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Game 51: Golden State Warriors (40-10) @ Utah Jazz (21-28) - 9:00 PM ET

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Re: Game 51: Golden State Warriors (40-10) @ Utah Jazz (21-28) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#21 » by cpower » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:49 am

BG wrote:we just have zero energy today (except for javale, who's having nice minutes) and utah's hitting everything. it's just one of those nights i guess...

thats because our offense is stagnant and KD ISO more than 10 times tonight. The team has felt the negative energy but nobody dares to say anything to him including Kerr.
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Re: Game 51: Golden State Warriors (40-10) @ Utah Jazz (21-28) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#22 » by BW32 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:55 am

Shaun is in full space taker mode, only out there cuz you need 5 players.
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Re: Game 51: Golden State Warriors (40-10) @ Utah Jazz (21-28) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#23 » by Badly Browned » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:58 am

Warriors out there with a training camp scrimmage intensity.

Also, the Warriors bench wings are the teams biggest weakness right now.
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Re: Game 51: Golden State Warriors (40-10) @ Utah Jazz (21-28) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#24 » by LoyalGSWfan » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:14 am

Really no excuse for this lackadaisical effort from our guys. Two full days off before this game and we just come cruising in with absolutely no intensity, no fire, no nothing.
No disrespect to Rubio and Ingles but they cant be dominating the point guard and small forward postion in a game against the Warriors. Iggy and Shawn are invisible again tonight.
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Re: Game 51: Golden State Warriors (40-10) @ Utah Jazz (21-28) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#25 » by SFrush » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:47 am

KD looks like he needs a few games to rest that foot injury. He couldn't stick with Ingles at all.
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Re: Game 51: Golden State Warriors (40-10) @ Utah Jazz (21-28) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#26 » by Phase 3 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:20 am

Had to work late and recorded the game. Saw the final score. Will not be watching it lol.
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Re: Game 51: Golden State Warriors (40-10) @ Utah Jazz (21-28) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#27 » by Coxy » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:00 am

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Post#28 » by HiRez » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:05 am

Lots of brutal badness all around today, but to me there were 2 plays that kind of summed up the whole night. The first was the first play of the second half. Jazz shot and missed, No Jazz with inside rebounding position, but none of the Warriors went after the ball. Instead of finding and boxing out Favors, Draymond just stood there and gave a half-hearted reach for it but it went off his fingers, allowing Gobert (guarded by a disinterested Zaza) to swoop in and grab the ball.

The second play was where Durant got the ball a few feet inside the left corner, Curry uses Durant to hide behind him and pop the 3, a play they've run successfully a number of times this year. But Curry inexplicably bobbles the ball and trips, falling out of bounds and turning the ball over.

Just so much weak, half-assed energy. The defense hasn't been great lately but it was absolutely horrendous tonight. How the hell do you keep leaving Ingles wide open on the line when he keeps drilling 3 after 3 after 3? Durant got burned by him a number of times, apparently not able to be bothered to move to challenge his shot.

On the plus side, it was nice to see Klay find his stroke again, and nice to see McGee have a true impact game like we saw last year, unfortunately both for naught.
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Re: Game 51: Golden State Warriors (40-10) @ Utah Jazz (21-28) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#29 » by The-Power » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:26 am

HiRez wrote:On the plus side, it was nice to see Klay find his stroke again, and nice to see McGee have a true impact game like we saw last year, unfortunately both for naught.

McGee's defense has been horrible this year and last night was no exception. That's why we hardly see McGee on the floor anymore.
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Re: Game 51: Golden State Warriors (40-10) @ Utah Jazz (21-28) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#30 » by Mylie10 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:18 pm

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HiRez wrote:On the plus side, it was nice to see Klay find his stroke again, and nice to see McGee have a true impact game like we saw last year, unfortunately both for naught.

McGee's defense has been horrible this year and last night was no exception. That's why we hardly see McGee on the floor anymore.


He doesn't even play enough to draw that conclusion. To small a sample size. I just think they decided to go in another direction this season.

If McGee were part of the regular rotation, even more so than last year, I think between Ron Adams and Kerr, as well as Draymond on the floor, would be in McGee's head constantly to rotate, stay down, rebound, etc.. He's not opposed to coaching.
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Re: Game 51: Golden State Warriors (40-10) @ Utah Jazz (21-28) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#31 » by The-Power » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:39 pm

Mylie10 wrote:He doesn't even play enough to draw that conclusion. To small a sample size. I just think they decided to go in another direction this season.

291 minutes are six full games. Sure, not enough to be completely reliable but having a 118.1 DRTG (105.8 when he's off the court) for those minutes as the Center is enough evidence to support the eye-test – McGee has been horrible on defense this year. I agree that he'd look better on defense with more practice and more Green next to him. But how long would you expect a coach to wait for McGee to settle in? McGee is supposed to be a spark off the bench. He has to work in that role right away. He hasn't – looking at offense and defense combined – and so Kerr turned to other options. It's really as simple as that.

Now, I do like McGee. Great personality, nobody who complains but instead cheers for his teammates. I love having him on the team and in some moments, he can give us something on the court. But these moments have become rare and better options have risen. So in terms of on-court production, we don't need McGee and it's smart by Kerr to realize that other options provide us with more these days. Sucks for him, though.
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Re: Game 51: Golden State Warriors (40-10) @ Utah Jazz (21-28) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#32 » by Mylie10 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:44 pm

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Mylie10 wrote:He doesn't even play enough to draw that conclusion. To small a sample size. I just think they decided to go in another direction this season.

291 minutes are six full games. Sure, not enough to be completely reliable but having a 118.1 DRTG (105.8 when he's off the court) for those minutes as the Center is enough evidence to support the eye-test – McGee has been horrible on defense this year. I agree that he'd look better on defense with more practice and more Green next to him. But how long would you expect a coach to wait for McGee to settle in? McGee is supposed to be a spark off the bench. He has to work right in that role right away and hasn't – on defense – so Kerr turned to other options. It's really as simple as that.

Now, I do like McGee. Great personality, nobody who complains but instead cheers for his teammates. I love having him on the team and in some moments, he can give us something on the court. But these moments have become rare and better options have risen. So in terms of on-ball production, we don't need McGee and it's smart by Kerr to realize that other options provide us with more these days. Sucks for him, though.


Since neither of us know for sure, Im going to say that I think that behind the scenes there is something going on. It may coincide with the addition of Young, who is very tight with Javale. It may be as simple as Kerr not seeing Javale work hard enough off the court. Maybe Javale popped off about something. Not sure.

But since Jvale is healthy by all accounts, I believe he could be fine on defense if he were in a solid consistent rotation. I have no reason to believe he is doing anything on purpose to play poorly.

Again, neither of us know for sure, but its not as simple as that as you say.
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Re: Game 51: Golden State Warriors (40-10) @ Utah Jazz (21-28) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#33 » by bakesale » Thu Feb 1, 2018 6:14 am

The-Power wrote:
Mylie10 wrote:He doesn't even play enough to draw that conclusion. To small a sample size. I just think they decided to go in another direction this season.

291 minutes are six full games. Sure, not enough to be completely reliable but having a 118.1 DRTG (105.8 when he's off the court) for those minutes as the Center is enough evidence to support the eye-test – McGee has been horrible on defense this year. I agree that he'd look better on defense with more practice and more Green next to him. But how long would you expect a coach to wait for McGee to settle in? McGee is supposed to be a spark off the bench. He has to work in that role right away. He hasn't – looking at offense and defense combined – and so Kerr turned to other options. It's really as simple as that.

Now, I do like McGee. Great personality, nobody who complains but instead cheers for his teammates. I love having him on the team and in some moments, he can give us something on the court. But these moments have become rare and better options have risen. So in terms of on-court production, we don't need McGee and it's smart by Kerr to realize that other options provide us with more these days. Sucks for him, though.

If all you do is total the minutes it looks like enough. However if he just gets on and off the court for 2-3 minutes at a time and a lot of those times are garbage time when it doesn't matter either way perhaps we really are judging too quickly. If he got regular rotation minutes, rather than highly sporadic ones once every 3 games or so, I don't think it's fair to fully judge him one way or another.

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