey     22     39     .361
7  Toronto        22     39     .361
8  Detroit        22     38     .367
9  Golden State   22     37     .373

CLE: @Detroit, Philadelphia, NY Knicks, @San Antonio, @Memphis, Washington, @Chicago
NJN: Miami, NY Knicks @Milwaukee, Philadelphia, @Toronto
TOR: Atlanta, @Miami, @Detroit, @Milwaukee, New Jersey
DET: Cleveland, @Atlanta, Minnesota, Toronto, @Indiana, Philadelphia

Blue is games that are likely wins. Green is a game where one of the 5-8 win teams MUST win.

We *almost* control our own destiny. If we lose out one of NJN/TOR has to pass us, and DET has to lose out to not pass us, which means CLE has another win at a minimum.

GSW: San Antonio, Los Angeles, Dallas, @Houston, @Minnesota, New Orleans, San Antonio

If the blue games are wins, and the green games go to the home teams, and the rest are losses, it will look like this:

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5  Cleveland      21     45
6  New Jersey     22     44
7  Toronto        23     43
8  Detroit        25     41

That would mean we have to lose all our remaining games to be in the top 7 for sure (coin flip for 6/7). If we win one game it will be a coin flip for 7/8.

Of course, that's just going into the lottery. After that the ping pong balls decide. Specifically, the ones Stern put water in.

Yi Jian Lian · Post #1346 » by **Yi Jian Lian** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:47 am

Stuckey...

GSForever · Post #1347 » by **GSForever** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:09 am

NO has reason to play hard in front of their new owner

don nelson · Post #1348 » by **don nelson** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:26 am

GSForever wrote:NO has reason to play hard in front of their new owner

You actually think Tom Benson who already owns the NO Saints was so stupid he did not even bother to check out the Hornets before plunking down $338 million to buy the team?

azenall · Post #1349 » by **azenall** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:41 am

TIEBREAKER BASIS:
(-) Tie breaker not needed (better overall winning percentage)
(1) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division
(2) Head-to-head won-lost percentage
(3) Conference won-lost percentage
(4) W-L Percentage vs. Playoff teams, own conference
(5) W-L Percentage vs. Playoff teams, other conference
(6) Net Points, all games

GSForever · Post #1350 » by **GSForever** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:06 am

Isn't it ironic that Gordon comes back at the same time this is happening. I'm sure he's looking for a max contract

Post #1351 » by **floppymoose** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:14 am

I think those are tiebreakers for playoff seeding. For lotto position, it's always been just a coin flip. Then the lotto ball possibilities are adjusted to make the odds for the two teams as even as possible. If there are an odd number of lotto combos to divide, the coin flip winner gets the extra combination.

migya · Post #1352 » by **migya** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:26 am

Another good day for the tank. Raps doing it for us, Stuckey the toss stuffed it. Kings still a chance to pass us, only two wins away. Cavs also maybe going to pass us

heyrayray · Post #1353 » by **heyrayray** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:53 am

With David Lee done, theirs no way in hell were winning any more games.

DreDay · Post #1354 » by **DreDay** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:25 am

One thing that aids us is our 3 games in a row. This is what I would do in the first game of the 3 in a row:

Jenkins 38 mins
Klay 42 mins
Wright 42 mins
Tyler 38 mins
Biedrins 42 mins

They will be too burned out for the next two games, and Biedrins is a huge court negative.

Coxy · Post #1355 » by **Coxy** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:24 pm

GSForever wrote:Isn't it ironic that Gordon comes back at the same time this is happening. I'm sure he's looking for a max contract

Max contract? Eric Gordon? Wat?

Coxy · Post #1356 » by **Coxy** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:29 pm

oaklandwarriors wrote:One thing that aids us is our 3 games in a row. This is what I would do in the first game of the 3 in a row:

Jenkins 38 mins
Klay 42 mins
Wright 42 mins
Tyler 38 mins
Biedrins 42 mins

They will be too burned out for the next two games, and Biedrins is a huge court negative.

Biedrins iso ball every play.

migya · Post #1357 » by **migya** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:21 pm

Coxy wrote:
GSForever wrote:Isn't it ironic that Gordon comes back at the same time this is happening. I'm sure he's looking for a max contract

Max contract? Eric Gordon? Wat?

He might well get an above 12 million a year deal, he is that hyped and now is playing real good at the right time

EvanZ · Post #1358 » by **EvanZ** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:46 pm

Afflalo just got $8M, so it wouldn't surprise me to see Gordon get at least $10M.

curryshimmy · Post #1359 » by **curryshimmy** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:43 pm

Eric Gordon is one of those "good" players that is always hurt :lol:

marthafokker · Post #1360 » by **marthafokker** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:00 pm

Coxy wrote:
oaklandwarriors wrote:One thing that aids us is our 3 games in a row. This is what I would do in the first game of the 3 in a row:

Jenkins 38 mins
Klay 42 mins
Wright 42 mins
Tyler 38 mins
Biedrins 42 mins

They will be too burned out for the next two games, and Biedrins is a huge court negative.

Biedrins iso ball every play.

As the HC, I would sit anyone not passing to AB for ISO play every possession. :lol: