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Post#21 » by Crazy-Canuck » Thu May 15, 2025 4:37 am

cpower wrote:get a stretch 4. get another shooter. resign Looney for cheap. get JK/TJD out of the team.



Weirdly enough, the heat have the perfect archtypes needed for this team: Wiggins and Ware.
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Post#22 » by cpower » Thu May 15, 2025 4:43 am

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cpower wrote:get a stretch 4. get another shooter. resign Looney for cheap. get JK/TJD out of the team.



Weirdly enough, the heat have the perfect archtypes needed for this team: Wiggins and Ware.

nah. we need offense in playoffs. Wiggins dont help your offense in playoffs
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Post#23 » by Senchu » Thu May 15, 2025 5:22 am

Trade and swap 26/27 picks for soemthing
Sign Melton.
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Post#24 » by vvoland » Thu May 15, 2025 5:38 am

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Who are those “types” that we are trading for then? Name some.


OKC got Caruso for a sex offender who at the time many considered the worst player in the NBA

that's kinda the point of trades, to get better value than you dole out


Can you go out on a limb and literally name one NBA player who you think we can trade for?


I'd take a run at KP, horford, white, jrue, or Pritchard. Poke around the centers in Dallas. See what the clippers and grizz plan to do. Sniff around the kd market. There's a ton that's going to happen, it sounds like. The real shame is we won't be in position to do something this summer as we don't have enough contracts, unless we decide to move dray. More likely, we make a jk decision, bring in a few vet mins, sign someone for the MLE, and go into next season with essentially this same roster with a Melton type in the mix.

Maybe we'll be able to aggregate contacts by December again and can try for the next Jimmy Butler situation. Seems highly unlikely so the best bet will probably be rooting for health and massive growth from the kids that are left
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Post#25 » by whatisacenter » Thu May 15, 2025 7:28 am

Steph, Jimmy and Draymond are going to be old AF next season…good luck putting a good enough supporting roster together with how much of the salary cap they take up.

Keeping all 3 will be a mistake.
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Post#26 » by Crazy-Canuck » Thu May 15, 2025 7:42 am

whatisacenter wrote:Steph, Jimmy and Draymond are going to be old AF next season…good luck putting a good enough supporting roster together with how much of the salary cap they take up.

Keeping all 3 will be a mistake.


I think it'll be inevitable. Kerr and mjd will try to find the right pieces around him.

Lacob is the x factor. He might not want to give steph that last run. Instead choosing to pay kuminga and build around him. Look at all the fans jumping on the kuminga train after 2 games. X100 for lacob.
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Post#27 » by Romulus » Thu May 15, 2025 8:03 am

I'm actually seeing people -- including sports writers -- say Warriors should sign JK to a large contract (obviously) and keep him. Really?

Here's the truth: If you bring JK back, you have to fire Steve Kerr. Why? Kerr has proven he won't play him, especially in the playoffs. The only reason JK played in this series was because Steph got hurt and Kerr was desperate for offense. Otherwise, he likely wouldn't have played a minute. JK and Kerr just don't work together.

We all know Kerr is coaching this team as long as Curry is here (his stated goal). So Kerr is staying. JK should be in a sign and trade and get what you can get for him. It's unfair to JK to hold him hostage here. Whether he turns out to be a really good NBA player? Hard to say, other than yes, he has talent. Will it translate to winning? Perhaps. Perhaps not. This team and specifically this coach is absolutely a poor fit for JK's future. Surely he knows that. Surely the Warriors know that, too. Right?
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Post#28 » by DAWill1128 » Thu May 15, 2025 8:33 am

With Stephs injury it's really hard to say where we were at in terms of roster construction. I don't believe 2nd round teams should be doing full rebuilds. That's a top 4 finish in a conference of 15. I don't think the Wolves would have beaten us with Steph. He's not a guy you leave your guy on an island with and those doubles and traps free up a lot of easy offense.

Now if Steph was healthy, and we advanced to the WCF, who knows what the end result is?

If we were a young team, you would stay pat and let the guys continue to develop together. In our case, we are an older team, so a drop-off is more likely than a rise. Some people may want something drastic, but we are all feeling surprised, not expected disappointment as a result of Steph's injury turning the series.

Kuminga was the guy I wanted in the draft. I saw his one-on-one ability from the G-League. I have ripped the franchise every step for their refusal to use him in trades to help Steph win. In this series, Kuminga finally turned the corner, his attacks were more decisive with fewer dribbles, he went for boards, he didn't settle for jumpers, and his on-ball defense was awesome, I thought. I hated the two timelines because I was an all-in guy, but I don't know any forward in the NBA the Warriors could get that could average 20ppg and defend the other teams best guard. Now, if you value another position on the floor, maybe I could see it, if it was a Porzingis-type stretch big, or a Simons type shooter and ball handler. But from a pure talent standpoint at the forward position, I think the franchise will be in a very tough position to be able to acquire better.
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Post#29 » by xfactor99 » Thu May 15, 2025 10:08 am

Romulus wrote:I'm actually seeing people -- including sports writers -- say Warriors should sign JK to a large contract (obviously) and keep him. Really?

Here's the truth: If you bring JK back, you have to fire Steve Kerr. Why? Kerr has proven he won't play him, especially in the playoffs. The only reason JK played in this series was because Steph got hurt and Kerr was desperate for offense. Otherwise, he likely wouldn't have played a minute. JK and Kerr just don't work together.

We all know Kerr is coaching this team as long as Curry is here (his stated goal). So Kerr is staying. JK should be in a sign and trade and get what you can get for him. It's unfair to JK to hold him hostage here. Whether he turns out to be a really good NBA player? Hard to say, other than yes, he has talent. Will it translate to winning? Perhaps. Perhaps not. This team and specifically this coach is absolutely a poor fit for JK's future. Surely he knows that. Surely the Warriors know that, too. Right?


I think the only way that makes sense is if JK refuses to play ball on a sign and trade and just signs a contract with the Nets for $30-35 mill per. Now instead of letting him leave for nothing, you match it, then wait until December 15 when you can trade him.

On the court like you said it's a terrible fit, but I'd rather do that then just let JK leave for nothing. It's like what the Suns did matching DeAndre Ayton even though he didn't want to be there, they didn't want him there, and they ended up flipping him for Jusuf Nurkic (oops).
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Post#30 » by Jester_ » Thu May 15, 2025 11:33 am

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Can you go out on a limb and literally name one NBA player who you think we can trade for?


off the top of my head? someone like Rui


No defending, low iq, no rebounding, but athletic? I think we have one of those.



he's big and shoots over 40% from deep
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Post#31 » by SpreeS » Thu May 15, 2025 12:26 pm

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Romulus wrote:I'm actually seeing people -- including sports writers -- say Warriors should sign JK to a large contract (obviously) and keep him. Really?

Here's the truth: If you bring JK back, you have to fire Steve Kerr. Why? Kerr has proven he won't play him, especially in the playoffs. The only reason JK played in this series was because Steph got hurt and Kerr was desperate for offense. Otherwise, he likely wouldn't have played a minute. JK and Kerr just don't work together.

We all know Kerr is coaching this team as long as Curry is here (his stated goal). So Kerr is staying. JK should be in a sign and trade and get what you can get for him. It's unfair to JK to hold him hostage here. Whether he turns out to be a really good NBA player? Hard to say, other than yes, he has talent. Will it translate to winning? Perhaps. Perhaps not. This team and specifically this coach is absolutely a poor fit for JK's future. Surely he knows that. Surely the Warriors know that, too. Right?


I think the only way that makes sense is if JK refuses to play ball on a sign and trade and just signs a contract with the Nets for $30-35 mill per. Now instead of letting him leave for nothing, you match it, then wait until December 15 when you can trade him.

On the court like you said it's a terrible fit, but I'd rather do that then just let JK leave for nothing. It's like what the Suns did matching DeAndre Ayton even though he didn't want to be there, they didn't want him there, and they ended up flipping him for Jusuf Nurkic (oops).


DeAndre still was starter center and showed "some stats". In our case we would match 30-35mln contract and Kerr would rot him on the bench...What kind of value do you get from that contract? Everybody knows that Kimunga cant play for small stints, he is rythm player. This contract would become negative very fast...To get something useful you would need to attach picks, but this is totally catashrope...

Nets will pay Kuminga looking at free agents list this summer, no doubt here. And GSW doesnt have good exit from this situation - all 3 options are bad. Kuminga saved his ass in last 4 games and put GSW in very questionable position.
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Post#32 » by Onus » Thu May 15, 2025 1:33 pm

I bet Lacob watched the last 4 games and was like I want to keep JK.
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Post#33 » by Jester_ » Thu May 15, 2025 1:47 pm

whatisacenter wrote:Steph, Jimmy and Draymond are going to be old AF next season…good luck putting a good enough supporting roster together with how much of the salary cap they take up.

Keeping all 3 will be a mistake.


they already had a good enough supporting roster this year
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Post#34 » by NeoWarriors » Thu May 15, 2025 2:06 pm

Free agency question. Would we be able to re-sign Melton? Are there rules that would prevent this?

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Post#35 » by Impuniti » Thu May 15, 2025 2:10 pm

- Bring Melton back on the vet min.
- If Melton is back to his old self, Kerr can either start or find another club if he wants to force Podz as a starter.
- No more braindead 4 guard lineups, 3 should happen extremely rarely.
- Resign Looney to 5m/year, 2 year deal.
- Tell GP to **** off.
- S&T Cam for JK. If they keep JK next season despite not fitting with the team, I'm gonna be watching less of them. Tired of that idiot upstairs constantly getting involved in team construction decision.
- Moody & pick for a SF backup or Steven Adams.

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You have the flexibility to put Jimmy at the 3 when Cam sits and bring a guard next to Steph. Ideally would want 1 more wing, but this is still a big improvement. Knowing Kerr, he would probably bench Adams and start Podz in that lineup somehow, making everything small just to show everyone how smart he is.
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Post#36 » by Impuniti » Thu May 15, 2025 2:11 pm

Onus wrote:I bet Lacob watched the last 4 games and was like I want to keep JK.

