superunknown wrote: Warriors Analyst wrote:
TJ warren so far hasn't proved to be better than wiggins and Turner is a good C but he's not that edge.
I understand the wiseman brings along question marks and legit doubts (like any other player in this draft class and rookies in general), but he has the potential to develop in a player like turner if not better in few years. moreover, in that proposed trade, dubs also throw in paschall who is a decent contributor form the bench (who can still improve) in a roster which lacks depth.
so, basically, it's a 3 for 2 where those 2 are not a big upgrade and the bench gets further depleted.
I'm a Wiggins optimist, but this take is way off. Warren is a really good player. He's way way better than Wiggins.
bubble basketball is not real basketball.
I don't remember all this hype around TJ Warren before he "exploded" in the bubble.
I'm not saying he's not a good player, just I don't see all this upgrade over wiggins.
In any case, I'd like to see TJ Warren put on those numbers in normal conditions before to conclude he's way better than wiggins.
The difference is that Warren is making 12 millions next season, Wiggins 29.
If Wiggins had TJ's contract it would be a great fit, but he doesn't so he's negative value.
I've spent the last few hours watching scouting reports and I think Wiseman and Avdija are the best players the Warriors could get. I also like Edwards and Okongwu, but they are more of a project and would need more time to become real contributors in a winning team. Edwards is a great talent, but he needs to work on his shot and defense, I wouldn't be confident in playing him in the playoff. Okongwu projects as a great defender and he would be a good fit as a small ball 5 for us, but his shot is terrible and in general he lacks offensive skills, he's not good enough for #2. I'd consider him if we trade down though, he's gonna be a really good role player.
Avdija is the most mature player in the class and it's not even close. He's a true pro, with high BBIQ and not many weaknesses in his game. He can improve as a shooter but he's not bad at all. His 1 on 1 defense will never be great, but he looks to be a good team defender. Maybe getting him at the #2 is a reach, but in a weak draft I'd rather get him than half players like Obi Toppin who is an offensive juggernaut but he's probably the worst defender I've ever seen.
Wiseman is good. He won't be ready day 1, but his talent is huge. He's probably the best choice if we don't trade the pick.
If we can trade down a couple spots and get Avdija + a good role player, it would be the best imho, otherwise just get Wiseman.
I also like LaMelo a lot, he's amazing, but it will take 2-3 years at the very least to develop his potential, so he's not a fit for this team. His passing is unbelievable though, he will be fun to watch.