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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?) 

Post#1661 » by Mob Byers » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:06 pm

whatisacenter wrote:Sound like there may be a few teams interested in Oubre in the Knicks, Heat and Spurs. I need to look over some of their rosters to see who might be a good S&T fit for the Warriors taking back a player under contract.
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/262903/Heat-Spurs-Knicks-Interested-In-Kelly-Oubre


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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?) 

Post#1662 » by Scoots1994 » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:59 pm

whatisacenter wrote:Sound like there may be a few teams interested in Oubre in the Knicks, Heat and Spurs. I need to look over some of their rosters to see who might be a good S&T fit for the Warriors taking back a player under contract.
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/262903/Heat-Spurs-Knicks-Interested-In-Kelly-Oubre


The two I heard that were interesting and kind of work for both teams were:

Oubre to Heat for Herro and Iguodala (Heat are supposedly really tired of Herro's lack of effort and there were some rumors of some bad social/health habits)

Oubre to Celtics for Smart and Thompson, Celtics get younger Warriors get marginally useful size (rebounding and screens) and a past his prime Smart who has never been much of a playmaker or shooter with 2 years left on his deal.

The reality is that the Warriors won't S&T Oubre without bringing back assets that ACTUALLY work for the team, otherwise they will just let him walk. I don't see any trades where they get much back in the form of draft picks.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?) 

Post#1664 » by Scoots1994 » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:54 pm



It's a good thing he doesn't need to do anything where he needs to raise his hands over his head for his work.

Recovery to fully healthy in NBA bigs with torn shoulder labrums is a lot longer than 5 months. 5 months until he can get back with the team, but getting to the point where he dunks with it, or uses it to try to block shots or reach for a steal or put leverage on a driving player? That could be a lot longer.
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Post#1665 » by wco81 » Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:12 pm

Back surgery for Ibaka
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Post#1666 » by Scoots1994 » Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:44 pm

wco81 wrote:Back surgery for Ibaka


Surprised it took this long.
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Post#1667 » by marthafokker » Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:25 am

Thank goodness for the end of stupid trade the bank ideas for overpaid Siakam from Toronto fans coming to this board.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?) 

Post#1668 » by ChuckDurn » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:00 am

Scoots1994 wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:Sound like there may be a few teams interested in Oubre in the Knicks, Heat and Spurs. I need to look over some of their rosters to see who might be a good S&T fit for the Warriors taking back a player under contract.
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/262903/Heat-Spurs-Knicks-Interested-In-Kelly-Oubre


The two I heard that were interesting and kind of work for both teams were:

Oubre to Heat for Herro and Iguodala (Heat are supposedly really tired of Herro's lack of effort and there were some rumors of some bad social/health habits)

Oubre to Celtics for Smart and Thompson, Celtics get younger Warriors get marginally useful size (rebounding and screens) and a past his prime Smart who has never been much of a playmaker or shooter with 2 years left on his deal.

The reality is that the Warriors won't S&T Oubre without bringing back assets that ACTUALLY work for the team, otherwise they will just let him walk. I don't see any trades where they get much back in the form of draft picks.

I’ve seen mention of those 2 “rumors” elsewhere, but would be stunned if either of those packages is available for Oubre. For Miami, which has cap space, it means they literally are just trying to dump Herro’s salary (and Iguodala), which would be stunning. ANd for the Celtics, I’ve got to believe that a package of Smart and Thompson would net way more than just Oubre.

I don’t put much stock into either of those rumors.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?) 

Post#1669 » by whatisacenter » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:04 am

ChuckDurn wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:Sound like there may be a few teams interested in Oubre in the Knicks, Heat and Spurs. I need to look over some of their rosters to see who might be a good S&T fit for the Warriors taking back a player under contract.
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/262903/Heat-Spurs-Knicks-Interested-In-Kelly-Oubre


The two I heard that were interesting and kind of work for both teams were:

Oubre to Heat for Herro and Iguodala (Heat are supposedly really tired of Herro's lack of effort and there were some rumors of some bad social/health habits)

Oubre to Celtics for Smart and Thompson, Celtics get younger Warriors get marginally useful size (rebounding and screens) and a past his prime Smart who has never been much of a playmaker or shooter with 2 years left on his deal.

The reality is that the Warriors won't S&T Oubre without bringing back assets that ACTUALLY work for the team, otherwise they will just let him walk. I don't see any trades where they get much back in the form of draft picks.

