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Post#41 » by HiRez » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:48 am

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GunnerWRX wrote:So GP2 can't wear #0 anymore since DDV has it right now.

Players should pick some weird number like 74, you'll never have to change it. I never understood the obsession with numbers 50 and under.

It has to do with the number of fingers on both your hands. Presumably. I've never seen your hands. Most players have numbers that a ref can easily signal on their two hands, but clearly it isn't a hard and fast rule.

That's an interesting point, but if it's used for refs to identify you for foul calls, complicate the hell out of it. 99 sounds good.
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Post#42 » by floppymoose » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:55 am

GunnerWRX wrote:So GP2 can't wear #0 anymore since DDV has it right now.


Double zero…
Oh wait….

TRIPLE zero. That way he cant get a foul called on him.
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Post#43 » by Chris Porter's Hair » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:57 am

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HiRez wrote:Players should pick some weird number like 74, you'll never have to change it. I never understood the obsession with numbers 50 and under.

It has to do with the number of fingers on both your hands. Presumably. I've never seen your hands. Most players have numbers that a ref can easily signal on their two hands, but clearly it isn't a hard and fast rule.

That's an interesting point, but if it's used for refs to identify you for foul calls, complicate the hell out of it. 99 sounds good.

Heh... it is also a bit wonky because 7 presumably looks like either 25 or 52. I always guessed that it is usually not ambiguous with only 5 guys on the floor. And hard to use to your advantage; if you numbered your players 7, 25, 52, who is to say you'd end up getting fouls called on the "right" guy by accident instead of the "wrong" guy heh

I want to see GP2 be the first 000. If they can fit Gilgeous-Alexander on the back of a jersey, they oughta be able to squeeze in a 3rd digit.
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Post#44 » by marthafokker » Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:49 am

Kerr got his 6'2" center!

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Post#45 » by azwfan » Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:22 am

Ill say this much, if our defense still sucks, then the core has no more excuses.

GP2, DDV, Dray, Wiggins, Loon… *should* be able to lock teams up. If Klay and Steph can be solid, Poole is the only weak defender in the rotation.
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Post#46 » by Samurai » Fri Feb 10, 2023 3:29 am

Happy to have GP2 back if he can stay healthy. Unfortunately this will likely be the only season that we will have the luxury of having both GP2 and DDV together. DDV will very likely decline his $4.7M option and the most we can offer him is around $7M. With his 41% shooting so far on 3's (certainly better than I was expecting from him), pretty sure some team(s) will offer him more than that. And sadly that outside shooting is one area where GP2 is unlikely to be able to compensate for DDV's loss.

But for this season at least, defense is the area where most people (fans and pundits) have identified as a glaring need so if adding GP2 doesn't solve that deficiency then Kerr will have to go back to the drawing board and let Myers and Lacob know that he is punting this season. But hey, if the end result is the team replaces Wiseman with Wemby, I don't think too many tears will be shed!
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Post#47 » by ILOVEIT » Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:07 am

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TB wrote:Love having GP2 back.

And also pretty awful that the #2 pick ended up getting us... literally nothing. We drafted him, then 3 years later he's gone for nothing. Just an awful pick lol

So... you're glad we got Payton, and sad we got nothing. How does that work?

Wiseman for Payton (with some financial benefits). Not horrible, given how things transpired. A bit disappointing. I still won't be surprised if Wiseman ends up being much more valuable than that, but it will likely take some time, and I can understand trading him for a benefit in the present.


Yup agreed. All I was saying is that I'm happy we pulled the plug on the Wiseman experiment by bringing back a player that was great on our team. But also acknowledging just how awful the wiseman experience was. Hope he has a good career in Detroit.


Let's give credit where credit is due. This trade hightlights two Bob blunders.

Drafting a 7' 19 year old project and hoping he contributes to a Vet team that needs help NOW. There were many on the board wanting a third year solid type player to go with the Curry timeline. Wiseman pick is very much like the Kinds Bagley pick. Bad move.
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Post#48 » by WarriorGM » Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:49 am

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Chris Porter's Hair wrote:So... you're glad we got Payton, and sad we got nothing. How does that work?

Wiseman for Payton (with some financial benefits). Not horrible, given how things transpired. A bit disappointing. I still won't be surprised if Wiseman ends up being much more valuable than that, but it will likely take some time, and I can understand trading him for a benefit in the present.


Yup agreed. All I was saying is that I'm happy we pulled the plug on the Wiseman experiment by bringing back a player that was great on our team. But also acknowledging just how awful the wiseman experience was. Hope he has a good career in Detroit.


Let's give credit where credit is due. This trade hightlights two Bob blunders.

Drafting a 7' 19 year old project and hoping he contributes to a Vet team that needs help NOW. There were many on the board wanting a third year solid type player to go with the Curry timeline. Wiseman pick is very much like the Kinds Bagley pick. Bad move.
Not re-signing GP2 in the first place.


Cannot fault the not re-signing GP2. He's barely played for the Trail Blazers. My only question is with the Wiseman trade do the Warriors save any money by taking GP2 on now?
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Post#49 » by xdrta+ » Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:34 am

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ILOVEIT wrote:
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Yup agreed. All I was saying is that I'm happy we pulled the plug on the Wiseman experiment by bringing back a player that was great on our team. But also acknowledging just how awful the wiseman experience was. Hope he has a good career in Detroit.