100%. Nothing more annoying an idiot, over-involved owner who thinks he's smarter than he is. :banghead:
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Post#37 » by cpower » Thu May 15, 2025 2:14 pm

SpreeS wrote:
xfactor99 wrote:
Romulus wrote:I'm actually seeing people -- including sports writers -- say Warriors should sign JK to a large contract (obviously) and keep him. Really?

Here's the truth: If you bring JK back, you have to fire Steve Kerr. Why? Kerr has proven he won't play him, especially in the playoffs. The only reason JK played in this series was because Steph got hurt and Kerr was desperate for offense. Otherwise, he likely wouldn't have played a minute. JK and Kerr just don't work together.

We all know Kerr is coaching this team as long as Curry is here (his stated goal). So Kerr is staying. JK should be in a sign and trade and get what you can get for him. It's unfair to JK to hold him hostage here. Whether he turns out to be a really good NBA player? Hard to say, other than yes, he has talent. Will it translate to winning? Perhaps. Perhaps not. This team and specifically this coach is absolutely a poor fit for JK's future. Surely he knows that. Surely the Warriors know that, too. Right?


I think the only way that makes sense is if JK refuses to play ball on a sign and trade and just signs a contract with the Nets for $30-35 mill per. Now instead of letting him leave for nothing, you match it, then wait until December 15 when you can trade him.

On the court like you said it's a terrible fit, but I'd rather do that then just let JK leave for nothing. It's like what the Suns did matching DeAndre Ayton even though he didn't want to be there, they didn't want him there, and they ended up flipping him for Jusuf Nurkic (oops).


DeAndre still was starter center and showed "some stats". In our case we would match 30-35mln contract and Kerr would rot him on the bench...What kind of value do you get from that contract? Everybody knows that Kimunga cant play for small stints, he is rythm player. This contract would become negative very fast...To get something useful you would need to attach picks, but this is totally catashrope...

Nets will pay Kuminga looking at free agents list this summer, no doubt here. And GSW doesnt have good exit from this situation - all 3 options are bad. Kuminga saved his ass in last 4 games and put GSW in very questionable position.

we need to send more incentive for Nets for S/T. 1 FRP + JK and try to negotiate lower contract value would be a good start.
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Post#38 » by SpreeS » Thu May 15, 2025 2:21 pm

cpower wrote:
SpreeS wrote:
xfactor99 wrote:
I think the only way that makes sense is if JK refuses to play ball on a sign and trade and just signs a contract with the Nets for $30-35 mill per. Now instead of letting him leave for nothing, you match it, then wait until December 15 when you can trade him.

On the court like you said it's a terrible fit, but I'd rather do that then just let JK leave for nothing. It's like what the Suns did matching DeAndre Ayton even though he didn't want to be there, they didn't want him there, and they ended up flipping him for Jusuf Nurkic (oops).


DeAndre still was starter center and showed "some stats". In our case we would match 30-35mln contract and Kerr would rot him on the bench...What kind of value do you get from that contract? Everybody knows that Kimunga cant play for small stints, he is rythm player. This contract would become negative very fast...To get something useful you would need to attach picks, but this is totally catashrope...

Nets will pay Kuminga looking at free agents list this summer, no doubt here. And GSW doesnt have good exit from this situation - all 3 options are bad. Kuminga saved his ass in last 4 games and put GSW in very questionable position.

we need to send more incentive for Nets for S/T. 1 FRP + JK and try to negotiate lower contract value would be a good start.


Kuminga/Nets dont need GSW at all. Nets will get first for Cam in trade market.
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Post#39 » by Impuniti » Thu May 15, 2025 2:21 pm

SpreeS wrote:
cpower wrote:
SpreeS wrote:
DeAndre still was starter center and showed "some stats". In our case we would match 30-35mln contract and Kerr would rot him on the bench...What kind of value do you get from that contract? Everybody knows that Kimunga cant play for small stints, he is rythm player. This contract would become negative very fast...To get something useful you would need to attach picks, but this is totally catashrope...

Nets will pay Kuminga looking at free agents list this summer, no doubt here. And GSW doesnt have good exit from this situation - all 3 options are bad. Kuminga saved his ass in last 4 games and put GSW in very questionable position.

we need to send more incentive for Nets for S/T. 1 FRP + JK and try to negotiate lower contract value would be a good start.


Kuminga/Nets dont need GSW at all. Nets will get first for Cam in trade market.

Isn't he a restricted FA?
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Post#40 » by Ilovethebay » Thu May 15, 2025 2:24 pm

Lot of hopium going on in this thread. Why on earth would Brooklyn give up a really cost-effective uber efficient Cam Johnson for Kuminga? Brooklyn is looking to land a whale so you better believe Cam Johnson is going to be in that package.

With Brooklyn the best you can hope for is a TPE coming back for Kuminga and even that seems unlikely.

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