I’ve seen mention of those 2 “rumors” elsewhere, but would be stunned if either of those packages is available for Oubre. For Miami, which has cap space, it means they literally are just trying to dump Herro’s salary (and Iguodala), which would be stunning. ANd for the Celtics, I’ve got to believe that a package of Smart and Thompson would net way more than just Oubre.

I don’t put much stock into either of those rumors.


I agree, especially the Marcus Smart rumor, he alone is better than Oubre before adding in TT. No way Boston would offer that package.
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Post#1670 » by GSWFan1994 » Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:45 pm



Between this and Lowry potentially going to a contender, Toronto is going to tank HARD next season.

And they need to. Their next 2 picks would be much needed to retool their roster around Anunoby & Trent Jr (& Siakam, VanVleet and perhaps Boucher as well).
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Post#1671 » by Quazza » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:49 am

Miami wouldn't include Herro in a deal for Harden. Do we really think they've soured so much on him that they'd trade him for Oubre ?

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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?) 

Post#1672 » by Scoots1994 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:57 pm

Quazza wrote:Miami wouldn't include Herro in a deal for Harden. Do we really think they've soured so much on him that they'd trade him for Oubre ?

Surely not


It's not likely, I think it's mostly based on supposedly Butler in particular, coaches, and the front office are close to giving up on him.
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Post#1673 » by gobullschi » Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:12 am

Kelly Oubre (S&T) for Thaddeus Young & 2 future 2nd Round Picks


Stephen Curry / Nico Mannion
Klay Thompson / (#14)
Andrew Wiggins / (#6)
Draymond Green / Thaddeus Young
James Wiseman / Kevon Looney
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Post#1674 » by FNQ » Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:33 am

gobullschi wrote:Kelly Oubre (S&T) for Thaddeus Young & 2 future 2nd Round Picks


Stephen Curry / Nico Mannion
Klay Thompson / (#14)
Andrew Wiggins / (#6)
Draymond Green / Thaddeus Young
James Wiseman / Kevon Looney


With absolutely no hesitation
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?) 

Post#1675 » by Scoots1994 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:57 pm

gobullschi wrote:Kelly Oubre (S&T) for Thaddeus Young & 2 future 2nd Round Picks


Stephen Curry / Nico Mannion
Klay Thompson / (#14)
Andrew Wiggins / (#6)
Draymond Green / Thaddeus Young
James Wiseman / Kevon Looney


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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?) 

Post#1676 » by Mob Byers » Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:14 pm

gobullschi wrote:Kelly Oubre (S&T) for Thaddeus Young & 2 future 2nd Round Picks


Stephen Curry / Nico Mannion
Klay Thompson / (#14)
Andrew Wiggins / (#6)
Draymond Green / Thaddeus Young
James Wiseman / Kevon Looney


I do this even without the 2nds
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?) 

Post#1677 » by gobullschi » Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:58 pm

Mob Byers wrote:
gobullschi wrote:Kelly Oubre (S&T) for Thaddeus Young & 2 future 2nd Round Picks


Stephen Curry / Nico Mannion
Klay Thompson / (#14)
Andrew Wiggins / (#6)
Draymond Green / Thaddeus Young
James Wiseman / Kevon Looney


I do this even without the 2nds


So there is no concern with luxury tax?
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?) 

Post#1678 » by xdrta+ » Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:41 pm

gobullschi wrote:
Mob Byers wrote:
gobullschi wrote:Kelly Oubre (S&T) for Thaddeus Young & 2 future 2nd Round Picks


Stephen Curry / Nico Mannion
Klay Thompson / (#14)
Andrew Wiggins / (#6)
Draymond Green / Thaddeus Young
James Wiseman / Kevon Looney


I do this even without the 2nds


So there is no concern with luxury tax?


Not from me.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?) 

Post#1679 » by Scoots1994 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:03 pm

gobullschi wrote:
Mob Byers wrote:
gobullschi wrote:Kelly Oubre (S&T) for Thaddeus Young & 2 future 2nd Round Picks


Stephen Curry / Nico Mannion
Klay Thompson / (#14)
Andrew Wiggins / (#6)
Draymond Green / Thaddeus Young
James Wiseman / Kevon Looney


I do this even without the 2nds


So there is no concern with luxury tax?


Not my money. If the joint sells out and they go deep in the playoffs it will make money.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?) 

Post#1680 » by gobullschi » Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:28 pm

xdrta+ wrote:
gobullschi wrote:
Mob Byers wrote:
I do this even without the 2nds


So there is no concern with luxury tax?


Not from me.


As a fan or based on something tangible?

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