Let's give credit where credit is due. This trade hightlights two Bob blunders.

Drafting a 7' 19 year old project and hoping he contributes to a Vet team that needs help NOW. There were many on the board wanting a third year solid type player to go with the Curry timeline. Wiseman pick is very much like the Kinds Bagley pick. Bad move.
Not re-signing GP2 in the first place.


Cannot fault the not re-signing GP2. He's barely played for the Trail Blazers. My only question is with the Wiseman trade do the Warriors save any money by taking GP2 on now?


Payton's salary is about $1.3M less than Wiseman's, so they'll knock about $8M off this year's tax bill.
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Post#51 » by SpreeS » Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:41 am

GP2 and DDV are playing way bigger than they are

GP2 10.8 TRB% 2022
DDV 9.6 TRB% 2023

These two will help to improve Green and Looney rebounding too, b/c they won't be so many time out of possition to help bad defender. Payton will eat Jerome/Lamb minutes and this is huge improvment on def ends. Also he will bring more balanced offence, b/c he one of the best finisher at the rim. We are too heavy on 3P shooting.

So DDV and Kuminga must to replace OPJ production and I hope they will do it.
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Post#52 » by DevinVassell » Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:05 pm

SpreeS wrote:GP2 and DDV are playing way bigger than they are

GP2 10.8 TRB% 2022
DDV 9.6 TRB% 2023

These two will help to improve Green and Looney rebounding too, b/c they won't be so many time out of possition to help bad defender. Payton will eat Jerome/Lamb minutes and this is huge improvment on def ends. Also he will bring more balanced offence, b/c he one of the best finisher at the rim. We are too heavy on 3P shooting.

So DDV and Kuminga must to replace OPJ production and I hope they will do it.


I guess so. If we are looking for silver linings... they are both good rebounders for their positions.

But a big that could also protect the interior and stop our constant layup line would have been nice. Got a feeling our interior defense will be fun to watch for the rest of the season despite the GPII add. Feels like we need to bring Don Nelson back... but maybe Kerr has it under control.
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Post#53 » by Jerry Maine » Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:34 pm

Perimeter defense impacts at the rim defense.

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Post#54 » by Sleepy51 » Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:52 pm

___ PG
GPII
Wiggins/Kuminga
Draymond
Looney

We have the defensive lineup to get a stop against just about anyone and still protect our point guard.

Our offense/defense subs in close games should be epic from here on in. Hopefully Kerr stops burning timeouts by letting g Dray call for challenges we aren’t gonna win.
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Post#55 » by Onus » Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:57 pm

Now that gp2 is back what role does Kuminga have on the team now that GP2 is the better poa defender?
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Post#56 » by Jerry Maine » Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:59 pm

Sleepy51 wrote:___ PG
GPII
Wiggins/Kuminga
Draymond
Looney

We have the defensive lineup to get a stop against just about anyone and still protect our point guard.

Our offense/defense subs in close games should be epic from here on in. Hopefully Kerr stops burning timeouts by letting g Dray call for challenges we aren’t gonna win.


Insightful

Got someone to throw at virtually anyone

Might not be enough, but anytime you got Steph and a decent supporting cast you're in with a sniff. Even Poole, who's deficiencies are noted, can give us a spark if required like last season.

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Post#57 » by Sleepy51 » Fri Feb 10, 2023 3:50 pm

Onus wrote:Now that gp2 is back what role does Kuminga have on the team now that GP2 is the better poa defender?


Big wing, which is what we would have been trading for with OG. Instead we ended up with both a POA defender and a big wing defender.

He will have to improve his off ball approach, but this probably puts him into rebounding position more often.
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Post#58 » by michaelm » Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:03 pm

Sleepy51 wrote:___ PG
GPII
Wiggins/Kuminga
Draymond
Looney

We have the defensive lineup to get a stop against just about anyone and still protect our point guard.

Our offense/defense subs in close games should be epic from here on in. Hopefully Kerr stops burning timeouts by letting g Dray call for challenges we aren’t gonna win.

There is a guy called Kevin Durant.
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Post#59 » by Onus » Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:09 pm

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Onus wrote:Now that gp2 is back what role does Kuminga have on the team now that GP2 is the better poa defender?


Big wing, which is what we would have been trading for with OG. Instead we ended up with both a POA defender and a big wing defender.

He will have to improve his off ball approach, but this probably puts him into rebounding position more often.

Let's hope he can adapt to this new role
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Post#60 » by Crazy-Canuck » Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:20 pm

Onus wrote:
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Onus wrote:Now that gp2 is back what role does Kuminga have on the team now that GP2 is the better poa defender?


Big wing, which is what we would have been trading for with OG. Instead we ended up with both a POA defender and a big wing defender.

He will have to improve his off ball approach, but this probably puts him into rebounding position more often.

Let's hope he can adapt to this new role



If he could rebound, he could be entrenched as the back up 4. Gp2 is just going to eat most of jks perimeter minutes.

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